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Antifa chants death to America

any authoritarian organization OR government that attempts to use violence to further it's goals or take away our constitutional rights IS NO BETTER than any other. The whole point of the constitution is to say that certain rights cannot be eroded by governments, organizations or even the majority and breaking that, you risk losing all for everyone.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Really? Thats sad, perhaps you ought to enlighten yourself. there were huge numbers before our entry into WWII, in the 80's the socal skinhead movement was big, it re-energized neonazi membership.

Again, what damage was done by anti-fascism groups then?
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Can you cite something then the lint pulled from your ass as to these huge numbers? Cause I lived through the 80's and I don't recall the 80's being a skin head Neo Nazi era.
 
Linc said:
Rhetorical Death to GOP White Nationalist Nazi/KKK America is quite rightly.
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Since the GOP isn't a White nationalist party and the KKK is a child of the Democrat party, your rant is rather silly.
 
Renae said:
Since the GOP isn't a White nationalist party and the KKK is a child of the Democrat party, your rant is rather silly.
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Yer not really going to use the KKK/Democratic Party fallacy...are you?

You do know that Southern Dems were an extremely distinct conservative group that en-mass became GOP.....yes?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Yer not really going to use the KKK/Democratic Party fallacy...are you?

You do know that Southern Dems were an extremely distinct conservative group that en-mass became GOP.....yes?
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https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/fea...1-the-myth-of-the-republican-democrat-switch/

When faced with the sobering reality that Democrats supported slavery, started the Civil War when the abolitionist Republican Party won the Presidency, established the Ku Klux Klan to brutalize newly freed slaves and keep them from voting, opposed the Civil Rights Movement, modern-day liberals reflexively perpetuate rather pernicious myth--that the racist southern Democrats of the 1950s and 1960s became Republicans, leading to the so-called "switch" of the parties.
This is as ridiculous as it is easily debunked.
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PIPEWRENCH said:
That is the job of the people issuing permits as well as the people keeping order.

Personally I think opposing groups should not protest on the same day in the same place. This is just stupid. One side of the street you have several thousand KKK armed and on the other side you have several thousand black people armed. Some kid lights a pack of fire crackers and do I have to explain what happens next. These people should not be taunting each other. That is not a protest it is bad situation looking to turn into a nightmare. If you are protesting you are trying to get a message out to the people. A bunch of clowns standing across from each other trying to out shout each other and taunting each other is beyond childish and stupid.
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I agree, but the current practice, whether or not it's worse than previous generations, is almost certainly a matter of both groups chasing the 24-hour news media.
 
Renae said:
https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/fea...1-the-myth-of-the-republican-democrat-switch/
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LOL, your reference admits the point at the end, the white South was a conservative stronghold throughout its history. I did not argue the movement from Dem to gop by the VOTERS happened "suddenly", his entire focus on Congressional members, is a smoke screen. Southern Democrats, the voters, voted for conservative causes consistently. The CRA was a liberal concept, which is why it is the focal point of so much of the change of the Solid South going from D to GOP. You always focus on party and not ideology. Northern Dems were not Southern Dems and the CRA votes clearly showed this.

PS....why are you not responding the the 80's skinhead point?
 
Question for Anyone with an Opinion:

Ben Shapiro's show yesterday asserted that the mainstream media barely covered Antifa's assaults on cops and journalists on 8/12/2018.

I wasn't able to scrutinize the news on 8/13, so I can't say whether or not Shapiro's on target this time.

How much, if any, coverage did "Antifa's antics" get at CNN and MSNBC in the last two days?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
LOL, your reference admits the point at the end, the white South was a conservative stronghold throughout its history. I did not argue the movement from Dem to gop by the VOTERS happened "suddenly", his entire focus on Congressional members, is a smoke screen. Southern Democrats, the voters, voted for conservative causes consistently. The CRA was a liberal concept, which is why it is the focal point of so much of the change of the Solid South going from D to GOP. You always focus on party and not ideology. Northern Dems were not Southern Dems and the CRA votes clearly showed this.

PS....why are you not responding the the 80's skinhead point?
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Because I wanted you to push it so I could destroy you.

The racist faction of the skinhead subculture eventually spread to North America, Europe and other areas of the world. White power skinhead groups such as the Hammerskins emerged, and racist skinheads gained acceptance among other organized white power organizations such as the Church of the Creator, White Aryan Resistance and the Ku Klux Klan.[16][17][18] In 1988, there were approximately 2,000 neo-Nazi skinheads in the United States.[19]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_power_skinhead

Have a nice day.
 
Renae said:
Your silly claim of the 80's being rife with neo nazi's and skin heads. toodles.
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I said there were significant numbers of neo-nazi groups that formed in the 80's, not that they were "rife" or common, so you went strawman.

You point to one subgroup of neo-nazis, skinheads, and believe that sums it up. In the 80s there were hundreds of chapters of anti-racist groups throughout the US, they didn't form for no reason.

I can't help the fact that you are ignorant of these sub-cultural phenoms, but I witnessed it.


Anti-Racist Action was founded in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in the late 1980s by members of the anti-fascist skinhead group Minneapolis Baldies, left-wing punk rock fans, and other activists.[2][3] ARA then expanded to several communities in the United States and Canada. Members of Love and Rage, a revolutionary anarchist organization, played a major role in building ARA groups and the ARA Network in the 1990s,[4] and the group's structure was formalized in 1994 at the first Midwest Anti-Fascist Network conference, in Columbus, Ohio.[5]

Anti-Racist Action is cited as a precursor to the American movement later known as Antifa.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Racist_Action
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I said there were significant numbers of neo-nazi groups that formed in the 80's, not that they were "rife" or common, so you went strawman.

You point to one subgroup of neo-nazis, skinheads, and believe that sums it up. In the 80s there were hundreds of chapters of anti-racist groups throughout the US, they didn't form for no reason.

I can't help the fact that you are ignorant of these sub-cultural phenoms, but I witnessed it.


Anti-Racist Action was founded in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in the late 1980s by members of the anti-fascist skinhead group Minneapolis Baldies, left-wing punk rock fans, and other activists.[2][3] ARA then expanded to several communities in the United States and Canada. Members of Love and Rage, a revolutionary anarchist organization, played a major role in building ARA groups and the ARA Network in the 1990s,[4] and the group's structure was formalized in 1994 at the first Midwest Anti-Fascist Network conference, in Columbus, Ohio.[5]

Anti-Racist Action is cited as a precursor to the American movement later known as Antifa.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Racist_Action
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2000 neo nazi's is SIGNIFICANT!!!!

You so silly.
 
I grew up in the 80s punk rock scene in Chicago and new of members of CASH. They made national headlines with a brutal crime spree that involved assaults on six Hispanic women, swastikas painted on synagogues, and incidents of vandalism to Jewish-owned businesses. The leader of CASH was an ex-con and former member of the American Nazi Party named Clark Martell. They were dangerous psychotic people. I know another skinhead that serving time in state prison for pushing an elderly Asian man to his death into lake Michigan. It’s not the numbers , it’s the amount of damage that they can do.
 
I'm so confused...
 
Renae said:
It's easy, the left thinks they are useful for their cause and will let them do their thing, with the belief that once they are in power the Antifa toads will fade away. They created a monster and haven't any clue how bad Antifa is going to bite them in the ass.
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I still don't see a historical parallel from where you can make this conclusion.
 
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