Witch Hunt???

plutonium said:

Trump said the Mueller investigation is bad for the country. well i dont see how it effected the market or economy.. Now on the other hand,,,When trump was cowling under Putin and would not check him in his face on the meddling ...that was very bad for our country

Click to expand...

• Summary of Senate findings
  • Nothing probative was found showing China's government acted to influence the election.
    • 
      

      While the Committee still cannot determine conclusively whether the PRC funded, directed, or encouraged the illegal contributions in question, all of the information related herein, taken together, constitutes strong circumstantial evidence that the PRC government was involved. In addition, there are indications that Chinese efforts in connection with the 1996 elections were undertaken or orchestrated, at least in part, by PRC intelligence agencies. It is likely that the PRC used intermediaries, particularly with regard to political contributions. This is so because only U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents can contribute lawfully to political parties and campaigns. Moreover, the use of businesses and individuals as intermediaries is increasingly common among Chinese intelligence and military organizations. Given the way the PRC exercises control over certain businesses and individuals, it hardly would be surprising to learn that the PRC directed overseas Chinese to contribute to particular parties or candidates. In addition to furthering the goals of the PRC plan, such actions would seem within the capabilities of a government able to implement private espionage and intelligence-gathering activities.

      Click to expand...

  • The findings were very different from the unanimous-except-for-the-President findings of the Congress and the USIC regarding Russia's involvement in the 2016 election.

• The criminal investigation:
  [*=1]In that matter, Republicans tried their best to scandalized and see criminally charged Bill Clinton, but even the highly politicized GOP-held Senate couldn't come up with so much as "pea turkey squat" showing that Clinton did anything wrong. Specifically, Congressional GOP leaders derided the Administration's decision to transfer oversight of certain goods from State to Commerce and also waive sanctions and ease the export control process, thereby allowing two aerospace companies to export satellites they wanted the Chinese to launch into space aboard Chines rockets. GOP Congress members furthermore accused the Administration of conspiratorially being influenced by the American aerospace manufacturers, citing Bernard L. Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space and Communications, who gave more than $600,000 to the Democratic Party, making him the single largest personal donor. Thus, the DoJ convened a special task force to investigate whether political contributions influenced the Administration's 1996 decision to reverse a State Department policy that had categorized satellites as ''munitions,'' making it more difficult to export them for launching aboard Chinese rockets.
  [*=1]Then, China, as Russia has re: Trump, denied any involvement, which of course they had to (as must Russia) for to do otherwise is to openly attest to having essentially committed an act of war, leaving little recourse but actually going to war, be it "cold" or "hot," which none of the nations involved want to do with one another. China's denial, like Russia's, came in the face of a Chinese national having attested to the PRC government's having been given him resources to abet Clinton's ends.
  [*=1]Bill Clinton, unlike Trump, said the investigation should nonetheless proceed.
  • 
    [*=1]"In any case, I think the investigation ought to proceed, and then whatever the facts are, we'll take appropriate action at that time."

plutonium said:

Trump said the Mueller investigation is bad for the country. well i dont see how it effected the market or economy.. Now on the other hand,,,When trump was cowling under Putin and would not check him in his face on the meddling ...that was very bad for our country

Click to expand...

Xelor said:

AFAIK, the most similar kind of recent/"modern" investigation to the Trump-Russia investigation were those -- Congressional and criminal (FBI/DoJ) of the investigation of Chinese interference/involvement in Bill Clinton's 1996 election campaign. Those investigations however, was indeed a so-called witch hunt.

• Summary of Senate findings
  • Nothing probative was found showing China's government acted to influence the election.
    • 
      
  • The findings were very different from the unanimous-except-for-the-President findings of the Congress and the USIC regarding Russia's involvement in the 2016 election.

