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More hysteria..."BIGGEST STORM EVER!"

yeah Trump told NOAA to incorrectly report their GW agenda. A few posts ago it was a cat 5 was never predicted...now same thread lefties b like the false cat 5 is trumps fault. Complete TDS. Complete.
Actually, blaming the Cat 5 possibility claims on Trump - due to NOAA predictions - never occurred to me.

But now that you mention it, you may have a point. It's his agency! :2razz:
 
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Yeah, storm surges possible up to 10 feet along much of the NC coast, and feet of rain are nothing. Prolly OK to stay at home and wait it out.

10 ft!?!? whoa....what happened to the 100 ft building swallowing storm surge? Its now what we here in NE call a fun day for kayaking. What happened.
 
Actually, blaming the Cat 5 possibility claims on Trump - due to NOAA predictions - never occurred to me.

But now that you mention it, you may have a point. It's his agency! :2razz:

yeah which lefty should he fire there for falsely claiming a cat 5?
 
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sorry you need to either pay me or bet me something substantial if youre so sure I am wrong. Again anyone here can google what I posted and see that you are simply lying.

OK, whatever. I'm not doing research to prove YOUR assertion. Sorry.
 
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10 ft!?!? whoa....what happened to the 100 ft building swallowing storm surge? Its now what we here in NE call a fun day for kayaking. What happened.

You're trolling now because no one is that dumb. A 10 foot surge, if it happens, with the torrential rain and high winds will be devastating to the affected areas.
 
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That's not true. I looked and couldn't find anyone legitimate (as opposed to whatever the hell 'globalnews.ca' is) doing more than speculating on the worst possible case scenario, which WHEN the storm was cat 4 that it could strengthen some, then winds weaken as it neared land.

The actual experts don't predict days in advance what it will be at landfall - it's all about probabilities

So what news source would you accept?

https://www.newsweek.com/expert-hur...landfall-category-5-storm-devastating-1114849

Hurricane Florence could strengthen to 'life-threatening' Category 5, as about 1.5M people evacuate | Fox News

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/09/hurricane-florence-southeast-danger/569863/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nce-strengthen-millions-ordered-evacuate.html
 
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The cost of hurricane damage increasing is not a function of the severity of the storm, but rather of the change in structures in the path. Nags Head, as an example, 50 years ago was developed with 500 ft 1 level cottages on relatively large sites.Today million + dollar multi level structures are the norm.

You didn't even try. That chart doesn't go back 50 years, you are moving the goalposts there.

There is more construction, but that's only part of the story, and not the important part.
 
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You're trolling now because no one is that dumb. A 10 foot surge, if it happens, with the torrential rain and high winds will be devastating to the affected areas.

Yeah we have ten ft surges predicted here all the time. They always turn out to be 2 to 3 ft surges. Much like our apocalytptic 6" snowstorms storms. Here in Ma lefties even cancel school now if two inches is predicted. This is no different.
 
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OK, whatever. I'm not doing research to prove YOUR assertion. Sorry.

you claimed no one predicted cat 5s. I provided you with everything you need. Were you afraid to see the facts, too lazy or did you search and realize how dumb your comment was and that I absolutely crushed it. 1 of the three is true. It was the latter that is correct btw. Thats how easy it is to tee off here for me.
 
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OK, I clicked on the first link and here's the headline: "Hurricane Florence projected path: Will Florence be upgraded to Category 5 hurricane?" And the article itself notes:

The NHC said: “After 48 hours, a slight increase in southwesterly shear could result in some weakening [from Cat4], but Florence is expected to remain an extremely dangerous hurricane when it approaches the U.S. coastline.”

I'm not going to bother with the rest when your first link is a fail. I know enough that the NHC doesn't predict landfall winds several days in advance, at best giving ranges of possibilities, and predictions for the next day or two at most.
 
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you claimed no one predicted cat 5s. I provided you with everything you need. Were you afraid to see the facts, too lazy or did you search and realize how dumb your comment was and that I absolutely crushed it. 1 of the three is true. It was the latter that is correct btw. Thats how easy it is to tee off here for me.

I just asked for a link or links demonstrating your point. I got:

:failpail:

As to what someone somewhere might have said on Monday, I don't really care. I know what the National Hurricane does NOT do which is predict the strength of a hurricane at landfall several days out, so I know the experts weren't predicting a landfall of Cat 5.
 
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sorry I dont have time to teach you how to google. If you want to lie about the search results that just proves my view of lefties is valid.

No news agency ever predicted that Florence would be a Category 5 hurricane, not one. What you read and what your mind wanted to read are two different things. What they DID say on Tuesday the hurricane was a Category 4 with sustained winds of 140 mph and gusts of 170 mph and could potentially become a Cat 5. Just so you understand how hurricanes are categorized based on wind speed. As you can clearly see from the table below, the difference between a Cat 4 and a Cat 5 is an increase of 1 mph or greater. There has only been three Cat 5 hurricanes that have struck the east coast of the US, Andrew-1992, Camille-1969 and an unnamed storm in 1930.

