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Serena Williama meltdown

Serena's point was that a male tennis player would not be docked a game for speaking out of line to an umpire. I'm not enough of a tennis fan to know if that is true, but a number other female tennis players have supported her and her argument.

It isn’t and important to keep in mind is that Serena was on her third infraction of the match. And she didn’t just abuse the umpire once..she did it 4 times in a meltdown that went on for at least 5 minutes.
 
Maybe because:

1 - You acted like she was the first ever tennis player to display such behavior ignoring decades of male tennis players acting like douches.

2 - You called her "ghetto".

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But keep up the innocent "I just called her a poor sport!" act. :lol:

It was a black mark on the game of tennis.

Tennis and golf are country club sports that do not need to be "urbanized" with these stunts.
 
It was a black mark on the game of tennis.

Tennis and golf are country club sports that do not need to be "urbanized" with these stunts.

Bucky, please.

Somehow I know you don't think John McEnroe, or anyone else who is not female and black, is ghetto and trying to urbanize tennis with their outbursts. Your "concern" for the game is lacking in authenticity.



 
It was a black mark on the game of tennis.

Tennis and golf are country club sports that do not need to be "urbanized" with these stunts.

You like those little dog whistles I see.
 
Like Hillary, Serena did not handle losing well and either did not understand the rules or thought the rules should not apply to her.

She thought the rules should be applied equally or not at all. Many in the professional tennis world, e.g. the McEnroe's, agree with her. The umpire in question is known to lack the backbone to penalize top male players. Until he develops one he should leave the women alone.
 
When male players start getting a game penalty for saying much worse than she did, you might have a point. But they don't, and neither do you.

The issue is whether Ramos acted on the basis of sexism. So, the broader and more general focus you reference above does not provide guidance here.
 
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Notice*how she starts losing when she becomes a SJW instead of focusing on the game.

And it becomes everyone elses fault for her blowup and poor play

Thats sad but true form to modern day SJWs

it's everyone elses fault when you aren't able to focus on the tasks at hand

Jesus was a SJW, as were Ghandi, MLK, Cesar Chavez, suffragettes, abolitionists, etc.

By the way, why do people dislike about folks who are active on social justice issues? It’s one way to effect change.
 
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She thought the rules should be applied equally or not at all. Many in the professional tennis world, e.g. the McEnroe's, agree with her. The umpire in question is known to lack the backbone to penalize top male players. Until he develops one he should leave the women alone.

On the contrary, he has a record of strict enforcement against everyone including high profile male players. He penalized Djokovic for smashing his racquet at Wimbledon this year and for unsportsmanlike conduct for yelling at the French Open last year. The year before that he penalized Kyrgios for yelling at a towel boy at the French Open and penalized Murray for verbal abuse at the Olympics. They complained about being held to the code of conduct they signed up for too but, unlike Serena, they didn’t invent a vast conspiracy out of whole cloth to explain it.
 
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Notice*how she starts losing when she becomes a SJW instead of focusing on the game.

And it becomes everyone elses fault for her blowup and poor play

Thats sad but true form to modern day SJWs

it's everyone elses fault when you aren't able to focus on the tasks at hand

When Williams lost the crowd started booing the winner, Naomi Osaka, who was reduced to tears and actually started apologizing for beating Williams. Williams was able to pull herself together enough to tell the crowd to stop booing and congratulate the winner. Good for her.

Williams isn't a lot different from other top athletes who get upset when they lose a high stakes match. A pretty high strung group, I imagine.
 
She required three not one. 1) she cheated and was caught cold on video. Her coach admitted it. 2) She smashed her raquet 3) called the guy a thief.

Everything about what she got was 100% deserved. Youd have to be insane to say buh buh its cuz of men. They should teach leftists how to accept losing. They cant even handle losing a tennis match. Thats how bad it is.

Not saying she didn't. Even some guy pros admitted they've done worse and was not given a game penalty. Says something.
 
The issue is whether Ramos acted on the basis of sexism. So, the broader and more general focus you reference above does not provide guidance here.

I don't understand your comment. I'm not trying to provide any guidance. Yes, the issue is sexism. That's why I commented the way I did.
 
Jesus was a SJW, as were Ghandi, MLK, Cesar Chavez, suffragettes, abolitionists, etc.

