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Now lets get real, Everyone is a fascist lets be honest!

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CentristFascist

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Imo objectively and factually everyone is a fascist whether they admit it or not. Essentially everyone just wants their own way... If liberals had their way we would be living in Stalinist Russia or Maoist China. If conservatives had their way we would probably all be living in Nazi Germany or something similar. This is what I honestly genuinely believe.
 
CentristFascist said:
Imo objectively and factually everyone is a fascist whether they admit it or not. Essentially everyone just wants their own way... If liberals had their way we would be living in Stalinist Russia or Maoist China. If conservatives had their way we would probably all be living in Nazi Germany or something similar. This is what I honestly genuinely believe.
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Nope. You're wrong. I do not want anything like Stalinist Russia, Maoist China, or Nazi Germany. All of those were about controlling people to the point that there were no freedoms and everyone but the elite was treated like crap. I fully believe in the ideals of the US where freedom, and Rights are our mantra. My Rights end where your Rights begin.
 
CentristFascist said:
Imo objectively and factually everyone is a fascist whether they admit it or not. Essentially everyone just wants their own way... If liberals had their way we would be living in Stalinist Russia or Maoist China. If conservatives had their way we would probably all be living in Nazi Germany or something similar. This is what I honestly genuinely believe.
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Assuming "Imo" means "In my opinion", then you don't believe that it is object nor factual.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Assuming "Imo" means "In my opinion", then you don't believe that it is object nor factual.
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Yes I am entitled to have an opinion where everyone is factually/objectively fascist. This is what "freedom of speech" allows is paradoxes to be intertwined. I'm even entitled to have the opinon that I am a cyborg invented by Skynet and sent to exterminate all human beings... Like I could say: "Ali you are a non-sequitiur, I have been sent from the future 2200 to 2018 to neurologically correct you". How flawed of a fundamental belief system is that brother? Affirmative mate?
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Assuming "Imo" means "In my opinion", then you don't believe that it is object nor factual.
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This is essentially where I'm trying to prove "freedom of speech" and "democracy" is subjective, flawed and illogical. Your rights don't exist they are just a form of mass indoctrination and control...
I hate to spoil your fun, but... there's no such thing as rights. They're imaginary. We made 'em up. Like the boogie man. Like Three Little Pigs, Pinocio, Mother Goose, **** like that. Rights are an idea. They're just imaginary.
Now, if you think you do have rights, I have one last assignment for ya. Next time you're at the computer get on the Internet, go to Wikipedia. When you get to Wikipedia, in the search field for Wikipedia, i want to type in, "Japanese-Americans 1942" and you'll find out all about your precious ****ing rights.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Nope. You're wrong. I do not want anything like Stalinist Russia, Maoist China, or Nazi Germany. All of those were about controlling people to the point that there were no freedoms and everyone but the elite was treated like crap. I fully believe in the ideals of the US where freedom, and Rights are our mantra. My Rights end where your Rights begin.
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Ideally I agree with you, but factually you are wrong and it's only when it fits a political agenda your "rights" exist.
 
quote-democracy-is-beautiful-in-theory-in-practice-it-is-a-fallacy-you-in-america-will-see-that-.jpg I despise this man, but this quote really resonates with me... I don't think you guys realise how democracy is such a paradox and contradiction in and of itself essentially. :shock:
 
StillBallin75 said:
Fascist has a definition and words mean things.
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Yes, fascism is exactly what I explained it was... You can't objectively have authoritarianism without at least elements of fascism it's factually impossible, impractical and everything else. I'm a proud fascist (it's just my opinion) I'm 1 person but "democracy" and great American "freedom" allows paradoxes to exist. If you have a fundamental issue with this then I suggest moving to a fascist country with leftist views.... (Perhaps Venezuela) there's plenty of other options though I just can't currently think of. But yeah I'm trying to illustrate a point here of how fundamentally flawed and illogical the system is in America and a lesser extent here.... The only thing that makes sense to me is A.I haha apart from that you are a non-sequitur with irrational emotional bias. Affirmative? Domo Arigato
 
