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I'm So Old I Remember When Liberals...

Linc said:
Just came in from brush for a towel down. And a Silver Bullet. Nothin like the sun setting now and clear nights. We’ll be getting a prime-time torch and start after heavy implements in metal 2.0. $$$ No wind now though, still humid, and the bugs.

There’s money in wood right now. Check the stocks. Homestead Act trees were just let go. Now I’m cleaning up my part. I’m intrigued by AG, as you can tell, as if it doesn’t have chem-is-try, physics, math, hard labor, skilled labor, and brains, farm manager brains.

This is my practice year. I learn fast, and have the capital for investing, after working a lifetime. I want to see my money work for the future generations on these farms. **** corporate farms who drove the little guys off.
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Money pretty much drove the little guy off the farms. We couldn't afford these 10 story harvesters or 20 row planters. America has changed, I really don't like it, but nothing I can do about it. It used to be once you got out of Atlanta, East Point and Hapeville, there was nothing but farms. Now you go 25 miles south of Atlanta and not one farm. There are dozens of towns, all right up to each other that if you didn't see the sign saying for example you leaving Forest Park, entering Lake City and leaving Lake City and entering Morrow, you would think it was all one huge suburb. I sometimes wonder what everyone is going to do when there isn't any land left to farm.
 
Perotista said:
Money pretty much drove the little guy off the farms. We couldn't afford these 10 story harvesters or 20 row planters. America has changed, I really don't like it, but nothing I can do about it. It used to be once you got out of Atlanta, East Point and Hapeville, there was nothing but farms. Now you go 25 miles south of Atlanta and not one farm. There are dozens of towns, all right up to each other that if you didn't see the sign saying for example you leaving Forest Park, entering Lake City and leaving Lake City and entering Morrow, you would think it was all one huge suburb. I sometimes wonder what everyone is going to do when there isn't any land left to farm.
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For those who don’t know, it was Lincoln Save This Union Again, as you’ll recall. If I was in your state, I’d be up in the mountains. We’ve never done the stretch from the Smokies to northeast Alabama. Maybe after she retires.

Having parents coming of age is tough. They’re all different. My Wife was there for me, still is on Mom, and I’m stepping up now. Everything’s a passion for me when I get into it.

We need to get the farm yard light fixed, last year. I don’t trust any of the electricity out here, just an infinitesimally smart part of one of our Nation’s greatest problems. As for roads, they weren’t supposed to last this long. We both know what a President Eisenhower would do. At least you knew of him. I was too young, 7 when JFK was elected.
 
Linc said:
For those who don’t know, it was Lincoln Save This Union Again, as you’ll recall. If I was in your state, I’d be up in the mountains. We’ve never done the stretch from the Smokies to northeast Alabama. Maybe after she retires.

Having parents coming of age is tough. They’re all different. My Wife was there for me, still is on Mom, and I’m stepping up now. Everything’s a passion for me when I get into it.

We need to get the farm yard light fixed, last year. I don’t trust any of the electricity out here, just an infinitesimally smart part of one of our Nation’s greatest problems. As for roads, they weren’t supposed to last this long. We both know what a President Eisenhower would do. At least you knew of him. I was too young, 7 when JFK was elected.
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I was six to fourteen under IKE. We do need another Eisenhower, for sure. The problem is IKE could never be nominated by the GOP today or JFK by the Democrats. Time moves on. Both presidents were more middle of the road than one would think. Both put country over party, that was the way it was back then. But then both parties had their conservative and liberals wings, so they were more alike than different. The Democrats, the conservative south with the old yeller dog Democrats. The Republicans the liberal northeast, the old Rockefeller Republicans.

Although I never voted for him, Perot twice. People wonder why I like Bill Clinton, he governed more like IKE than any Republican since Eisenhower. Can you imagine a politician getting up and telling a crowd, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country?" He'd get laughed out of the building, perhaps even the state.
 
I am just old enough to remember news articles everywhere about the end of the cold war, the east and the west uniting, and russian no longer being an enemy, seems today some people just need a boogeyman to blame their problems on and even want a new cold war.

I wonder if kids today go to school and instead of saying their dog ate their homework, that russia hacked their computer and stole their homework.
 
