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Here we go again. Warnings about our elections not being taken seriously

I completely agree with you. The writing is on the wall and has been for almost 2 years.
Captain distracto is not allowing it to be covered with all the other crap going on.

#45 is a non entity to me, unless you consider the insane chaos caused by #45 every time it speaks or affects policy.

All we have to think of at this late hour of another disgrace of a day in our history is what McConnell would do as a Democrat. I’ll start there, and then move to the better Angels of the Progressive Conservatism of IKE, FDR, TR, and AL.
 
You are aware that the Republicans looked under every rock they could find to turn over and did not find any evidence of that "illegals are voting by the millions bull****." Right?



Right?

Right, and let me say again that the transparency from the election geniuses is really bad, we should be so ashamed.

Give me a full audit of every state by some geniuses that I might be able to trust.

They have to be able to see anything they want to see.

Then we can move along perhaps.

PERHAPS
 
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People give you counts that can be verified. No machines involved. What's the hurry? The campaign took months, now minutes count? Instant totals are only important to the media. Let the newsrooms sit tight and hold their water while the ballots are counted.
Well to some degree yeah time counts. Hand counts can take weeks if not months. More importantly machines are more accurate. Secondly, you can still do a hand count to confirm the machines count.

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Right, and let me say again that the transparency from the election geniuses is really bad, we should be so ashamed.

Give me a full audit of every state by some geniuses that I might be able to trust.

They have to be able to see anything they want to see.

Then we can move along perhaps.

PERHAPS

Let’s try a different approach. Why would illegals risk exposure by voting when barely half of our eligible citizens bother to vote?

There’s nothing in it for an individual to vote. Nothing.
 
Security of our electronic machines is definitely questionable.

I find it interesting that any election won by a Republican is proof of vote tampering.
 
On Tuesday night as special election results were coming in. I was thinking I'm not even sure if these results are real.

Do you feel confident your vote will count in November?

South Florida election heads say no evidence Russians have breached voter systems, despite Nelson's statement - Sun Sentinel
https://www.cnet.com/news/florida-senator-warns-of-election-hack-dhs-says-theres-no-problem/

And you think Russian interference in this years elections would be to help Republicans???? You cant be serious. Plus, maybe it would be a good idea for Mueller to wrap up his investigation PRIOR to this falls election. After all, if you are going to prevent Russian interference in the future, it would help to know exactly what they did in the past and take steps to stop it from happening again.
 
They’re already embedded deep into our election software, malware as you know it. We’ll never trust our elections again until they’re all PAPER.

Unless a democrat wins, then all is fine.


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Exactly my point. It scares the hell out of me what would happen in the streets of this country if the election system isn't trusted by the people, and it is damned dangerous to play around with even hinting at that without solid, unquestionable proof.

That's the type of thing that topples governments and throws countries into chaos and bloodshed.

It's, too, serious to play politics with.

i agree. the trouble is that Russia is hacking our election system to help Republicans win, so some of them don't care at best and encourage it at worst.
 
Who you vote for doesn’t matter right now. That’s the problem with this country. Too many people dancing around dangerous and most existential threats to our Nation while people don’t want to completely solve a REAL ISSUE.

judging by how solidly Republican districts are shifting Democratic by ten or eleven points, i'm not convinced that my vote doesn't matter. i also do want to solve the problem. if they can't secure the voting machines, then we should probably go back to paper until they can. however, that isn't going to happen, because most states are controlled by Republicans, and the Russians are helping them, so many of them don't care.
 
They very well might be letting a million illegals vote, that is totally something that they would do and then lie about as they refuse all attempts at audits.

Almost all the states refused, per the law, to provide the information being requested, the the administration change the request to get the information they needed, nope. If there are Millions of illegals voting it should be easy to prove, they and you still cannot. Just more koolaid for the minions and nothing more. Funny how minions complain about a non issue, yet deny the real meddling in our election process by a country that is one of our biggest enemies, guess that is what brainwashing looks like.
 
If you believe what Nelson and many other Democrats are saying, when the local election officials (the only one's that actually maintain the machines and would know) say there is no evidence of what is being claimed by the Democrats, and DHS says there's no evidence as well, then the Democrats have done the job for Russia - before the election has even occurred.

Democrats, like Marco Rubio. That Democrat????

I don't think the first response out of the State of Florida even in this environment should be a surprise. States are defensive around this entire issue. But if Florida just stonewalls this, that is a problem.
 
judging by how solidly Republican districts are shifting Democratic by ten or eleven points, i'm not convinced that my vote doesn't matter. i also do want to solve the problem. if they can't secure the voting machines, then we should probably go back to paper until they can. however, that isn't going to happen, because most states are controlled by Republicans, and the Russians are helping them, so many of them don't care.

