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Hillary... Feinstein... vs Trump... the 2-tier justice system

Digital only voting machines? The ones I vote for are paper ballot with digital tabulation. If I recall, even a digital voting machine has a paper ballot printed out when the voter finishes their voting selections. Reconciliation between the paper record and the digital results would certainly reveal the voting results manipulation that you seem to be speaking of.
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Both of the party machines will be lining up to contract those that can do that if there's a reasonable chance that it would be successful and undetectable. As I'm pretty certain of what I posted above, I'm not thinking it is.


I agree. Paperless touchscreens can illegally alter vote tabulations and results and if they are criminally manipulated the results will never show any tampering.

Problems with electronic machines were reported nationwide in the last few elections, and this report is from Venango County, PA:

The Myth of the Hacker-proof Voting Machine, N.Y Times, 2018/02/21. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/21/magazine/the-myth-of-the-hacker-proof-voting-machine.html

Quotes:

...Errors like these are especially troubling in counties like Venango, which uses touch-screen voting machines that have no backup paper trail; once a voter casts a digital ballot, if the machine misreads the vote because of error, or maliciousness, there's little chance the mistake will be detected. ...

Eckhardt and his colleagues concluded that the problem with the machines made by Election Systems & Software (ES&S), was likely a simple calibration error. But the experts were alarmed by something else they discovered. Examining the election-management computer at the county's office - the machines used to tally official elections results and, in many counties, to program voting machines - they found that remote-access software had been installed on it. ...

Remote-access software is a type of program that system administrators use to access and control computers remotely over the internet or over an organization's internal network...

The software, it turns out, was being used not by a hacker but by an authorized county contractor working from home...


I find this troubling. Voting machines that can be reprogrammed by county officials, and even tampered with from some 'authorized" person unknown to the public at large from home the day of or shortly before or after the election. Machines that, if tampered with and not immediately detected, can alter vote totals which will be impossible to ever detect the malfeasance in later.
 
Correction: ignored earlier.

No, I did answer that. I just went back and checked. Why don't you?

Since you find the question of why nobody in the Trump campaign went to the FBI after meeting with Russian agents to be "unanswerable", yes, being critical of the FBI and the DOJ is indeed premature with respect to the Russia/Trump investigation. However, when you find that you're able to address this very basic question, your criticism of the FBI may be able to be discussed.

And no, I will not ask Trump. I'm asking you.

Then you're wasting both our time, as you're asking the wrong person.
 
No, I did answer that. I just went back and checked. Why don't you?

You've answered nothing. I'm well aware of the tactic of saying "I answered that already" in order to deflect from answering a difficult question.

Then you're wasting both our time, as you're asking the wrong person.


Of course, because until you know why the Trump campaign refused to go to the FBI and lied compulsively about their meetings, you're in no position to be criticizing the FBI investigation. And the fact that even though you know the trump campaign has lied compulsively about meetings with Russian agents and did everything in their power to obscure those meetings, choosing to ignore all of that and focus on the FBI instead demonstrates serious flaws in your judgment.
 
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My concern is that if these flaws were unearthed in 2007, what sort of improvements may crooks have made to insure that potential electronic voter fraud is undetected? I just think more should be done to insure Americans are not being defrauded by crooks with access to voting machines that is relatively undetectable.

Let me guess. The selection of voting equipment is by some government someplace? And you expect competence of some level? :lamo

More done to ensure the voting is accurate and votes cast by legal voters? Absolutely, and in addition to securing the voting equipment as well. All the more mystery why some continue to resist voter ID, its as if they don't want to secure the election results.

You ask a good question.

How do we know these vulnerable machines are not being used today? Democrats trying to explain major discrepancies in the Detroit returns in the 2016 election blamed human incompetence but they also blamed "some of the irregularities on aging voting machines." (Detroit News, Detroit reps rip clerk's 'shameful' election oversight, Feb 10, 2017.)

You keep hearing about polling stations that have more cast votes than registered voters or population in the voting district. Always makes me wonder what the hell is going in these places.
 
You've answered nothing. I'm well aware of the tactic of saying "I answered that already" in order to deflect from answering a difficult question.

The question isn't difficult, it's impossible and fool hardy to answer it. How can one person possibly know what is in another person's mind?


Of course, because until you know why the Trump campaign refused to go to the FBI and lied compulsively about their meetings, you're in no position to be criticizing the FBI investigation. And the fact that even though you know the trump campaign has lied compulsively about meetings with Russian agents and did everything in their power to obscure those meetings, choosing to ignore off of that and focus on the FBI instead demonstrates serious flaws in your judgment.

I've substantiated a number of times now legitimate grounds on which to criticize the FBI's performance in these last 2 high profile cases / investigations, commenting only on the parts that have been made public, so fair grounds.

Your attempt at whitewashing and redirection not withstanding.

Kinda of tired going around in circles with you, while at the same time you are doing the best impersonation of a brick that I've ever seen.

Have a nice afternoon.
 
Why are all of these law enforcement and intelligence agencies looking into my crimes it’s not faaaiiiiiiiirrr

Hillary has committed scores of crimes.

Trump... none.

But we do know through the rash of firings at the FBI that there was corruption. Clapper lied under oath, Comey leaked, Lynch wasn;t meeting Felonious Bill about grandkids,...