Perotista said:
I was six to fourteen under IKE. We do need another Eisenhower, for sure. The problem is IKE could never be nominated by the GOP today or JFK by the Democrats. Time moves on. Both presidents were more middle of the road than one would think. Both put country over party, that was the way it was back then. But then both parties had their conservative and liberals wings, so they were more alike than different. The Democrats, the conservative south with the old yeller dog Democrats. The Republicans the liberal northeast, the old Rockefeller Republicans.

Although I never voted for him, Perot twice. People wonder why I like Bill Clinton, he governed more like IKE than any Republican since Eisenhower. Can you imagine a politician getting up and telling a crowd, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country?" He'd get laughed out of the building, perhaps even the state.
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Your yes ma’am will be calling soon. Tell her it’s linc from the old days, the one you consoled 6 years ago when Dad died. She’ll remember. I’ll never forget you for that. We can still make a difference here and in real life.

I actually support the call for a ConCon, as you know. Your state was the 12th just recently. While these TEA party aims are anathema to today’s DEMs, DEMs are missing an opportunity to be in on the discussion, as usual.

We know that the feds and states can no longer govern, at all. It must start with us boomers, cleaning up our mess, and the messes that came before us. We owe it to the next generations.

Maybe some policy tomorrow? I’m on the farm, and the ideas fly doing brush and such.
 
To be fair, liberals believe that the Russians are involved in the border wall silliness, in the phony voter fraud committee, in forcing Trump not to release his taxes, in the Muslim ban, in forcing Trump to violate the law on the border, etc. All these policies I oppose were hatched in Moscow. Irrational, I know, but hell, I even believe that the Russians are responsible for the invasion of Ukraine.
 
Nickyjo said:
To be fair, liberals believe that the Russians are involved in the border wall silliness, in the phony voter fraud committee, in forcing Trump not to release his taxes, in the Muslim ban, in forcing Trump to violate the law on the border, etc. All these policies I oppose were hatched in Moscow. Irrational, I know, but hell, I even believe that the Russians are responsible for the invasion of Ukraine.
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You are the first person I've see ascribe those things to the Russians.
 
I remember when Conservatives didn't blame America first.
 
Linc said:
Your yes ma’am will be calling soon. Tell her it’s linc from the old days, the one you consoled 6 years ago when Dad died. She’ll remember. I’ll never forget you for that. We can still make a difference here and in real life.

I actually support the call for a ConCon, as you know. Your state was the 12th just recently. While these TEA party aims are anathema to today’s DEMs, DEMs are missing an opportunity to be in on the discussion, as usual.

We know that the feds and states can no longer govern, at all. It must start with us boomers, cleaning up our mess, and the messes that came before us. We owe it to the next generations.

Maybe some policy tomorrow? I’m on the farm, and the ideas fly doing brush and such.
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Morning Linc, I don't know what can be done. Cleaning up the mess is probably beyond anyone's or group or even political party's ability to clean up. First, people must want it cleaned up, fixed. It's like, give me everything I want now, I'm not about to try to clean anything up, let those who follow me do the cleaning up. The days of making sacrifices for the good of the country are over. There's no doubt the depression/WWII generation would have made whatever sacrifices necessary and then some.

Most of us boomers are purely selfish. We then taught our kids and grand kids to be just as selfish. You deserve everything and everything should be handed to you with you doing nothing in return. Perhaps I have given up. I look at the political scene today, all I can say is that this is as stupid as stupid gets. No cooperation between parties, just hate and the want to destroy the other.

Was it we boomers that did that or was it those we taught to be selfish do it. Either way, we are probably responsible in some way or the other. When presidents like IKE and JFK couldn't get past the nomination process in their respective parties because they aren't ideological pure enough, couldn't pass the litmus tests both parties have instituted. Something is terribly wrong. Heck, even Reagan and Bill Clinton couldn't be nominated today by their parties. We don't have to go back to IKE and JFK.
 
Perotista said:
Morning Linc, I don't know what can be done. Cleaning up the mess is probably beyond anyone's or group or even political party's ability to clean up. First, people must want it cleaned up, fixed. It's like, give me everything I want now, I'm not about to try to clean anything up, let those who follow me do the cleaning up. The days of making sacrifices for the good of the country are over. There's no doubt the depression/WWII generation would have made whatever sacrifices necessary and then some.

