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    Re: Right wingers: Are you racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Do they use the word “racist” when describing themselves?
    Of course they do. Anyone who claims the superiority of their race above others is openly admitting their racism.
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    Re: Right wingers: Are you racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    Now you should know, only white people can be racist.
    Now, here's where we need to get on the same page with definitions. Certainly, many black and brown people can be bigots, and I've personally had it directed at me, quite a few times. I think of racism, however, as an institutional attitude and, in this country, those attitudes have been implemented, as laws, by white people.

    With regard to bigotry, I've had the sense that the right goes too far to pretend it doesn't exist anymore for minorities and the left pretends it never effects white people and, when it does, it's no big deal. They're both wrong.

    However, saying all of that, the racism exists in GOP policies that they know effect minorities and they don't admit it. Bigotry is more associated with ignorant people of all lcolors.

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    Re: Right wingers: Are you racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Of course they do. Anyone who claims the superiority of their race above others is openly admitting their racism.
    Well, I could certainly be wrong, so can you show me an example of people referring to themselves as “racist?”

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    Re: Right wingers: Are you racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    This issue is interesting to me because I've come to the conclusion that many if not most leftists believe that right-wingers are racist yet I never have conversations that have anything to do with racism with other right-wingers.
    Why would you? They don't call you on it.

    Racism and Sexism are a lot like alcoholism or drug abuse. When you're hanging out with other alcoholics or drug abusers your abuse seems normal, and you tend to gang up on and attack those who are judging you as if they are the ones with the problem.

    Like most alcoholics, racists and sexists struggle to admit they have the problem regardless of how obvious the signs are. They convince themselves they're in control of it, and that they can quit any time they want. They look to examples like that black friend they know the way that alcoholics point to the two days last week they didn't have a drink.

    Racism and Sexism like most psychological problems inhabit your sub-conscience. You often don't even realize you have the issue because it's all you know and seems normal. It goes hand in hand with the cognitive dissonance that your ego uses to convince yourself that you're a better person than you are.

    Most racism in today's world falls under what I would refer to as racial animosity or racial amplification. It's the idea that you may not directly hate a black person and would be willing to tolerate them being around so long as they remain in their place. So long as they are subordinate, agreeable, and conforming in every way you will tolerate them. But if they challenge you or your status in any way and try to act as if they are your equal or superior it makes you uncomfortable and messes with your view of your place in the world.

    If a black person was your bartender, waitress or janitor it wouldn't particularly bother you at all, but if they're promoted overtop of you, drive a nicer car than you, own a home in your exclusive neighborhood, or worst of all get themselves elected President of the United States then all of sudden your world feels out of place. You have to convince yourself that they somehow cheated in order to get ahead of you because you can't admit to yourself that they might actually just be better or smarter than you.

    Most white people can admit to themselves that black people are bigger, faster, stronger than them by nature, but they need to convince themselves that it's white people who have the brains and the leadership skills that make up for it. When a black person challenges that belief many white people struggle with it, and simply cannot accept it.
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    Re: Right wingers: Are you racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post

    Racism and Sexism are a lot like alcoholism or drug abuse.
    False equivalency. There is nothing wrong with either racism or sexism.

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    Re: Right wingers: Are you racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wan View Post
    False equivalency. There is nothing wrong with either racism or sexism.
    That requires explanation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    In fact, I speculate had Antifa not been there, there would have been zero deaths at that (Charlottesville) event.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    It is only one side that is engaging in violence and preaching hatred at marches and protest events, and they are almost always people on the political left, not the right.

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    Re: Right wingers: Are you racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    That requires explanation.
    No it doesn't. I think racism and sexism are perfectly fine and that's all you need to know. I don't need to explain anything to anybody.

    You can disagree with me, but that's a different topic altogether.

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    Re: Right wingers: Are you racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wan View Post
    No it doesn't. I think racism and sexism are perfectly fine and that's all you need to know. I don't need to explain anything to anybody.

    You can disagree with me, but that's a different topic altogether.
    "harming humans is perfectly fine".
    There are all sorts of implications for people who hold to such ideas.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    In fact, I speculate had Antifa not been there, there would have been zero deaths at that (Charlottesville) event.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    It is only one side that is engaging in violence and preaching hatred at marches and protest events, and they are almost always people on the political left, not the right.

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    Re: Right wingers: Are you racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    "harming humans is perfectly fine".
    There are all sorts of implications for people who hold to such ideas.
    Having racist beliefs does not invariably lead to the harming of others.

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    Re: Right wingers: Are you racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wan View Post
    Having racist beliefs does not invariably lead to the harming of others.
    but it can and often does....and...you are explaining...after absolutely refusing. Lots of absolutes flying around.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    In fact, I speculate had Antifa not been there, there would have been zero deaths at that (Charlottesville) event.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    It is only one side that is engaging in violence and preaching hatred at marches and protest events, and they are almost always people on the political left, not the right.

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