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Proud to Be White?

ecofarm said:
There's no such thing as white heritage. White is not a nationality, ethnic group or any other subgroup. It's a fantasy used for racist rhetoric. It's a lie. It's used to dupe people into believing they're "part of something". Just as many whites fought against the formation of the US as for it, so how does it become white heritage? Nonsense.
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So you saying essentially there is no such thing as heritage, for color or race then.
 
PirateMk1 said:
So you saying essentially there is no such thing as heritage, for color or race then.
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There's no white heritage because whites are just as responsible for fighting against whatever one takes ownership of, through skin color, because they fought for it.

Whites are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, American, Russian and French. Whites fought on both sides of every Western conflict. There is no "white heritage". That's a myth created for racial rhetoric.
 
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ecofarm said:
There's no white heritage because whites are just as responsible for fighting against whatever you take ownership of, through skin color, because they fought for it.

Whites are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, American, Russian and French. There is no "white heritage". That's a myth created for racial rhetoric.
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Really, German and Scandinavian are not a white heritages, Polish, not a white heritage. There is no white heritage? Excuse me caucasian heritages. So blacks and asians dont have heritages either as blacks and asians?
 
beefheart said:
Oh. look...Chicago....predicable use of anecdotal evidence.
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When it happens every weekend it's not anecdotal any more.......it's hard evidence of a dangerous and toxic subculture.

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PirateMk1 said:
Really, German and Scandinavian are not a white heritages, Polish, not a white heritage. There is no white heritage?
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That's national heritage. Of course national heritage exists, it was fought for by one side.

Excuse me caucasian heritages.
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Excuse you? I'm not sure you understand why there is not "white heritage".

Whites fought for the formation of the US. And whites fought against it. Why is the success white heritage and not the failure? Both were whites. See? You're just choosing the winning side from any Western conflict and labeling that "white heritage". One could just as easily choose all the losers and call that "white heritage".

Now, when Americans fought for independence, they didn't fight on both sides (in general and officially), so winning is American heritage. We assign it to Americans because they fought on one side and won. How can we assign the American win to white people when just as many white people fought against it?

So blacks and asians dont have heritages either as blacks and asians?
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In the West, blacks and Asians have a unique heritage built by their ancestors. They didn't fight on both sides and pick the winner to be their accomplishment.
 
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calamity said:
Oh noes, da Blakz!
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"From Friday to Monday morning, six people were killed and 33 people were injured."

Yes, 39 shot in one weekend.......and it repeats.

Good reason for concern.
 
NoMereRanger said:
Nowadays I get the sense that the "cool" thing to do is hate on white people simply for being white. We don't have to judge an individual for his actions or words, simply seeing that he is white is enough to solidify the belief that he must be less deserving of respect because he's one of "those" people.

So, all my fellow whities and pale skinned cretins, I must ask: Are you proud of yourself as a white individual, not simply because you are white, but because you are a white individual who deserves to be judged based on what you do, exactly the same as anyone else?
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Gee, welcome to our world.
 
NoMereRanger said:
Nowadays I get the sense that the "cool" thing to do is hate on white people simply for being white. We don't have to judge an individual for his actions or words, simply seeing that he is white is enough to solidify the belief that he must be less deserving of respect because he's one of "those" people.

So, all my fellow whities and pale skinned cretins, I must ask: Are you proud of yourself as a white individual, not simply because you are white, but because you are a white individual who deserves to be judged based on what you do, exactly the same as anyone else?
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Red:
What you've described is judgment and attendant pride on account of one's accomplishments, not based on one's merely being white.

And, no, I'm neither proud nor dispirited on account of being white. After all, I didn't make that happen; it's no accomplishment of mine.
 
ecofarm said:
That's national heritage. Of course national heritage exists, it was fought for by one side.



Excuse you? I'm not sure you understand why there is not "white heritage".