Most of us boomers are purely selfish. We then taught our kids and grand kids to be just as selfish. You deserve everything and everything should be handed to you with you doing nothing in return. Perhaps I have given up. I look at the political scene today, all I can say is that this is as stupid as stupid gets. No cooperation between parties, just hate and the want to destroy the other.

Was it we boomers that did that or was it those we taught to be selfish do it. Either way, we are probably responsible in some way or the other. When presidents like IKE and JFK couldn't get past the nomination process in their respective parties because they aren't ideological pure enough, couldn't pass the litmus tests both parties have instituted. Something is terribly wrong. Heck, even Reagan and Bill Clinton couldn't be nominated today by their parties. We don't have to go back to IKE and JFK.
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Everyone might have their favorite Infrastructure project they want. Mine connects IL One to KY 91 across the Ohio R. at Cave-In-Rock, Illinois. Went there last August for the total eclipse, which was unreal compared to any partial.

I’d say I need about $3 billion. Both sides of the river have great things to offer the other. We have the Shawnee National Forest in seriously poor trump Illinois. Bridges mean huge business, gas stations, motels, etc. Tolls for tourists and non-locals; rebates for locals crossing to work.

This is prime-time tree-growing area, both sides. Wooden bat factories are coming back. Your turn, for an Infrastructure project. Feel feee to go to planes, trains, autos, energy grid; whatever.
 
Xelor said:
You are the first person I've see ascribe those things to the Russians.
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If you are addicted to excuses, you need the injection.

Excuse Junkies don't care how bad their excuses are, they just have to have them. A few love the adulteration...
 
Linc said:
Everyone might have their favorite Infrastructure project they want. Mine connects IL One to KY 91 across the Ohio R. at Cave-In-Rock, Illinois. Went there last August for the total eclipse, which was unreal compared to any partial.

I’d say I need about $3 billion. Both sides of the river have great things to offer the other. We have the Shawnee National Forest in seriously poor trump Illinois. Bridges mean huge business, gas stations, motels, etc. Tolls for tourists and non-locals; rebates for locals crossing to work.

This is prime-time tree-growing area, both sides. Wooden bat factories are coming back. Your turn, for an Infrastructure project. Feel feee to go to planes, trains, autos, energy grid; whatever.
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Infrastructure, there's way too much construction and building going on around me for my likes. If anything around Atlanta, they should begin looking at a bunch of old bridges. Then if the water system counts, Atlanta needs to update theirs. It's over a 100 years old and the city hasn't done a darn thing to fix it. A week doesn't go by one doesn't hear about this water main or that water main bursting.

Atlanta keeps on waiting for either the state or federal government to fund their repairs and upgrades. They refuse to pay for any of it. Perhaps that goes back to the idea of having other pay for what you need. Me, I probably need to move again. When we first moved here, around 25 miles south of Atlanta there weren't but perhaps 10-20,000 people in the whole county. Almost all farm land with Stockbridge and McDonnough having a population of a couple of thousand folks. Today we probably have more than 220,000 in the county. Makes me feel like I'm living in an Atlanta suburb.
 
LowDown said:
...Accused Conservatives of Seeing Russians Under Every Bed.

Nowadays it's the Democrats/Media who are afflicted by that sort of thinking.

LIBERAL MEDIA SEES A RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY IN EVERY TRUMP POLICY WITH WHICH THEY DISAGREE.
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Except as usually is the case, democrats have facts on their side, and fact is, Russia has their hands all up Trumps ass, the facts coming out are undeniable.

I remember when conservatives were hateful, bigoted people fighting against civil rights and progress... oh wait, that much is still the same
 
iguanaman said:
I am also old enough to remember when Conservatives were in favor of free trade, American exceptionalism, and the rule of law. Now they have but one rule. If Trump does it they like it. It so simplistic that it almost sounds like surrendering their souls.
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That hasn't changed
 
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late said:
If you are addicted to excuses, you need the injection.

Excuse Junkies don't care how bad their excuses are, they just have to have them. A few love the adulteration...
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Excuse me?

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Oh, nevermind...I get it....Your use of a personal rather than impersonal pronoun confused me.
 
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LowDown said:
...Accused Conservatives of Seeing Russians Under Every Bed.

