So you claim that my argument is a bunch of gibberish right before agreeing with what I said over and over.
I don't see a single place I agreed with you so far.
My main point remains the same, as illustrated by
my first post on this tread. For the MOST part, Presidents do
not affect economy nearly as much as most people think (no doubt because politicians, on both left and right, like to claim credit for nothing) in the short term. Only SOME Presidential actions affect economy in the short term, more often those are spending bills and during recessions or times of war. More of their policies affect economy in much longer term, often
AFTER they are long done being Presidents. Their appointments of FED officials is one example of indirect way of affecting economy.
I gave you 4 links from 4 different sources on this and there is a lot more to confirm that basic main point of view.
Again... A few policies have a direct/quick effect. Many policies unravel over a very long time. Most policies have no effect on economy at all.
As for the debt, I never said debt is not an important part of economy. I will agree with you that it IS. What I said however is that when people talk about how economy is doing, they never seem to talk about debt. None of the discussions I can find on "how economy is doing" ever talks about national debt. Can you find many (any?) articles that ask the question of how economy is doing and that talk about debt being one of the main discussion points? I could not. Mostly, people concentrate on GDP, unemployment, inflation, consumer spending, etc.
And maybe that's one reason people don't pay enough attention to DEBT.
Clearly however, as debt payments become to weigh heavily over our necks, that will eventually strangle the economy more and more.
And by the way, debt is one example in which Presidents have control over economy over a LONG period of time. Trump racks up debt by unnecessarily lowering taxes (mostly for the top 0.1%), but that does not come to haunt the economy for a while because the incremental debt payments won't hit us for a while until rates become much higher and deficit keeps adding to debt for many years to come. Obama increased debt by a lot, but at least that was used to avoid Great Depression II. Bush racked up debt - again to lower taxes and to fund unnecessary wars. Sometimes debt is good and needed. Often it's used to spend now and not worry about paying later.
All politicians love to use debt though. Because it helps fund their programs / initiatives in the shorter term and the payback will only be visible long after they are gone. So, they like to claim credit for what they did during their years while future generations are saddled with paying it off. That's why we are where we are with debt. It's the same as spending on credit cards to buy stuff you can't afford and then when the interest comes due over next 10 years, you are no longer there to pay it off.