By the way, why do people dislike about folks who are active on social justice issues? It’s one way to effect change.

Speaking only for myself, I only resent SJWs who falsify facts or issues to promote their causes.

I'm not aware that any of the people named on your list did so, although even so, there's a difference between a slight distortion once in a while, and someone who makes deception a career choice, like Louis Farrakhan.
 
The Japanese girl didn't argue with the ump. This is about how the ump--and that moron who drew that cartoon along with the idiots who are bashing Serena--handled the disagreement. Their reaction is what is racist.

I don't agree that the caricature is racist, and the cartoonist Mark Knight thus far has stood by it.

Caricature functions by emphasizing prominent features. Serena is a woman who is both large and muscular compared to other women, thus drawing her as a giant is not intrinsically racist. I assume that the enlargement of the lips is what sets most people off, but although the cartoonist exaggerated these, it's not like her lips aren't literally larger than those of other black celebrities, such as (off the top of my head) Whoopi Goldberg.
 
I don't agree that the caricature is racist, and the cartoonist Mark Knight thus far has stood by it.

Caricature functions by emphasizing prominent features. Serena is a woman who is both large and muscular compared to other women, thus drawing her as a giant is not intrinsically racist. I assume that the enlargement of the lips is what sets most people off, but although the cartoonist exaggerated these, it's not like her lips aren't literally larger than those of other black celebrities, such as (off the top of my head) Whoopi Goldberg.
And your take on the little blonde?
 
Speaking only for myself, I only resent SJWs who falsify facts or issues to promote their causes.

I'm not aware that any of the people named on your list did so, although even so, there's a difference between a slight distortion once in a while, and someone who makes deception a career choice, like Louis Farrakhan.

Didnt know he was considered a SJW. But yours was not the only post mentioning SJW in sort of a negative light. I am beginning
to think I misunderstand the term, as my entire career of 40+ years involved some sort of social justice, community organizing, etc. Can anyone out there provide a working definition for us lefties?
 
I don't understand your comment. I'm not trying to provide any guidance. Yes, the issue is sexism. That's why I commented the way I did.

But your comment is a broader focus than the more narrow issue of whether Ramos was acting on the basis of sexism.


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Not saying she didn't. Even some guy pros admitted they've done worse and was not given a game penalty. Says something.

What does it say about Ramos? After all, the dialogue is about whether Ramos’ conduct was based on sexism.


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What does it say about Ramos? After all, the dialogue is about whether Ramos’ conduct was based on sexism.


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I suspect his reaction to her dressing him down probably involved sexism. "How dare you talk to me like that, Woman!"

In that video above, John McEnroe did not get a game penalty until he destroyed a table full of stuff.
 
I suspect his reaction to her dressing him down probably involved sexism. "How dare you talk to me like that, Woman!"

In that video above, John McEnroe did not get a game penalty until he destroyed a table full of stuff.

That’s possible. I’m not denying it’s possible that sexism was a motivator for Ramos. I’m open to that possibility.

But the evidence isn’t very strong, or it’s ambiguous, in favor of sexism on behalf of Ramos, given the fact his warnings and code of conduct violations towards men has been documented.


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I suspect his reaction to her dressing him down probably involved sexism. "How dare you talk to me like that, Woman!"

In that video above, John McEnroe did not get a game penalty until he destroyed a table full of stuff.

With all respect it's 2018. You cant compare an incident from a different era

If you ever played a sport you would know that sometimes calls go in ways you don't agree with.

It's as much a part of the game as is the ball or racket.

Ms Williams was wrong and that's that.

No matter what the ref did, she was wrong, Her recourse is off the court after the match.
 
With all respect it's 2018. You cant compare an incident from a different era

If you ever played a sport you would know that sometimes calls go in ways you don't agree with.

It's as much a part of the game as is the ball or racket.

Ms Williams was wrong and that's that.

No matter what the ref did, she was wrong, Her recourse is off the court after the match.

I didn't defend her actions. I just defended her from the reaction.
 
That’s possible. I’m not denying it’s possible that sexism was a motivator for Ramos. I’m open to that possibility.

But the evidence isn’t very strong, or it’s ambiguous, in favor of sexism on behalf of Ramos, given the fact his warnings and code of conduct violations towards men has been documented.


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I'm sure someone is digging through all the tapes finding instances of "coaching" which Ramos did not call.
 
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