Ohr
Ms. Ohr
McCabe
Strzok
Page
Comey
Obama
Clapper
Rosenstein
Komrade Brennan

Corrupt.

Just a mess of 3rd World ****hole Banana Republic behavior under Obama.

His legacy.

And with the treatment of Criminal Hillary and her cronies vs. Trump... we see clearly Lady Justice is not blind. She’s clearly in the Socialist camp.
 
The question isn't difficult, it's impossible and fool hardy to answer it. How can one person possibly know what is in another person's mind?




I've substantiated a number of times now legitimate grounds on which to criticize the FBI's performance in these last 2 high profile cases / investigations, commenting only on the parts that have been made public, so fair grounds.

Your attempt at whitewashing and redirection not withstanding.

Kinda of tired going around in circles with you, while at the same time you are doing the best impersonation of a brick that I've ever seen.

Have a nice afternoon.

You want to pretend that the party that's acting with obvious guilt (not going to the FBI, obscuring meetings with Russian agents, lying compulsively about those meetings) isn't relevant, and that it's not worth looking into because who can know why they chose to behave that way? It could be anything! Your judgment is completely flawed.
 
Hillary has committed scores of crimes.

Trump... none.

But we do know through the rash of firings at the FBI that there was corruption. Clapper lied under oath, Comey leaked, Lynch wasn;t meeting Felonious Bill about grandkids,...

Ohr
Ms. Ohr
McCabe
Strzok
Page
Comey
Obama
Clapper
Rosenstein
Komrade Brennan

Corrupt.

Just a mess of 3rd World ****hole Banana Republic behavior under Obama.

His legacy.

And with the treatment of Criminal Hillary and her cronies vs. Trump... we see clearly Lady Justice is not blind. She’s clearly in the Socialist camp.

Why didn't the Trump campaign go to the FBI after being approached by Russian agents and after meeting with those agents, zimmer?
 
You want to pretend that the party that's acting with obvious guilt (not going to the FBI, obscuring meetings with Russian agents, lying compulsively about those meetings) isn't relevant, and that it's not worth looking into because who can know why they chose to behave that way? It could be anything! Your judgment is completely flawed.

Acting guilty and being guilty two different things, and ones doesn't always immediately mean the other, and there is such a thing as burden of proof. So far there's not been courtroom level proof that there has been Trump campaign / Russian collusion. Should courtroom level proof be presented, I'll consider it, but as of this date and time, there's not been any.

Where as the points of which I'm critical of the DOJ and FBI are out as public knowledge.

As I've said, have a nice afternoon.
 
Acting guilty and being guilty two different things, and ones doesn't always immediately mean the other, and there is such a thing as burden of proof. So far there's not been courtroom level proof that there has been Trump campaign / Russian collusion. Should courtroom level proof be presented, I'll consider it, but as of this date and time, there's not been any.

Where as the points of which I'm critical of the DOJ and FBI are out as public knowledge.

As I've said, have a nice afternoon.

We don't need a courtroom to know that they didn't go to the FBI after their meetings with Russian agents, obscured the existence of those meetings, and lied about who was there and what they were about. Nobody believes you when you say those things don't suggest guilt.
 
We don't need a courtroom to know that they didn't go to the FBI after their meetings with Russian agents, obscured the existence of those meetings, and lied about who was there and what they were about. Nobody believes you when you say those things don't suggest guilt.

I didn't say 'they don't suggest guilt', I said 'one doesn't always immediately mean the other'. There's a difference.

Anyway, have a nice afternoon.
 
I didn't say 'they don't suggest guilt', I said 'one doesn't always immediately mean the other'. There's a difference.

Anyway, have a nice afternoon.

Nobody believes you're uncertain as to whether obfuscating and lying continuously about a thing could mean there's guilt involved.
 
Nobody believes you're uncertain as to whether obfuscating and lying continuously about a thing could mean there's guilt involved.

Good afternoon Cardinal.
 
They tipped off Feinstein about her 20-year spy.

They didn’t warn Trump about potential problems.

Hillary colluded with the Russians and hasn’t been investigated.

Trump was spied on, didn’t collude with the Russians, had the FBI, CIA and DoJ with Obama conspire against him.

Justice is not blind in America. The Left... have been exposed as corrupt.

Let’s be honest here... pretty much any want to government is corrupt. Especially at that high of a level.
 
Same post...

Why is Mueller showing no interest in Hillary who was among the crowd that paid Steele to concoct the fallacious and "unverified" dossier relying on Russian sources?

This whole travesty is shining a very bright light on the IN justice of our "Justice" System. It's also shining a light on the thugs who run it.

Every kid who ever got a ticket for "driving while black" understands this as well as Trump does.

The difference is that Trump has a pretty significant pulpit from which to complain.

Hillary was already investigated.
 
Let me guess. The selection of voting equipment is by some government someplace? And you expect competence of some level? :lamo

More done to ensure the voting is accurate and votes cast by legal voters? Absolutely, and in addition to securing the voting equipment as well. All the more mystery why some continue to resist voter ID, its as if they don't want to secure the election results.



You keep hearing about polling stations that have more cast votes than registered voters or population in the voting district. Always makes me wonder what the hell is going in these places.

There is an interesting write-up on Wikipedia, titled Electoral Fraud. I have no reason to suspect its statements or conclusions.
 
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