Klansman gets 4 years in prison for firing gun at 'Unite the Right' rally

AGENT J · Aug 22, 2018

Napoleon said:
Judge Preston’s feelings obviously were not sufficient grounds to charge or convict this man of anything but shooting a firearm within 1,000 feet of a school. You wouldn’t find a jury anywhere willing to convict this man of any serious charge with video footage of a guy popping out of the bushes trying to set people on fire.

once again you just proved you didnt watch the video nor have you seen the full video LOL
the retard KKK member is going away for 4 years, get over it

Napoleon · Aug 22, 2018

AGENT J said:
once again you just proved you didnt watch the video nor have you seen the full video LOL

I’ve seen the video and the actual charge that was brought against this man is proof enough of the validity of my position.

X Factor · Aug 22, 2018

Hawkeye10 said:
It is a tool of the state, used to grab for power and keep the citizens docile.

It is a means of injustice, but look at how few of our elledged best and the brightest object, or are even found willing to admit the truth?

It looks like THE NEW CHINESE EMPIRE will be making fast work of us.

Napoleon said:
Is it murder if a man is firing a makeshift blowtorch at you so you shoot him? Sounds more like self defense to me and that’s probably why he was charged with shooting a firearm within 1,000 feet of a school instead of a crime like attempted murder or some such thing.

Get a grip, people. Don’t feel too bad for the violent Klan douchebag. Getting his name in the paper and a prison term are probably the crowning achievements of his life.

SheWolf · Aug 22, 2018

poweRob said:
Remember when the cops sat back and watched this guy pull a gun and fire a warning shot at someone and did nothing? We somebody else stepped in and did something about it apparently.

Klansman gets 4 years in prison for firing gun at 'Unite the Right' rally

A Klansman caught on video firing a gun in the middle of the 2017 white nationalist "Unite The Right" rally in Charlottesville has been sentenced to four years in prison by a judge in Virginia.

Richard Preston was handed an eight-year sentence Tuesday, with four years suspended. He also will serve three years of supervised probation.

Preston has said he was a the white nationalist rally as a member of a militia -- but he is also Imperial Wizard of a Ku Klux Klan chapter in Maryland. He is shown on the video yelling the n-word and firing a gun in the direction of a black protester who is seen wielding a blowtorch.

Que the cries of "makeshift blowtorch weapon of mass destruction the black guy was carrying".

A lot of stuff happening in the news suggests cops are confused about our gun laws, and they react and use force inappropriately.

I really think there needs to be an overhaul in police training.

It's getting ridiculous that they arrest people for almost nothing, even beating them or killing people, and call it resisting arrest or disturbing the peace, and then the person often released without charge. Yet you have people pulling guns like this guy, and they do nothing.

Napoleon · Aug 22, 2018

X Factor said:
Get a grip, people. Don’t feel too bad for the violent Klan douchebag. Getting his name in the paper and a prison term are probably the crowning achievements of his life.

I don’t feel bad for him. I also don’t feel bad for the boob with the blowtorch.

Hawkeye10 · Aug 22, 2018

phattonez said:
Anybody who objects is just a racist.

Or some other ism...anything that works to label both the argument and the one speaking it garbage so that it can be ignored is JUST FINE AND DANDY.

UTOPIA will not get here on its own you know...

AGENT J · Aug 22, 2018

Napoleon said:
I’ve seen the video and the actual charge that was brought against this man is proof enough of the validity of my position.

your position has no validity since he was in fact found guilty and is going to jail. if your position of self defense had validity he wouldn't have been charged and going to jail for 4 years LMAO

SheWolf · Aug 22, 2018

X Factor said:
Not if it’s self defense and from what I read he was charged with a misdemeanor assault.

Why didn't the cops arrest him or do something?

They are confused and have trouble defining illegal and legal behavior.

Anybody who can put race aside for a minute, can see it's obvious that police need to be trained differently.

Hawkeye10 · Aug 22, 2018

X Factor said:
Get a grip, people. Don’t feel too bad for the violent Klan douchebag. Getting his name in the paper and a prison term are probably the crowning achievements of his life.

