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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Faux Socialist

Infowars doesn't "inform" anyone of anything. In fact, you are more likely to stay ignorant by reading stuff on Infowars than you are otherwise.

You are totally unwilling to look at the actual article, which is short, to see for yourself if there are facts presented or not. Yet instead of addressing the subject you choose to express your bias by criticizing the source with no knowledge of the content, which is inane to me, so there in no need for further discussion between us.
 
The Republicans came into this because we were discussing Palin's expensive outfits during the 2008 presidential campaign which didn't seem to bother you. I understand conservatives need to vilify democrats. In this particular case, I'm just not buying it. If O.C.'s constituents have a problem with the way she dresses they'll let her know.

Was Palin campaigning on 'helping the poor'? I must have missed that.

I do believe people should walk the walk... regardless of political lean. You want to campaign on helping the poor, you don't drive up in a Maserati. You want to AK the rich? You don't drive up in a 1990's beater. You want to hype Climate Change? You don't live in a house that burns fossil fuels to beat the band.

Conservatives vilify liberals, liberals vilify conservatives... SOSDD.
 
Was Palin campaigning on 'helping the poor'? I must have missed that.

I do believe people should walk the walk... regardless of political lean. You want to campaign on helping the poor, you don't drive up in a Maserati. You want to AK the rich? You don't drive up in a 1990's beater. You want to hype Climate Change? You don't live in a house that burns fossil fuels to beat the band.

Conservatives vilify liberals, liberals vilify conservatives... SOSDD.

If conservatives scream loudly enough about O.C.'s wardrobe they might cause her approval to drop a tenth of a point. As I said earlier, if her prospective constituents have a problem with they way she dresses they'll let her know. Liberals point out trump's constant lying and guilty behavior and his approval rating still hovers around the high 30's regardless.

If conservatives feel that pointing and screaming at O.C.'s clothes is going to make a difference in her degree of support, go for it. It's still a free country.
 
Once again she shows what her view of socialism is and it all starts with the wealth being distributed to her.

She did a photo op with construction workers to show she is a champion the poor.. all while wearing a $1990 Gabriela Hearst blazer, $890 Gabriela Hearst pants and $625 Monolo Blahnik shoes.

If you remember she also claimed in the past working class girl from the Bronx yet she mostly grew up in wealthy Westchester County. She actually grew up middle class and her architect father sent her to Boston University to study economics and international relations.

It's claimed that she also showed her support for the working class when was a barmaid and took all $500 of the tips after a holiday night at the bar, leaving the waitresses with only $50.

The article above has a photo of her and the construction worker and bit more:

https://www.infowars.com/socialist-...utfit-for-photo-op-with-construction-workers/

Yeah, I know, but the source...... So here is the same photo and another in her own tweet in which she states "The way we make sure ALL work is dignified is by ensuring all people can meet their needs working 40 hours a week." Looks like she is meeting her needs quite well.

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https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1037727947505971200/photo/1

She's a real socialist. Socialism is for everyone but the socialists.
 
Conservatives worship rich people and have no problem seeing millionaires and billionaires with planes, gold plated watches, ridiculous houses and so on because it's all "signs of their success". You're criticizing her because you have an agenda. She's not a socialist, she supports Democratic Socialism. If you're trying to pretend that most of Europe is the same as USSR style Stalinist socialism, you're not being honest. Nothing about it means there won't be rich and poor or that the state owns everything.

So really, when's the last time you've criticized a Republican for wearing nice clothes? Be specific.

She's a damn communist. She should be exposed.
 
The Republicans came into this because we were discussing Palin's expensive outfits during the 2008 presidential campaign which didn't seem to bother you. I understand conservatives need to vilify democrats. In this particular case, I'm just not buying it. If O.C.'s constituents have a problem with the way she dresses they'll let her know.

We want to vilify communists.
 
We want to vilify communists.

Really? Then why doesn't it concern you when trump metaphorically drops to his knees in front of putin and pleasures him in public?
 
Really? Then why doesn't it concern you when trump metaphorically drops to his knees in front of putin and pleasures him in public?

A lie is your retort? :lamo

And you people call us stupid. Incredible.
 
Ah, a Pelosi supporter. Perhaps you should look up the word 'tact'. While most politicians of either political lean have little of it, I recall Melania Trump being crucified for wearing expensive shoes to Puerto Rico after the hurricane....... the hypocrisy is astounding. And yes, I made fun of Melania for that one too.