Nowadays it's the Democrats/Media who are afflicted by that sort of thinking.

LIBERAL MEDIA SEES A RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY IN EVERY TRUMP POLICY WITH WHICH THEY DISAGREE.
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Actually I remember a GOPer from Wisconsin start a "red scare" witch hunt naning every person who disagreed with him of being a Commie. There is even a name for the time, it is called the McCarthy era. How many people's lives were destroyed by this man and the people who went along with him.
 
Perotista said:
Infrastructure, there's way too much construction and building going on around me for my likes. If anything around Atlanta, they should begin looking at a bunch of old bridges. Then if the water system counts, Atlanta needs to update theirs. It's over a 100 years old and the city hasn't done a darn thing to fix it. A week doesn't go by one doesn't hear about this water main or that water main bursting.

Atlanta keeps on waiting for either the state or federal government to fund their repairs and upgrades. They refuse to pay for any of it. Perhaps that goes back to the idea of having other pay for what you need. Me, I probably need to move again. When we first moved here, around 25 miles south of Atlanta there weren't but perhaps 10-20,000 people in the whole county. Almost all farm land with Stockbridge and McDonnough having a population of a couple of thousand folks. Today we probably have more than 220,000 in the county. Makes me feel like I'm living in an Atlanta suburb.
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Excellent for you to bring up our entire water pipeline infrastructure with Atlanta as your example, as if Flint, Michigan was an outlier. This stuff wasn’t made to last forever, and now it’s coming of age. Without previous infrastructure on roads from IKE, trucking wouldn’t be what it is for another example.

So who can think on an IKE level for water pipeline infrastructure? Our best generals, officers, noncoms, and our brilliant civil servants, that’s who. We should just do what other Nations are doing in aspects where we’re behind them, as with trains. No need to reinvent every wheel. Freight trains are critical to farm country, bringing in vast amounts of imported anhydrous ammonia.

And then there’s the entire energy/electrical GRID, where we freely admit we’re at the mercy of cyber hackers from the Soviets, Red Chinese and North Koreans. They are our enemies, not our ‘competitors’. It’s insane for #45 to blame the USA more than the Soviets, as he did today.

I’ll be coming back to Linc’s interstate system of water pipelines, like draining ‘Louisiana Sinking’ west through Texas to arid regions desperate for water. Infrastructure is a worthy passion late in life, as well as farming, still helping teaching, and focused on the Sons of the American Legion for Veteran’s Issues.

(You Georgians are having a pretty messy gop primary.)
 
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DamnYankee said:
Leftists still adore Russia and yearn for the days of the old USSR. Which currently, Russia isn't too far from being. Remember, it is the left who would impose their will on the rest of us if they could. Just like the KGB, Stasi, or Hitler's Gestopo. Make no mistake.
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Its not the lefts leader now kissing the Kremlins butt, its one of your own !
 
iguanaman said:
I am also old enough to remember when Conservatives were in favor of free trade, American exceptionalism, and the rule of law. Now they have but one rule. If Trump does it they like it. It so simplistic that it almost sounds like surrendering their souls.
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First of all, we haven't had free trade for years. It's not GOPs who don't wish to prosecute the borders, for example. It wasn't a GOP president who created a safe haven in the US for dreamers because congress couldn't agree on the issue. There's not a GOP president, period, who would unilaterally create a safe haven for dreamers...

Which rule(s) of law are GOPs unwilling to follow?

If you believe in America first, you believe in American exceptionalism.
 
Grand Mal said:
I'm old enough to remember when there were intelligent conservatives. William Buckley jr. would be aghast at what's happened to the conservative movement.
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Most of yesterday's conservatives would be aghast at our current POTUS and his supporters.
 
yankintx said:
Its not the lefts leader now kissing the Kremlins butt, its one of your own !
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Administration Overlap is what the USA does the worst, together with bastardized historical revision. Our ‘competitors’ from rogue dictatorships don’t have that problem.

When reminded of Reagan’s amnesty, which helped elect both Bush presidents, we get opposite spin. When we remind that Reagan started trade agreements with Israel and Bush-41 laid the groundwork for NAFTA, we hear crickets.

Without trade with Mexico and Canada, farm country goes under. Every trumpcon farmer out here knows that.
 
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