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My daughter has a question.

Hawkeye10 said:
I am going to let this post stand as the last in this thread....Those of you who have not figured out that the Rebellion means business best wake the **** up....your kids are depending upon you.
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You unemployed guys will have a lot of time for this
 
SDET said:
What's your take on a place now called "The Hill" in St. Louis? The Italians themselves used a different word in place of The. It's four letters and starts with a "D". I'm guessing that the name was changed because the non-Italians were embarrassed to have an area of the city referred to with a slur.
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"The Dill"?
 
Cardinal said:
It didn't take you long to reveal the disingenuousness of your OP.
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Huh? Would you like to run that past me again? This wasn't a debate thread. It was a question posed by my daughter. I received what I felt were appropriate responses for a 12 year old and showed her those and left the bickering out.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Huh? Would you like to run that past me again? This wasn't a debate thread. It was a question posed by my daughter. I received what I felt were appropriate responses for a 12 year old and showed her those and left the bickering out.
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Right.
 
Cardinal said:
Right.
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Oh jeeze. :roll: Think whatever you like to think. I'm not participating in this thread's topic. I got what I wanted for my daughter. If you don't like it tough titty said the mama kitty to the baby kitty when the milk ran dry.
 
Kal'Stang said:
My daughter (who is 12) asked me yesterday to pose this question here and I honestly don't know the answer or how to answer.

It has to do with the N-word. I have told her in the past that it is not a word that she should ever utter and why she shouldn't utter it. Due to that she was wondering why black people call each other that. Anyone here have an answer for her?

Note: She WILL be reading this so please keep it civil and respectful.
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You might not want to share this with your daughter because it's sensitive, but goes along with what she is asking. For many years kids who were given up for adoption were called bastards as it was often assumed that they were the unwanted children of parents who didn't marry. Bastard is a very offensive word to adoptees. But instead of accepting the shame surrounding their births, they took the word, bastard, and empowered it. There is a worldwide organization called Bastard Nation, who fights for open records, unsealed original birth certificates, and helps fight states who keep adoptees' rightful information from them.

Bastard Nation
 
Kal'Stang said:
My daughter (who is 12) asked me yesterday to pose this question here and I honestly don't know the answer or how to answer.

It has to do with the N-word. I have told her in the past that it is not a word that she should ever utter and why she shouldn't utter it. Due to that she was wondering why black people call each other that. Anyone here have an answer for her?

Note: She WILL be reading this so please keep it civil and respectful.
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If they feel it is demeaning (and to me it is), I don't think they should use it on each other. It just makes no sense.
 
SDET said:
I will go out on a limb and say mine were. And them being avowed segregationists doesn't change that. I only knew one Great Grandparent, it's a real window into history to know someone born well before 1900.
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Good for you.

Doesn't really change the fact about anything in this thread though, does it. It's still an incredibly offensive term that white people have absolutely no business using.
 
MrMike said:
If they feel it is demeaning (and to me it is), I don't think they should use it on each other. It just makes no sense.
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It does not need to make sense to you
 
Kal'Stang said:
Oh jeeze. :roll: Think whatever you like to think. I'm not participating in this thread's topic. I got what I wanted for my daughter. If you don't like it tough titty said the mama kitty to the baby kitty when the milk ran dry.
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Sure, Kalstang, whatever.
 
Nilly said:
Translation: I don't want to face the consequences for the things I say and do. They should just deal with it when I call them a n*****.
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I don't know what your native language is but that wasn't much of a translation.
 
Nilly said:
Good for you.

Doesn't really change the fact about anything in this thread though, does it. It's still an incredibly offensive term that white people have absolutely no business using.
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Actually, the only reason I would want to use it is because someone said I can't. Then again, I'm crazy enough to have visited Cuba three times, badmouthing Communism / Socialism most of the time I was there.
 
MrMike said:
If they feel it is demeaning (and to me it is), I don't think they should use it on each other. It just makes no sense.
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Just spoke to my black friend. He said your opinion is duly noted and subsequently ignored.

SDET said:
Actually, the only reason I would want to use it is because someone said I can't. Then again, I'm crazy enough to have visited Cuba three times, badmouthing Communism / Socialism most of the time I was there.
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Wow you must be pretty proud of yourself.
 
Kal'Stang said:
My daughter (who is 12) asked me yesterday to pose this question here and I honestly don't know the answer or how to answer.

It has to do with the N-word. I have told her in the past that it is not a word that she should ever utter and why she shouldn't utter it. Due to that she was wondering why black people call each other that. Anyone here have an answer for her?

Note: She WILL be reading this so please keep it civil and respectful.
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Discriminated groups often reappropriate the language that was used against them.

Words are just words. If a Black person says the N-word to another Black person it doesn't have the same meaning because it's impossible to believe the person intends it as an insult since they are themselves Black.

People playfully use harsh language in jest, like when you call your friend an idiot but your friend knows you don't mean it.

One Jewish person will call another a Jew but if a non-Jewish person called them a Jew might be misunderstood. It's the same when women friends call each other the B-word.

For someone people, this nuance in language is impossible to understand and they'll complain that Black people can use the N-word but they can't. Hopefully, your daughter can understand.
 
Nilly said:
Just spoke to my black friend. He said your opinion is duly noted and subsequently ignored.



Wow you must be pretty proud of yourself.
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Actually a bit disappointed, I wanted to be able to brag about being thrown out of a Communist country. However, it was a pleasant surprise how many people in a friendly manner encouraged me to walk with them out of the area in case someone official heard me.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Discriminated groups often reappropriate the language that was used against them.

Words are just words. If a Black person says the N-word to another Black person it doesn't have the same meaning because it's impossible to believe the person intends it as an insult since they are themselves Black.

People playfully use harsh language in jest, like when you call your friend an idiot but your friend knows you don't mean it.

One Jewish person will call another a Jew but if a non-Jewish person called them a Jew might be misunderstood. It's the same when women friends call each other the B-word.

For someone people, this nuance in language is impossible to understand and they'll complain that Black people can use the N-word but they can't. Hopefully, your daughter can understand.
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My FAVORITE example of this is the term "Gusano". I would have to agree that being called that by the likes of the Castros should be considered a compliment. I wonder how it would be taken if a Gringo used the term in Miami.
 
Kal'Stang said:
My daughter (who is 12) asked me yesterday to pose this question here and I honestly don't know the answer or how to answer.

It has to do with the N-word. I have told her in the past that it is not a word that she should ever utter and why she shouldn't utter it. Due to that she was wondering why black people call each other that. Anyone here have an answer for her?

Note: She WILL be reading this so please keep it civil and respectful.
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Probably not a good answer, but context is everything... even with the N-word. What we are talking about in this case is the most extreme difference in context.
 
SDET said:
I don't understand how it got to be a slur. It is a testament to poor white people who couldn't properly speak the English language rather then any reflection on black people.
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The whole thing is a derivative of the Spanish word negro which means black. And it was always used in a negative way to black people. I lived down South when there was still segregation in the South. White people called blacks colored when they weren't being negative and the N word when they were being negative.
 
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