I don't think it is an issue of tact: The idea of wearing stilettos to a hurricane torn area is just ridiculous. Why? It's impractical. It would be no different than if you had worn them going fishing. The point is, its not so much the price, it's the appropriateness of the attire. If she were attending a fundraiser for cancer patients,though the beneficiaries of the fundraiser are poor. and it was a ball room, cocktails, tuxes, gowns, etc, i.e, a high end affair, she wouldn't have been criticized. I dont think you can conflate what she did with what Cortez did.


Now then, a bone to pick with you:
Why would you assume I do not know what the word "tact" means? What does Pelosi have to do with it?
How do you know what most politicians have in the way of tact?

In other words, try a little harder at not being sloppy in your comments. .
 
She's a damn communist. She should be exposed.

And yet she's not a communist...Clearly you have no clue of the meaning.
 
A lie is your retort? :lamo

And you people call us stupid. Incredible.

I mean for those of us who watched what will now forever be referred to as, "Trump's Stinky in Helsinki" trump really gave putin the "full throat" treatment!
 
You are totally unwilling to look at the actual article, which is short, to see for yourself if there are facts presented or not. Yet instead of addressing the subject you choose to express your bias by criticizing the source with no knowledge of the content, which is inane to me, so there in no need for further discussion between us.

You expect people to take your claims seriously when you use a totally and utterly dishonest and disreputable source. I already know all about Infowars; there is no reason to oblige your insistence that I give them the benefit of the doubt that they aren't just continually lying like they always do.

Yes, I bet facts are "inane" to you. After all, you use Infowars as a source.
 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Faux Socialist
Poisoning the Well

"Faux socialist" or "socialist"...I don't care what label others append to her. Indeed, even bothering to present that label, fiven the baggage it the term "socialist" carries, seems inflammatory trollish to me.

I care what policy positions she advances. I can evaluate them on my own and never need to worry about whether she or anyone else calls her a socialist, or something else for that matter.
 
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"Faux socialist" or "socialist"...I don't care what label others append to her. I care what policy positions she advances.

She commented that NY landlords with vacant units should allow the homeless to live in their units, free.

Bet she can count on the landlords vote....
 
I don't think it is an issue of tact: The idea of wearing stilettos to a hurricane torn area is just ridiculous. Why? It's impractical. It would be no different than if you had worn them going fishing. The point is, its not so much the price, it's the appropriateness of the attire. If she were attending a fundraiser for cancer patients,though the beneficiaries of the fundraiser are poor. and it was a ball room, cocktails, tuxes, gowns, etc, i.e, a high end affair, she wouldn't have been criticized. I dont think you can conflate what she did with what Cortez did.


Now then, a bone to pick with you:
Why would you assume I do not know what the word "tact" means? What does Pelosi have to do with it?
How do you know what most politicians have in the way of tact?

In other words, try a little harder at not being sloppy in your comments. .

Oh my, not only lacking in any way an understanding of satire, but an attempt to educate also. Brilliant!

Pelosi dropped into it via another poster, regarding what she spent on wardrobe.

I've been around, and seen in action, any number of politicians through out my life. Trump is likely one of the most tactless people I've seen yet, but there are any number of close runners up, from both sides.

Tact: adroitness and sensitivity in dealing with others or with difficult issues.

Republicans carefully listen to the issue, and then tell people what they think they want to hear. Democrats create the issue, then tell people how they are going to fix the problem, regardless of what anyone else believes. How sad that this country is run on a duopoly. But I will say this, Socialism, even 'Democratic Socialism' isn't that far different from what many are complaining about now, and several comments on this board prove it.
 
You expect people to take your claims seriously when you use a totally and utterly dishonest and disreputable source. I already know all about Infowars; there is no reason to oblige your insistence that I give them the benefit of the doubt that they aren't just continually lying like they always do.

Yes, I bet facts are "inane" to you. After all, you use Infowars as a source.

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Oh my, not only lacking in any way an understanding of satire,
So, you're going to assess my ability to understand satire, based on a sentence which quite reasonably might not be that obvious to everyone?
but an attempt to educate also. Brilliant!
yet you are defining tact, an attempt to educate, in this comment. brilliant!
Pelosi dropped into it via another poster, regarding what she spent on wardrobe.

I've been around, and seen in action, any number of politicians through out my life. Trump is likely one of the most tactless people I've seen yet, but there are any number of close runners up, from both sides.