As everyone knows, or should know, nobody can predict what a hurricane will do with any certainty. Even the most skilled meteorologist utilizing the most sophisticated technology can only estimate where a hurricane will make landfall and how strong it will be when it does. It's smart to err on the side of caution and safety for people's lives with a big storm like this. As someone said, it's not wind damage that causes most deaths, it's water. These lowlands of N. Carolina have never been as densely populated before and this is a big consideration when evacuating large numbers of people. There was a 3.7 percent population increase in the Conway-Myrtle Beach-North Myrtle Beach metro area from July 2016 to the same time in 2017, the Census Bureau estimated.

The Myrtle Beach area gained 16,372 residents, almost 45 a day

The increase of civilian populations residing in these areas along the coast has virtually exploded in numbers in the last 20 years which puts enormous numbers of people at risk if they aren't given adequate warning of an approaching hurricane, even a Cat 2 can be deadly along the coast and evacuating the shear numbers of people takes a lot of planning and many days in advance of a big storm. Everything that the news reporting did was exactly as it should have done. Playing the 'what if?' game .... what if the storm made landfall as a Cat 2 yet nobody had been forewarned or cautioned to leave. There would be a great number of people at risk of losing their life.

Category 2 (96-110 mph): Well-constructed frame homes could sustain major roof and siding damage. Many shallowly rooted trees will be snapped or uprooted and block numerous roads. Near-total power loss is expected with outages that could last from several days to weeks.

Category 3 (111-129 mph): Well-built framed homes may incur major damage or removal of roof decking and gable ends. Many trees will be snapped or uprooted, blocking numerous roads. Electricity and water will be unavailable for several days to weeks after the storm passes.

Category 4 (130 - 156 mph): Well-built framed homes can sustain severe damage with loss of most of the roof structure and/or some exterior walls. Most trees will be snapped or uprooted and power poles downed. Fallen trees and power poles will isolate residential areas. Power outages will last weeks to possibly months. Most of the area will be uninhabitable for weeks or months.

Category 5 (157 mph or higher): A high percentage of framed homes will be destroyed, with total roof failure and wall collapse. Fallen trees and power poles will isolate residential areas. Power outages will last for weeks to possibly months. Most of the area will be uninhabitable for weeks or months.
 
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The cost of hurricanes is going up. Scientists think that will continue.

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The cost of a hurricane is entirely dependent upon it's intensity and where it makes landfall. Since the population along the coasts is ever increasing, the amount of monetary damage done by a hurricane will increase as well.
 
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OK, let's take this first one, then I'll quit because I'm tired of searching for quotes in a wall of links to try and prove someone ELSE'S point. I'm quoting from above:

"...the intensity forecast is raised from the previous one, bringing Florence close to category 5 strength tomorrow (Tuesday)," the NHC said. "Near landfall, the vertical wind shear could increase, along with the increasing likelihood of eyewall cycles. While the intensity forecast shows some weakening of the maximum winds near landfall, the wind field is expected to grow with time, which increases the storm surge and inland wind threats.

So the NHC says it might get CLOSE to (that's not to cat 5) then weaken. So your own link doesn't come close to predicting cat 5 at landfall, because it doesn't predict it even getting to cat 5 before weakening before landfall.

Another expert says it has the "potential" to reach cat 5. OK, that's gain not a prediction it will come onshore at cat 5.

Reading comprehension 101 folks.... :roll:
 
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OK, I clicked on the first link and here's the headline: "Hurricane Florence projected path: Will Florence be upgraded to Category 5 hurricane?" And the article itself notes:



I'm not going to bother with the rest when your first link is a fail. I know enough that the NHC doesn't predict landfall winds several days in advance, at best giving ranges of possibilities, and predictions for the next day or two at most.

Of course you arenxt going to embarress yourself further. I get that.
 
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meh... injecting politics into this is boring and stupid.

This hurricane is a big, bad monster and it's bearing down on Wilmington, NC. Nothing can stop it so let's just hope that the people who live in this area have taken heed and are prepared.

Here is a live radar link... Weather Street: Weather radar loop for Morehead City, NC 28557
 
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The cost of a hurricane is entirely dependent upon it's intensity and where it makes landfall. Since the population along the coasts is ever increasing, the amount of monetary damage done by a hurricane will increase as well.

The increase in the chart is over the last 20 years. While what you said is true, it's one part of the story, and not the largest or most important part.

There is more rain and more storm surge, and they account for the majority of the damage. Scientists expect that trend to continue, which means the costs will keep rising.
 
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It’s disturbing to see so many politicize a hurricane that has an enormous potential to reek havoc.
Pull together... Not everything has to be about Trump politics.
 
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