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"Git*thar fustest with the most mostest." - N.B. Forrest


As a leader in war & peace I will show some examples, from time to time as I see fit, of the military genius of N.B. Forest greatest American calvary leader in American history


A synopsis of N.B. Forrest life. A natural military genius with limited education. His family were Revolutionary*War heroes. Forrest was living on a hill farm in Mississippi when his father died. Nathan worked that farm so his siblings could attend school.*

While a young man Forrest was a highly successful independent businessman. He leveraged his interpersonal skills into being one of the most wealthy businessmen in Memphis.

Nathan was hot of temper and hardy of constitution. He did not go to West Point but he schooled the product of that fine institution. His success on the battlefield was without question. The "Devil Forrest" was what the Bill Sherman, The Butcher of Atlanta, called him.*

After the war Forrest was active in local politics. He died in Memphis in 1877







Nathan Bedford Forrest was certainly one of the most intriguing and colorful characters of the Civil War - the commies at the*SPLC


"After all, I think Forrest was the most remarkable man our Civil War produced on either side...He had never read a military book in his life, knew nothing about tactics, could not*even drill a company, but had a genius of strategy which was original, and to me incomprehensible." Regarding Forrest's military genius,*William T. Sherman*who is arguably the second best calvary leader*of the War Between the States

That*we are beaten is a self-evident fact, and any further resistance on our part would be justly regarded as the very height of folly and rashness."

"Civil war, such as you have just passed through naturally engenders feelings of animosity, hatred, and revenge. It is our duty to divest ourselves of all such feelings; and as far as it is in our power to do so, to cultivate friendly feelings towards those with whom we have so long contended, and heretofore so widely, but honestly, differed. Neighborhood feuds, personal animosities, and private differences should be blotted out; and, when you return home, a manly, straightforward course of conduct will secure the respect of your enemies. Whatever your responsibilities may be to Government, to society, or to individuals meet them like men."

"The attempt made to establish a separate and independent Confederation has failed; but the consciousness of having done your duty faithfully, and to the end, will, in some measure, repay for the hardships you have undergone. In bidding you farewell, rest assured that you carry with you my best wishes for your future welfare and happiness. Without, in any way, referring to the merits of the Cause in which we have been engaged, your courage and determination, as exhibited on many hard-fought fields, has elicited the respect and admiration of friend and foe. And I now cheerfully and gratefully acknowledge my indebtedness to the officers and men of my command whose zeal, fidelity and unflinching bravery have been the great source of my past success in arms."

"I have never, on the field of battle, sent you where I was unwilling to go myself; nor would I now advise you to a course which I felt myself unwilling to pursue. You have been good soldiers, you can be good citizens. Obey the laws, preserve your honor, and the Government to which you have surrendered can afford to be, and will be, magnanimous."




All the above quotes were N.B. Forrest addressing his men in 1865. It would have been easy for the charismatic Forrest to have put 10s of thousands of men into guriella warfare against the USA had he have been of such a mind. But he was a proudAmerican and urged peace from his men. He did notflinch from reality and became a post war statesman
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Even*his enemies admire the greatest calvary leader in American history
 
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Try reading the content. N. B.*Forrests*tactics were taught at West Point.

The*fact that you sensitive liberals hate American heroes just makes you guys commie lovers.
 
LewisTT said:
Try reading the content. N. B.*Forrests*tactics were taught at West Point.

The*fact that you sensitive liberals hate American heroes just makes you guys commie lovers.
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He was a good loser. Lol
 
vegas giants said:
He was a good loser. Lol
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are*you immune to facts? Facts to you are like kryponite to Superman right


the mans tactics were taught at West Point. Forrest was born an American and died an American and he was the greatest American cavalry solider this country ever produced.
 
What*is*amazing to me is that liberals and many other people have been very effectively brainwashed into believing that the Civil War was about slavery in the first place.*

Dragging down monuments is just a way of reinforcing that lie.
 
vegas giants said:
He was a good loser. Lol
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Hey Vegas,,,, liberal commie, can you explain to me why he was a loser???
I bet you think it was slavery, it was*about the south producing all the raw materials that were used for manufacturing in the north. The south was using slave labor to keep up with the demand from the northern pricing, and with little or no say in government policies. When yet more taxes were imposed, the south rebelled.

Revolutionary War 2.0, and slaves weren't brought into the fight until later. Do your own fact-checking, the information is there.
 
LewisTT said:
are*you immune to facts? Facts to you are like kryponite to Superman right


the mans tactics were taught at West Point. Forrest was born an American and died an American and he was the greatest American cavalry solider this country ever produced.
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But he was a loser. LOL
 
LewisTT said:
Hey Vegas,,,, liberal commie, can you explain to me why he was a loser???
I bet you think it was slavery, it was*about the south producing all the raw materials that were used for manufacturing in the north. The south was using slave labor to keep up with the demand from the northern pricing, and with little or no say in government policies. When yet more taxes were imposed, the south rebelled.

Revolutionary War 2.0, and slaves weren't brought into the fight until later. Do your own fact-checking, the information is there.
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You lost buddy. Time to get over it. We shouldn't have statues of traitors
 
LewisTT said:
Hey Vegas,,,, liberal commie, can you explain to me why he was a loser???
I bet you think it was slavery, it was*about the south producing all the raw materials that were used for manufacturing in the north. The south was using slave labor to keep up with the demand from the northern pricing, and with little or no say in government policies. When yet more taxes were imposed, the south rebelled.