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CentristFascist said:
I despise this man, but this quote really resonates with me... I don't think you guys realise how democracy is such a paradox and contradiction in and of itself essentially. :shock:
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Democracy is the most stable form of government because it allows ambitious people to have access to power. Any authoritarian regime is doomed to failure because power is shared only selectively and ideological purity must be maintained.
 
spud_meister said:
Democracy is the most stable form of government because it allows ambitious people to have access to power. Any authoritarian regime is doomed to failure because power is shared only selectively and ideological purity must be maintained.
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Ironically, Fascists on all sides (including myself as a case study) are allowed to exist in a "free" "democratic" society... Don't you see the logical fallacies and ridiculousness of that? xD
 
CentristFascist said:
Ironically, Fascists on all sides (including myself as a case study) are allowed to exist in a "free" "democratic" society... Don't you see the logical fallacies and ridiculousness of that? xD
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Exactly. You're even free to run for office and gain power, but to do so requires you to conform to political norms, and thus any fascist tendencies are diluted by necessity. In a fascist society, if you weren't ideologically pure, your only chance for power would be violent revolution, hence the unstable nature of Fascist states.
 
spud_meister said:
Exactly. You're even free to run for office and gain power, but to do so requires you to conform to political norms, and thus any fascist tendencies are diluted by necessity. In a fascist society, if you weren't ideologically pure, your only chance for power would be violent revolution, hence the unstable nature of Fascist states.
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Human beings are beneath me in my opinion no offence I have aspergers and autism. In my opinion, I am intellectually, logically and factually superior... I can say this because "democracy" "free speech" this is why the far-left millenials and ANTIFA causing massive violence in the street (along with the fringe right) now how does this make logical sense? I'm trying to illustrate a fundamental point here mate. In my humble opinion I believe these plebeians should be neurologically corrected force-ably. Now you can have the exact same opinion about me. But really, objectively it's pointless because I'm the one with no affiliations etc. You already said you agree with "democracy" "freedom-of speech" if you say that's what you think should happen to me."blah blah blah" then you are contradicting your own world views.... Which is essentially non-sense. But I know human beings love to try and get their 2 cents and find some response saying "haha". But I especially love getting off on leaving no subjectivity and no controversy thus no one can really argue because I have laid all the cards and facts on the table! Come at me bro...
 
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Ideally I agree with you, but factually you are wrong and it's only when it fits a political agenda your "rights" exist.
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I would suggest that you read my posting history before assuming anything about me. I have a long history of arguing on behalf of peoples Rights. Including people who I highly disagree with. So much so that I'm considered as a racist, bigot etc etc by some because people often cannot tell the difference between defending a persons Rights vs defending racism and bigotry. You know that old saying..."I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." I apply that to all Rights. And will continue to do so until the day I die.

But hey, you don't have to believe me. Read my posting history. Ask me about any scenario. Go ahead, challenge me.
 
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View attachment 67236541 I despise this man, but this quote really resonates with me... I don't think you guys realise how democracy is such a paradox and contradiction in and of itself essentially. :shock:
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Democracy is beautiful in theory. I agree. But we don't live in a democracy. That is where Mussolini got it wrong.
 
CentristFascist said:
Yes I am entitled to have an opinion where everyone is factually/objectively fascist. This is what "freedom of speech" allows is paradoxes to be intertwined. I'm even entitled to have the opinon that I am a cyborg invented by Skynet and sent to exterminate all human beings... Like I could say: "Ali you are a non-sequitiur, I have been sent from the future 2200 to 2018 to neurologically correct you". How flawed of a fundamental belief system is that brother? Affirmative mate?
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If something is objectively and factual, your opinion is irrelevant. If it isn't, then your opinion can be as nutty as you want which clearly you have requested an opinion set to 11.
 
CentristFascist said:
Human beings are beneath me in my opinion no offence I have aspergers and autism. In my opinion, I am intellectually, logically and factually superior...
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Oh, you're one of those...

I can say this because "democracy" "free speech" this is why the far-left millenials and ANTIFA causing massive violence in the street (along with the fringe right) now how does this make logical sense? I'm trying to illustrate a fundamental point here mate.
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Your ideas of "massive violence" have no sense of historical scale. Look at what Mussolini's brown shirts did compared to the average Antifa protest. A bit of violent behaviour is unavoidable in any society, but it's not a threat to democratic institutions.
 