Thank you. Until we get through the heads of our fellow GOPs on this Russian entrance into our election infrastructure, we haven’t. Sen. McCaskill of Missouri has seen a worse intrusion by the Russians into her election right this moment.

We only have 87 days until election results and none of us expect a clean election. That’s what it’s come to in our Nation, where GOPs stand idly by while they’re being helped by Russians in our elections.

I no longer trust McConnell, Ryan, and Pence to do what’s best for this Nation. Only our Generals like Mattis, Kelly and Dunford can save us now.
 
Thank you. Until we get through the heads of our fellow GOPs on this Russian entrance into our election infrastructure, we haven’t. Sen. McCaskill of Missouri has seen a worse intrusion by the Russians into her election right this moment.

We only have 87 days until election results and none of us expect a clean election. That’s what it’s come to in our Nation, where GOPs stand idly by while they’re being helped by Russians in our elections.

I no longer trust McConnell, Ryan, and Pence to do what’s best for this Nation. Only our Generals like Mattis, Kelly and Dunford can save us now.

i haven't trusted any of them in a long time, and probably won't. however, recent elections have shown that our system is tough to crack, so i hope that the system is secure.
 
i haven't trusted any of them in a long time, and probably won't. however, recent elections have shown that our system is tough to crack, so i hope that the system is secure.

As sad as that is to process, we must not be dissauded from saving our Nation for our future generations.

I will be the fortunate one to be with three of those little people today, my great nieces and nephews. And to mention having my Mother, their Great Grandmother, with us from the Assisted Living Home. They are but a few of my Inspirations.

We are now on the precipitous of losing our entire election integrity, and GOPs laugh it off. They have already received their reward. America is election energized as I’ve never seen before, with 87 days to go. Registration and Voting is how we will change this Nation for the Better.
 
On Tuesday night as special election results were coming in. I was thinking I'm not even sure if these results are real.

Do you feel confident your vote will count in November?

South Florida election heads say no evidence Russians have breached voter systems, despite Nelson's statement - Sun Sentinel
https://www.cnet.com/news/florida-senator-warns-of-election-hack-dhs-says-theres-no-problem/

I'm sure if Democrats lose they'll say it was the Russians. If they win you won't hear any more about Russians.
 
And you think Russian interference in this years elections would be to help Republicans???? You cant be serious. Plus, maybe it would be a good idea for Mueller to wrap up his investigation PRIOR to this falls election. After all, if you are going to prevent Russian interference in the future, it would help to know exactly what they did in the past and take steps to stop it from happening again.

Does it matter who the foreign entity is helping?
WTF does Mueller investigation have to do with this other than all the great information in the Russian indictment that could help election officials navigate this craziness.
 
i agree. the trouble is that Russia is hacking our election system to help Republicans win, so some of them don't care at best and encourage it at worst.

Those people that are one of the 537 elected federal officers, that ignore it, don't care, or encourage it are IMHO giving aid and comfort to the enemy - look up the two act that define treason, and I imagine it would look very similar to what I just wrote - and it makes no difference to me as to what letter (R or D or I) that follows their name.

That said, there are also those that for political gain are intentionally conflating Russian interference in our elections as well as hacking of election external computer systems with the actual changing of votes in election machines or the vote counting software, which there is no evidence that I'm aware of has occurred. And doing that, is extremely dangerous to our country as well, as I stated in the post you quoted.
 
Democrats, like Marco Rubio. That Democrat????

I don't think the first response out of the State of Florida even in this environment should be a surprise. States are defensive around this entire issue. But if Florida just stonewalls this, that is a problem.

Calling Rubio a Democrat? Hyperbole doesn't do anything to advance the discussion. I do agree that the states, although rightfully defensive of accusations without evidence produced for them to review and work to correct, should not stonewall the feds.
 
On Tuesday night as special election results were coming in. I was thinking I'm not even sure if these results are real.

Do you feel confident your vote will count in November?

South Florida election heads say no evidence Russians have breached voter systems, despite Nelson's statement - Sun Sentinel
https://www.cnet.com/news/florida-senator-warns-of-election-hack-dhs-says-theres-no-problem/

There is no evidence that any Russian meddling in 2016 changed even one vote. On top of that, any Russian meddling is similar to illegals voting. Not enough to make a difference in the scheme of things. I do find it hilarious though that Democrats keep talking about the blue wave coming this November. If Russians are meddling in the 2018 elections, why would Democrats be thinking there was a blue wave coming? Ditto gerrymandering. If gerrymandering is what caused there to be a Republican House and nothing has changed, how in the hell do Democrats think they will retake the House with all of that gerrymandering and Russian meddling?
 
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