Tact: adroitness and sensitivity in dealing with others or with difficult issues.

Republicans carefully listen to the issue, and then tell people what they think they want to hear. Democrats create the issue, then tell people how they are going to fix the problem, regardless of what anyone else believes.
Many politicians tell people what they want to hear, some do, some don't. But I don't agree that republicans "listen carefully to the issue", and "democrats create the issue", is a vacuous claim.
How sad that this country is run on a duopoly.
Our system of government is not conducive to coalitions like a parliamentary system is.
But I will say this, Socialism, even 'Democratic Socialism' isn't that far different from what many are complaining about now, and several comments on this board prove it.

The term "socialism" is so bantered about over the last several decades that it's meaning is practically useless. And, no country more than Russia has destroyed it's meaning with the USSR, and the Nazis, neither of which were true socialist countries, they were totalitarian/authoritarian states that called themselves socialist.

republicans have totally accepted that Soviet Russia's claim of socialism as a legitimate example of what socialism is, but they do not accept their claim of being a democracy as a legitimate example of what democracy is.

That isn't logical. If we reject their claim of being a democracy, then we must also reject their claim of being a socialist state.

No matter, I don't agree that a purely socialist system is the way to go, I favor a blend of both socialism and capitalism, where we have capitalism for wants, and socialism for needs. I will define these more specifically if you want, but that's what i favor. Thing is, that is
what we have now, though I believe socialism should be extended to health care and education and strategic resources and strategic industries.

For example, capitalism does well on things like products, furniture, cosmetics, all kinds of stuff people like to buy, but it does not do so well on land and real estate, where prices are rising faster than inflation, where we are headed to a scenario where it's like it is in Hong Kong, where the average rent is 19 times greater than the average wage. It's getting so that if you are not rich, you cannot afford to live. Banks and landlords are gobbling up more and more and more of our disposable incomes. But, this subject is worthy of a book or three, cannot deal with it entirely here.
 
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I mean for those of us who watched what will now forever be referred to as, "Trump's Stinky in Helsinki" trump really gave putin the "full throat" treatment!

You just reinforced my point! :lamo
 
You just reinforced my point! :lamo

It certainly is plausible that trump has been bought off by putin. putin is, after all, the richest person in the world. I wonder if the conduit between putin an trump is one of the things Manafort will testify to?
 
You are totally unwilling to look at the actual article, which is short, to see for yourself if there are facts presented or not. Yet instead of addressing the subject you choose to express your bias by criticizing the source with no knowledge of the content, which is inane to me, so there in no need for further discussion between us.

The facts omitted is it was a photo shoot, the clothes were loaned for the photo shoot, and Ocasio-Cortez wore them for the shoot then returned them.
 
If the person, regardless of political position, makes a point of campaigning on 'helping the poor, downtrodden worker' and dresses in clothing that costs more than what that working person nets in a month, or someone who claims all sorts of damage to the environment, but has a huge, flue consuming vehicle or home. They have seriously damaged their creditability. So this young lady who supposedly is all about the poor working man, doesn't feel she needs to dress at the same level, but you don't see a conflict there?

So she should live like Ghandi??? Dress like him... :roll:

The coal miners in West Virginia didn't seem to mind The Donald dressed in a year's pay all the while claiming to be for the 'forgotten' American... :)

The desperation is strong on the conservative side... :peace
 
The facts omitted is it was a photo shoot, the clothes were loaned for the photo shoot, and Ocasio-Cortez wore them for the shoot then returned them.

Interesting, but as often asked here, can you provide a link to that information?
 
Interesting, but as often asked here, can you provide a link to that information?

Sure:

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/stat...o-shoot-clothes-get-used-to-me-slaying-lewks/

Or there are stories, like here: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/alexand...o-shoot-clothes-get-used-to-me-slaying-lewks/

And the clothes designer is mentioned by name under the photos: https://www.interviewmagazine.com/c...alexandria-ocasio-cortez-and-kerry-washington

Infowars left out that part of the images, because it would make the "photo shoot" nature of the arrangement obvious.

So it's no-doubt a paid ad by the clothes maker. They supply the clothes, get a prominent mention, in a women's magazine in an interview with Kerry Washington. So the whole thing is common as dirt. It's like criticizing a model for wearing expensive clothes on the runway or in a Vogue layout, and assuming she owns what she's wearing. Bottom line is the whole faux controversy was stupid as hell.
 
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