Let's say whites fought against the formation of the US. And white fought against it. Why is the success white heritage and not the failure? Both were whites. See? You're just choosing the winning side from any Western conflict and labeling that "white heritage". One could just as easily choose all the losers and call that "white heritage".

Now, when American fought for independence, they didn't fight on both sides (in general and officially), so winning that is American heritage. We assign it to American because they fought on one side and one. How can we assign the American win to white people when just as many white people fought against it?



In the West, blacks and Asians have a unique heritage built by their ancestors. They didn't fight on both sides and pick the winner to be their accomplishment.
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You are way out in the weeds. Let's get back to the question which you seem to avoid, and that is there a black heritage or and Asian heritage or a Indian heritage. Or is all heritage national heritage?
 
PirateMk1 said:
You are way out in the weeds. Let's get back to the question which you seem to avoid, and that is there a black heritage or and Asian heritage or a Indian heritage. Or is all heritage national heritage?
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That's not weeds, that's explaining the myth of "white heritage". Whites didn't make America free. Just as many fought against it. Americans made America free.

I answered your question about others very clearly in but two sentences. First you complain about too much explanation, then you ignore my concise retort.

In both cases, your claims ("questions") are blown out of the water.
 
Vox said:
It was not because they were Irish--it was because they were weak.

The strong always oppress the weak.......it's always been and ever shall be so.

It is an unchanging part of human nature.
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Weak in what way? Let's hear it.
 
Vox said:
"From Friday to Monday morning, six people were killed and 33 people were injured."

Yes, 39 shot in one weekend.......and it repeats.

Good reason for concern.
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Not really. But, I'll let you try to figure out why.
 
NoMereRanger said:
Discriminate is too strong a word. I feel like the current "cool" thing to do is to point out that whites are horrible for whatever reason. Like using a hashtag on Twitter for your cause or something. It doesn't actually hold any weight, it's just the trendy thing right now:

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For everyone else who missed the OP, I clearly specified that the point isn't to be proud of being white, it's that you can be proud of yourself regardless of being white(or any other color) and regardless of anyone trying to tell you that because you are white, you are a problem. It's a reaction to an accusation, not a random claim to white supremacy or whatever. In the end, we are all scum.
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I finally get what you're trying to say, but then you had to go ruin it by saying we're all scum. Tongue in cheek?
Or were you serious? If so, why are we all scum?
 
Gee, seems like only yesterday a repeatedly banned poster said the same thing.

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NoMereRanger said:
Nowadays I get the sense that the "cool" thing to do is hate on white people simply for being white. We don't have to judge an individual for his actions or words, simply seeing that he is white is enough to solidify the belief that he must be less deserving of respect because he's one of "those" people.

So, all my fellow whities and pale skinned cretins, I must ask: Are you proud of yourself as a white individual, not simply because you are white, but because you are a white individual who deserves to be judged based on what you do, exactly the same as anyone else?
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What's that even supposed to mean? Your post reeks of something you want to say-without-saying.

If you aren't asking about people being proud of whiteness in it's own right, then what is the function of the word "white" in your sentence "Are you proud of yourself as a while individual . . . because you are a white individual who deserves to be judged based on what you do"?

Shouldn't your OP have read simply "Are you proud of yourself as an individual who deserve to be judged based on what you do"? Why bother with all the race talk?





It couldn't be because you want to say something else without really saying it, could it?

MMmmmhmmmm, I think it is exactly because of that.
 
calamity said:
White is a genetic defect that will soon be bred out of the human race. "Say Goodbye!"
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What complete nonsense this statement is. Skin tone is not a “defect” its evolution and adaptation mostly due to climate zones and available light. Paler skin synthesis vitamin D more efficiently in northern climate zones, that’s not a defect. In Africa alone, you will find endless genetic variants of skin tone from very dark to very light depending on genetic variants of that region.

Personally I keep it simple, we are all human beings irrelevant of skin tone. What defines you is your actions, ponder that before the next race baiting post you make.
 
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