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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Faux Socialist

Mason66 said:
Why would anybody have a problem with seeing another person with the fruits of their labor?
Can you explain why anybody would?
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Yet those same people are here having a problem with her clothes. Not once have I heard any of you calling out a Republican for wearing an expensive suit, which they all do.

DarkWizard12 said:
Sounds like she's the one with the agenda. If she is a democratic socialist, then why is it that everything she supports is state capitalism?
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State capitalism

Political ideology



State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes commercial economic activity and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned business enterprises,
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She has not advocated that the state owns all businesses, or anything even remotely related to that, so unless you've got some quotes to back that up that's complete nonsense.
 
She borrowed expensive clothes for a photo shoot and therefore is bad for working class people.

This is the right wing mind.
 
Deuce said:
She borrowed expensive clothes for a photo shoot and therefore is bad for working class people.
This is the right wing mind.
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Poor people who see their whining will surely change their political beliefs and start supporting a party that absolutely loathes them, I'm sure of it.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Yet those same people are here having a problem with her clothes. Not once have I heard any of you calling out a Republican for wearing an expensive suit, which they all do.




She has not advocated that the state owns all businesses, or anything even remotely related to that, so unless you've got some quotes to back that up that's complete nonsense.
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You really should understand the point of the thread before you spout off about rich people.
 
Mason66 said:
You really should understand the point of the thread before you spout off about rich people.
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Can you explain the point of this thread? Because I sure ****in can't.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Conservatives worship rich people and have no problem seeing millionaires and billionaires with planes, gold plated watches, ridiculous houses and so on because it's all "signs of their success". You're criticizing her because you have an agenda. She's not a socialist, she supports Democratic Socialism. If you're trying to pretend that most of Europe is the same as USSR style Stalinist socialism, you're not being honest. Nothing about it means there won't be rich and poor or that the state owns everything.

So really, when's the last time you've criticized a Republican for wearing nice clothes? Be specific.
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Your basic problem is that you don't have a valid premise. "Conservatives worship rich people"? Where did you find that tidbit? MSNBC?
 
smallvoice said:
Your basic problem is that you don't have a valid premise. "Conservatives worship rich people"? Where did you find that tidbit? MSNBC?
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They prefer the term "job creators."
 
Deuce said:
Can you explain the point of this thread? Because I sure ****in can't.
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That is not surprising.

I assume you can read. The OP is clear.
 
Mason66 said:
That is not surprising.

I assume you can read. The OP is clear.
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It's stupid enough for me to question the clarity. Surely, I thought, nobody is dumb enough to draw the conclusion they appear to be drawing. Therefore there's probably a point I'm missing.

Are you saying it really is that stupid?
 
Deuce said:
It's stupid enough for me to question the clarity. Surely, I thought, nobody is dumb enough to draw the conclusion they appear to be drawing. Therefore there's probably a point I'm missing.

Are you saying it really is that stupid?
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What point do you think it is making?
 
Mason66 said:
What point do you think it is making?
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That Ocasio-Cortez:

1) Wants all wealth distributed to her. The evidence for this is "she once wore expensive clothes."

2) She doesn't care about working class Americans. The evidence for this is "she once wore expensive clothes."

And apparently 100% of the population of Westchester is rich. As a person who has spent a lot of time there, I find this to be laughable.
 
JasperL said:
You literally said it: "people give you money and expensive clothes." If I give you my car, that's different than loaning you my car or letting you use my car to move furniture or to drive to the store, after which you return the car to me.

Again, by your standard, every person elected or who seeks election is an elitist or wannabe, so there is no one who will or can meet your purity test for public office, and no one who can legitimately claim to represent the common man. So she can only promote "equality" by being forever poor and NOT seeking public office, because by becoming not-poor, which she'll do if elected, she's a member of the elite, and therefore, apparently, can only advocate for other elites!
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Semantics. Give means to hand over, whether ownership changes or not. And yeah, ALL polticians are the elite class. But AOC is running on a platform of equality while taking advantage of her privileged. Capitalists dont.
 
jonny5 said:
Semantics. Give means to hand over, whether ownership changes or not.
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The general and well understood meaning of "give her clothes and money" is that they were gifts, transfers of ownership, not temporary loans for the purpose of a photo shoot, after which the clothes (and the money no one alleges was exchanged) are returned.

And yeah, ALL polticians are the elite class. But AOC is running on a platform of equality while taking advantage of her privileged. Capitalists dont.
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OK, then you've established a purity bar that no one can meet. And her platform isn't as simple as "equality" because that would imply everyone makes the same, lives in equivalent housing, drives equivalent cars, etc. which she hasn't supported in any way. So you're misrepresenting her platform to erect a straw man.

As to capitalists not taking advantage of privilege, you have to be joking. :roll:
 
apdst said:
He eas 4F because of his hearing.
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Wrong yet again, his hearing was fine. He did seek and get a 3-A deferment at a time when many other older married men were drafted.

He was a coward and punk who could easily have served like Reagan in a PR/Propaganda unit but he was just starting to get movie roles and saw his success as more important than serving the nation when millions of Americans did....

I have nothing but respect for Jimmy Stewart and nothing but contempt for Marion... :peace
 
JasperL said:
The general and well understood meaning of "give her clothes and money" is that they were gifts, transfers of ownership, not temporary loans for the purpose of a photo shoot, after which the clothes (and the money no one alleges was exchanged) are returned.



OK, then you've established a purity bar that no one can meet. And her platform isn't as simple as "equality" because that would imply everyone makes the same, lives in equivalent housing, drives equivalent cars, etc. which she hasn't supported in any way. So you're misrepresenting her platform to erect a straw man.

As to capitalists not taking advantage of privilege, you have to be joking. :roll:
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You have intentional reading comprehension issues. Am Im tired of it. So Ill just ignore you from now on.
 
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