• The criminal investigation:
  [*=1]In that matter, Republicans tried their best to scandalized and see criminally charged Bill Clinton, but even the highly politicized GOP-held Senate couldn't come up with so much as "pea turkey squat" showing that Clinton did anything wrong. Specifically, Congressional GOP leaders derided the Administration's decision to transfer oversight of certain goods from State to Commerce and also waive sanctions and ease the export control process, thereby allowing two aerospace companies to export satellites they wanted the Chinese to launch into space aboard Chines rockets. GOP Congress members furthermore accused the Administration of conspiratorially being influenced by the American aerospace manufacturers, citing Bernard L. Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space and Communications, who gave more than $600,000 to the Democratic Party, making him the single largest personal donor. Thus, the DoJ convened a special task force to investigate whether political contributions influenced the Administration's 1996 decision to reverse a State Department policy that had categorized satellites as ''munitions,'' making it more difficult to export them for launching aboard Chinese rockets.
  [*=1]Then, China, as Russia has re: Trump, denied any involvement, which of course they had to (as must Russia) for to do otherwise is to openly attest to having essentially committed an act of war, leaving little recourse but actually going to war, be it "cold" or "hot," which none of the nations involved want to do with one another. China's denial, like Russia's, came in the face of a Chinese national having attested to the PRC government's having been given him resources to abet Clinton's ends.
  [*=1]Bill Clinton, unlike Trump, said the investigation should nonetheless proceed.
  • 
    [*=1]"In any case, I think the investigation ought to proceed, and then whatever the facts are, we'll take appropriate action at that time."

Listening to Trump, Trumpkins, and other Republicans, one'd think they think nobody alive today remembers the 1990s.

Click to expand...

jnug said:

[/b]

heck its way worse than that. They seem to think nobody was alive last week.....three days ago.......an hour ago!!!!

Click to expand...

Xelor said:

AFAIK, the most similar kind of recent/"modern" investigation to the Trump-Russia investigation were those -- Congressional and criminal (FBI/DoJ) of the investigation of Chinese interference/involvement in Bill Clinton's 1996 election campaign. Those investigations however, was indeed a so-called witch hunt.

• Summary of Senate findings
  • Nothing probative was found showing China's government acted to influence the election.
    • 
      
  • The findings were very different from the unanimous-except-for-the-President findings of the Congress and the USIC regarding Russia's involvement in the 2016 election.

• The criminal investigation:
  [*=1]In that matter, Republicans tried their best to scandalized and see criminally charged Bill Clinton, but even the highly politicized GOP-held Senate couldn't come up with so much as "pea turkey squat" showing that Clinton did anything wrong. Specifically, Congressional GOP leaders derided the Administration's decision to transfer oversight of certain goods from State to Commerce and also waive sanctions and ease the export control process, thereby allowing two aerospace companies to export satellites they wanted the Chinese to launch into space aboard Chines rockets. GOP Congress members furthermore accused the Administration of conspiratorially being influenced by the American aerospace manufacturers, citing Bernard L. Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space and Communications, who gave more than $600,000 to the Democratic Party, making him the single largest personal donor. Thus, the DoJ convened a special task force to investigate whether political contributions influenced the Administration's 1996 decision to reverse a State Department policy that had categorized satellites as ''munitions,'' making it more difficult to export them for launching aboard Chinese rockets.
  [*=1]Then, China, as Russia has re: Trump, denied any involvement, which of course they had to (as must Russia) for to do otherwise is to openly attest to having essentially committed an act of war, leaving little recourse but actually going to war, be it "cold" or "hot," which none of the nations involved want to do with one another. China's denial, like Russia's, came in the face of a Chinese national having attested to the PRC government's having been given him resources to abet Clinton's ends.
  [*=1]Bill Clinton, unlike Trump, said the investigation should nonetheless proceed.
  • 
    [*=1]"In any case, I think the investigation ought to proceed, and then whatever the facts are, we'll take appropriate action at that time."

Listening to Trump, Trumpkins, and other Republicans, one'd think they think nobody alive today remembers the 1990s.

Click to expand...