Revolutionary War 2.0, and slaves weren't brought into the fight until later. Do your own fact-checking, the information is there.
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In April 1864, in what has been called "one of the bleakest, saddest events of American military history,"[6] troops under Forrest's command massacred Union troops who had surrendered, most of them black soldiers, along with some white Southern Tennesseans fighting for the Union, at the Battle of Fort Pillow.[7][8] Vilified in the North as a war criminal, Forrest was blamed for the massacre in the Union press, and the news of it strengthened Northern morale.
 
During Reconstruction, Forrest's citizenship rights were restored[9][10][11] with the pardon he received from President Andrew Johnson on July 17, 1868,[12][13][14] but he never could escape the label of "Butcher of Fort Pillow".[15]
Forrest joined the Ku Klux Klan, apparently in 1867, two years after its founding, and was elected its first Grand Wizard.[16][17] At the time the group was a loose collection of local groups that used violence and the threat of violence to maintain white control over the newly liberated and enfranchised slaves.[
 
vegas giants said:
During Reconstruction, Forrest's citizenship rights were restored[9][10][11] with the pardon he received from President Andrew Johnson on July 17, 1868,[12][13][14] but he never could escape the label of "Butcher of Fort Pillow".[15]
Forrest joined the Ku Klux Klan, apparently in 1867, two years after its founding, and was elected its first Grand Wizard.[16][17] At the time the group was a loose collection of local groups that used violence and the threat of violence to maintain white control over the newly liberated and enfranchised slaves.[
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How*am I ignoring slavery? I'm the one who brought up how the South was meeting their end of the "supply and demand" chain.*

They rebelled when the North levied taxes against the South without representation.*

"NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION"*

Ring a bell? It should. It was the war cry of the American Revolution.*

Funny that the slavery situation was well established long before the Civil War, and that none of the great Northern politicians had a problem with it until MONEY was involved. Want me to pull up a Google list of all the American presidents who were slave owners?
 
vegas giants said:
You lost buddy. Time to get over it. We shouldn't have statues of traitors
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I provided*you a link showing that US presidents were slave-owners starting with George Washington. Go back and*check.

It's an ugly chapter in American history, but one that should be remembered as it happened, not as a fairy-tale. The North used freedmen as cannon-fodder during the war. The sad fact is that none of the leaders on either side cared about the slaves at the time.
 
LewisTT said:
are*you immune to facts? Facts to you are like kryponite to Superman right


the mans tactics were taught at West Point. Forrest was born an American and died an American and he was the greatest American cavalry solider this country ever produced.
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Greatest cavalry soldier does not make great American hero especially in the case of Bedford Forrest.

That said, if you point of your thread is pulling down monuments, I am not in favor of pulling down the monuments of actual Confederate leaders as long as they are carefully placed. Statues honoring the Confederate Army.....they absolutely need to be placed someplace off courthouse steps. Getting them gone to some rural battlefield would not bother me in the least.
 
LewisTT said:
What*is*amazing to me is that liberals and many other people have been very effectively brainwashed into believing that the Civil War was about slavery in the first place.*
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Every real historian knows it was because Lincoln mooned Davis and stole his wife.

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LewisTT said:
What*is*amazing to me is that liberals and many other people have been very effectively brainwashed into believing that the Civil War was about slavery in the first place.*

Dragging down monuments is just a way of reinforcing that lie.
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So what was it about if not about slavery genius.
 
LewisTT said:
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Even*his enemies admire the greatest calvary leader in American history
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Oh look, yet another conservative fawning over a traitor and founding father of a domestic terrorist organization. What a surprise.....not.
 
LewisTT said:
Hey Vegas,,,, liberal commie, can you explain to me why he was a loser???
I bet you think it was slavery, it was*about the south producing all the raw materials that were used for manufacturing in the north. The south was using slave labor to keep up with the demand from the northern pricing, and with little or no say in government policies. When yet more taxes were imposed, the south rebelled.

Revolutionary War 2.0, and slaves weren't brought into the fight until later. Do your own fact-checking, the information is there.
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What a moronic claim you just made. From the 1820s up until Lincoln the South basically ran the federal government. Southern projects like expanding slavery westwards and the Fugitive Slave Act were promoted; northern interests like the Transcontinental Railroad were ignored.

The Founding Fathers would be appalled to hear their struggle equated to the desperate attempt of slavers to continue owning other human beings.

Clearly you haven't done any "fact checking" whatsoever.
 
jnug said:
So what was it about if not about slavery genius.
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Ah, but back then slavery was legal. It was established and accepted by the buyers in the North that suppliers from the South used slaves to produce their goods.

Why didn't the North boycott Southern goods that were produced using slavery?
 
LewisTT said:
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Even*his enemies admire the greatest calvary leader in American history
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My favorite CS general, too bad he had to soil his Rep and honor after the war.
 
Casper said:
My favorite CS general, too bad he had to soil his Rep and honor after the war.
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Fort Pillow meant that he didn't have any honor left in the first place.....even before he got involved with domestic terrorism.
 
LewisTT said:
I provided*you a link showing that US presidents were slave-owners starting with George Washington. Go back and*check.

It's an ugly chapter in American history, but one that should be remembered as it happened, not as a fairy-tale. The North used freedmen as cannon-fodder during the war. The sad fact is that none of the leaders on either side cared about the slaves at the time.
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Did George Washington murder hundreds of surrendered troops?
 
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