First they come for the ones they call the Klan, then they come for me...

ARGUMENT REJECTED!

Napoleon · Aug 22, 2018

AGENT J said:
your position has no validity since he was in fact found guilty and is going to jail. if your position of self defense had validity he wouldn't have been charged and going to jail for 4 years LMAO

Guilty of what? Hmmmm? Why wasn’t he charged with something like attempted murder or assault with a deadly weapon or a charge that actually involves imminent threat to another human being? The answer is because you would never get a conviction from a jury when the defense points out that this is the guy he was shooting at in defense of himself or others:

phattonez · Aug 22, 2018

X Factor said:
Get a grip, people. Don’t feel too bad for the violent Klan douchebag. Getting his name in the paper and a prison term are probably the crowning achievements of his life.

Does being racist mean you're not entitled to a fair justice system?

AGENT J · Aug 22, 2018

Napoleon said:
Guilty of what? Hmmmm? Why wasn’t he charged with something like attempted murder or assault with a deadly weapon or a charge that actually involves imminent threat to another human being? The answer is because you would never get a conviction from a jury when the defense points out that this is the guy he was shooting at in defense of himself or others:

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theres nothign to debate your claim lost to facts already LMAO once again if your claim of self defense had validity there would be no charge and he would be going to jail for 4 years. But he was and is hence your claim has no validity. Let me know when that fact changes.

PragmaticOne · Aug 22, 2018

poweRob said:
Remember when the cops sat back and watched this guy pull a gun and fire a warning shot at someone and did nothing? We somebody else stepped in and did something about it apparently.

Klansman gets 4 years in prison for firing gun at 'Unite the Right' rally

A Klansman caught on video firing a gun in the middle of the 2017 white nationalist "Unite The Right" rally in Charlottesville has been sentenced to four years in prison by a judge in Virginia.

Richard Preston was handed an eight-year sentence Tuesday, with four years suspended. He also will serve three years of supervised probation.

Preston has said he was a the white nationalist rally as a member of a militia -- but he is also Imperial Wizard of a Ku Klux Klan chapter in Maryland. He is shown on the video yelling the n-word and firing a gun in the direction of a black protester who is seen wielding a blowtorch.

Que the cries of "makeshift blowtorch weapon of mass destruction the black guy was carrying".

The people who participate in "Unite the right" rallies have nothing in common with the "right" or with conservative views. They are fools being secretly manipulated by leftists who want to discredit Republicans.

X Factor · Aug 22, 2018

AGENT J said:
your position has no validity since he was in fact found guilty and is going to jail. if your position of self defense had validity he wouldn't have been charged and going to jail for 4 years LMAO

Well, except he wasn’t convicted of any kind of assault on the other guy. Whether he should have been is a different question but but IMO, you cannot take this conviction for one thing and say it’s indisputable proof that he was actually guilty of something else.

Napoleon · Aug 22, 2018

AGENT J said:
theres nothign to debate your claim lost to facts already LMAO once again if your claim of self defense had validity there would be no charge and he would be going to jail for 4 years. But he was and is hence your claim has no validity. Let me know when that fact changes.

The fact is that all you could charge this guy with is discharging a firearm within 1,000 feet of a school. Joke is on you. :lol:

AGENT J · Aug 22, 2018

X Factor said:
1.)Well, except he wasn’t convicted of any kind of assault on the other guy.
2.)Whether he should have been is a different question but but IMO, you cannot take this conviction for one thing and say it’s indisputable proof that he was actually guilty of something else.

1.) what do you mean except? where did i say thats what he was convicted of?
2.) didnt say that either but it is indisputable proof he wasn't acting in self defense which is what i said

X Factor · Aug 22, 2018

AGENT J said:
theres nothign to debate your claim lost to facts already LMAO once again if your claim of self defense had validity there would be no charge and he would be going to jail for 4 years. But he was and is hence your claim has no validity. Let me know when that fact changes.

Self defense is an affirmative defense not any kind of a bar to prosecution, though. Charges are filed all the time against people everyone knows is going to claim self defense. It’s up the the judge/jury if they believe the defense or not.