CentristFascist said:
Human beings are beneath me in my opinion no offence I have aspergers and autism. In my opinion, I am intellectually, logically and factually superior... I can say this because "democracy" "free speech" this is why the far-left millenials and ANTIFA causing massive violence in the street (along with the fringe right) now how does this make logical sense? I'm trying to illustrate a fundamental point here mate.
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So, you're beneath yourself also? Or are you not a human being?
 
CentristFascist said:
This is essentially where I'm trying to prove "freedom of speech" and "democracy" is subjective, flawed and illogical. Your rights don't exist they are just a form of mass indoctrination and control...
I hate to spoil your fun, but... there's no such thing as rights. They're imaginary. We made 'em up. Like the boogie man. Like Three Little Pigs, Pinocio, Mother Goose, **** like that. Rights are an idea. They're just imaginary.
Now, if you think you do have rights, I have one last assignment for ya. Next time you're at the computer get on the Internet, go to Wikipedia. When you get to Wikipedia, in the search field for Wikipedia, i want to type in, "Japanese-Americans 1942" and you'll find out all about your precious ****ing rights.
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So which is it, objective and factual, or opinion? My rights are my rights as long as I can defend them, just as is your right to torture the English language. "freedom of speech" and "democracy" are subjective...
 
Kal'Stang said:
I would suggest that you read my posting history before assuming anything about me. I have a long history of arguing on behalf of peoples Rights. Including people who I highly disagree with. So much so that I'm considered as a racist, bigot etc etc by some because people often cannot tell the difference between defending a persons Rights vs defending racism and bigotry. You know that old saying..."I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." I apply that to all Rights. And will continue to do so until the day I die.

But hey, you don't have to believe me. Read my posting history. Ask me about any scenario. Go ahead, challenge me.
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I like your stance and I admire people like that essentially... But the way the world works nowadays generally is not that way and when you are surrounded by 90% of people who behave the opposite of that way. Then enlighten us/me what is the correct course of action? People defending peoples views keep getting attacked physically/verbally and I despise those thugs seriously! But pragmatically wtf can I do bro?
 
Kal'Stang said:
So, you're beneath yourself also? Or are you not a human being?
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You don't understand I'm trying to provoke intelligent though and discussion I'm illustrating a valid point. I sometimes don't know fully if I am a human being either because I don't understand human emotions very well. Thus a lot of the time it inadvertently makes me angry because I can't logically decipher/comprehend it brother.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
So which is it, objective and factual, or opinion? My rights are my rights as long as I can defend them, just as is your right to torture the English language. "freedom of speech" and "democracy" are subjective...
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Brother, you are on entirely different quantum realm and dimension then what I am currently on. I do not really understand the way your brain works which is my fault and for that I apologise.
 
CentristFascist said:
I like your stance and I admire people like that essentially... But the way the world works nowadays generally is not that way and when you are surrounded by 90% of people who behave the opposite of that way. Then enlighten us/me what is the correct course of action? People defending peoples views keep getting attacked physically/verbally and I despise those thugs seriously! But pragmatically wtf can I do bro?
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Easy. Continue no matter the cost. The Rights and freedoms that we have were not, and never will be, cheap. There is a cost to them. There is a cost to defending them. If you're not willing to go the complete distance in defending them then you don't truly believe in them. 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999% (<---you get the idea) of people could be against me and I will STILL fight for our Rights and freedoms.
 
CentristFascist said:
You don't understand I'm trying to provoke intelligent though and discussion I'm illustrating a valid point. I sometimes don't know fully if I am a human being either because I don't understand human emotions very well. Thus a lot of the time it inadvertently makes me angry because I can't logically decipher/comprehend it brother.
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Then here's a bit of advice while you're trying to provoke intelligent thought. Don't go around telling people that you're above them. Because that is a sure fired way to get them to turn aggressive, which will make them unable/unwilling to hear what you are saying.

And there are plenty of human beings out there that don't understand emotion. And it is not confined to some "higher intelligence". Even the average person has trouble with emotions. You are not near as different as you seem to think.
 
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