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What do the polls say? Will Trump win again? If not who will?

Captain America said:
Rasmussen historically leans to the right in their polling results.

538, much more credible.
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Because their methodology for measuring presidential support is so radically different that other polling organizations, you can normally take five points off the approval numbers in Rasmussen.
 
haymarket said:
Because their methodology for measuring presidential support is so radically different that other polling organizations, you can normally take five points off the approval numbers in Rasmussen.
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But it's a good "go to" for the alternate reality type folks. They need love too.
 
Captain America said:
But it's a good "go to" for the alternate reality type folks. They need love too.
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Actually what they need is a good ice water bath or a hard slam up against the wall to shock them into reality. These alternate reality right wingers border on intentional mental illness.
 
haymarket said:
Actually what they need is a good ice water bath or a hard slam up against the wall to shock them into reality. These alternate reality right wingers border on intentional mental illness.
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Yeah? Well, I hear ya.

They get a vote too. If equal is to mean equal, even those "Americans" are given an equal value.

Can't shoot 'em. Best to adapt and improvise.
 
Honestly this is one discussion that is just flat premature. There is 2018 to get through and then we might begin to have some idea about 2020.
 
Captain America said:
Yeah? Well, I hear ya.

They get a vote too. If equal is to mean equal, even those "Americans" are given an equal value.

Can't shoot 'em. Best to adapt and improvise.
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I do not disagree.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
I don't expect Trump to finish his current term.
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Lol. Boy are you in for a big disappointment. But go ahead, tell me how, exactly, you think he will be removed and why. Thanks.
 
HAVANARGILA said:
:2razz:
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Liberals polls must always inflate actual polled democrat numbers to account for expected democrat voter fraud inflation in upcoming elections. I don't expect the democrat base to fail to produce high democrat numbers through fraud and deceit this time after slipping in the last election.
 
marke said:
Liberals polls must always inflate actual polled democrat numbers to account for expected democrat voter fraud inflation in upcoming elections. I don't expect the democrat base to fail to produce high democrat numbers through fraud and deceit this time after slipping in the last election.
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Oh my God...Pot...welcome to kettle. Talk about massive projection complex.
 
Captain America said:
But it's a good "go to" for the alternate reality type folks. They need love too.
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haymarket said:
Actually what they need is a good ice water bath or a hard slam up against the wall to shock them into reality. These alternate reality right wingers border on intentional mental illness.
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From what I understand, a well functioning liberal circle jerk requires at least 3 people. Right now, you are stuck at two.
 
Fletch said:
Lol. Boy are you in for a big disappointment. But go ahead, tell me how, exactly, you think he will be removed and why. Thanks.
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TT can give you his own answer - but I agree that Trump will probably not finish his term due to resigning because of "health problems" that amazingly get worse the more and more and more he goes down in polls and we find out about his criminality and he loses congressional support.

Of course, none of those things will be admitted by Trump when he does leave office early.

I would peg the odds of that happening at a little stronger than above even right now.
 
Fletch said:
From what I understand, a well functioning liberal circle jerk requires at least 3 people. Right now, you are stuck at two.
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I will defer to your knowledge of circle jerks as I am woefully uneducated about such practices.
 
haymarket said:
Because their methodology for measuring presidential support is so radically different that other polling organizations, you can normally take five points off the approval numbers in Rasmussen.
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You must be right again.

Rasmussen predicted a Clinton win. However, they did not predict the same Blue Wave magnitude Clinton Win predicted by FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, Reuters, IPSOS or Monmouth.

Hacks!

https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/
 
haymarket said:
TT can give you his own answer - but I agree that Trump will probably not finish his term due to resigning because of "health problems" that amazingly get worse the more and more and more he goes down in polls and we find out about his criminality and he loses congressional support.

Of course, none of those things will be admitted by Trump when he does leave office early.

I would peg the odds of that happening at a little stronger than above even right now.
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Your wet dream is noted.

What will be your attitude when Pence assumes the office?

Pence makes Trump look like Abby Hoffman.
 
code1211 said:
Your wet dream is noted.

What will be your attitude when Pence assumes the office?

Pence makes Trump look like Abby Hoffman.
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If Trump illegitimately holds office because of he circumstances of his election, it stands to reason that Pence would also be illegitimate since it was the same election process.
 
code1211 said:
You must be right again.

Rasmussen predicted a Clinton win. However, they did not predict the same Blue Wave magnitude Clinton Win predicted by FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, Reuters, IPSOS or Monmouth.

Hacks!

https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/
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What does Rasmussen polling the election have to do with my point about their deviation from industry wide standard methodology when they assess a presidents popularity? They are two different things. At least everybody else other than Rasmussen treats it that way.

Astro their election results, I love how Rasmussen is traditionally the outlier and then closer and closer to election day they fall into line with the others. Who would have thunk it? ;)

And the average of the major top ten polls pegged the election finish within a half percent. Pretty amazing actually.
 
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2020 is a ways away. We don't know who Trump's primary or Democratic opponents will be. However, if he ends up running unopposed in the both the primary and the national election, then the odds of him winning a second term are quite high.
 
haymarket said:
If Trump illegitimately holds office because of he circumstances of his election, it stands to reason that Pence would also be illegitimate since it was the same election process.
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And, of course, your premise is empty.
 
haymarket said:
What does Rasmussen polling the election have to do with my point about their deviation from industry wide standard methodology when they assess a presidents popularity? They are two different things. At least everybody else other than Rasmussen treats it that way.

Astro their election results, I love how Rasmussen is traditionally the outlier and then closer and closer to election day they fall into line with the others. Who would have thunk it? ;)

And the average of the major top ten polls pegged the election finish within a half percent. Pretty amazing actually.
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The average? Interesting bit of fudge in that.

Rasmussen was more accurate than most.

The other points you try to make are not founded in fact or reality.
 
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