AGENT J · Aug 22, 2018

Napoleon said:
1.) The fact is that all you could charge this guy with is discharging a firearm within 1,000 feet of a school. Joke is on you. :lol:

1.) i cant charge him with anything LOL
2.) the only joke was your dishonest and retarded statment that your claim of self defense had validity since it was easily destroyed by facts (him going to jail for 4 years)

maybe write him a letter and tell him you think you feel it was self defense and you feel your claim has validity:2rofll:

AGENT J · Aug 22, 2018

X Factor said:
Self defense is an affirmative defense not any kind of a bar to prosecution, though. Charges are filed all the time against people everyone knows is going to claim self defense. It’s up the the judge/jury if they believe the defense or not.

and if the judge or jury felt that was a valid claim then there would be no charges :shrug:
unless theres some statue im not aware of that says you are not allowed to defend yourself within 1000 feet of a school and lets not forget what the judge said. he said after seeing the video that he shot his gun in anger not fear.

theres nothing in the video or the ruling of the judge that lends validity to self defense claims

X Factor · Aug 22, 2018

AGENT J said:
1.) what do you mean except? where did i say thats what he was convicted of?
2.) didnt say that either but it is indisputable proof he wasn't acting in self defense which is what i said

I’m just saying his conviction on this charge says nothing about him being guilty of some other charge, much less some potential claim of self defense.

AGENT J · Aug 22, 2018

X Factor said:
I’m just saying his conviction on this charge says nothing about him being guilty of some other charge, much less some potential claim of self defense.

actually it does.. self defense would be a defense against this charge and if it had validity this charge couldnt stick... again unless in that state you are not allowed to practice self defense in a school zone?

lurchadams · Aug 22, 2018

poweRob said:
Remember when the cops sat back and watched this guy pull a gun and fire a warning shot at someone and did nothing? We somebody else stepped in and did something about it apparently.

Klansman gets 4 years in prison for firing gun at 'Unite the Right' rally

A Klansman caught on video firing a gun in the middle of the 2017 white nationalist "Unite The Right" rally in Charlottesville has been sentenced to four years in prison by a judge in Virginia.

Richard Preston was handed an eight-year sentence Tuesday, with four years suspended. He also will serve three years of supervised probation.

Preston has said he was a the white nationalist rally as a member of a militia -- but he is also Imperial Wizard of a Ku Klux Klan chapter in Maryland. He is shown on the video yelling the n-word and firing a gun in the direction of a black protester who is seen wielding a blowtorch.

Que the cries of "makeshift blowtorch weapon of mass destruction the black guy was carrying".

One down, 41 million to go. No, I'm not really advocating for the incarceration of all trump voters for voting the wrong way. But it is fun to think about sometimes.

X Factor · Aug 22, 2018

AGENT J said:
and if the judge or jury felt that was a valid claim then there would be no charges :shrug:
unless theres some statue im not aware of that says you are not allowed to defend yourself within 1000 feet of a school and lets not forget what the judge said. he said after seeing the video that he shot his gun in anger not fear. :shrug:

theres nothing in the video or the ruling of the judge that lends validity to self defense claims

I think, ultimately, I agree with your conclusion. Nothing about this plea or sentence says anything one way or the other about the validity of a self defense claim.

X Factor · Aug 22, 2018

AGENT J said:
actually it does.. self defense would be a defense against this charge and if it had validity this charge couldnt stick... against unless in that state you are not allowed to practice self defense in a school zone?

Ah, I see what you’re saying and you’re right. If the defendant was actually defending himself when he fired the gun, that would be a defense to this charge just the same as any others.

AGENT J · Aug 22, 2018

X Factor said:
I think, ultimately, I agree with your conclusion. Nothing about this plea or sentence says anything one way or the other about the validity of a self defense claim.

im just saying the only way i could stand corrected is if the law this criminal was found guilty of has no exceptions or is a zero tolerance law and you are not allowed to practice self defense withing the determined school zone. which would be a HORRENDOUS law i would not support

**Just saw you other post where you understood

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