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Can anyone offer any Good Reason

jimbo said:
And other investigations say otherwise.
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Which other ones? The only one I remember is the House which was clearly along partisan lines.
 
Praxas said:
Conservatives complained about perception all the time in regards to the Clinton/Lynch meeting, but you're perfectly fine with Trump meeting Putin without any aides present. :roll:
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There was no perception regarding Clinton/Lynch. Mrs. Clinton was under investigation by Lynch's department and she met with Mr. Clinton in secret on a back lot in an Arizona airport. Lynch had no business meeting with Bill secretly or not.
 
Praxas said:
The meddling is VERY real as per the Senate Intelligence Committee's findings. They found there was meddling with a clear bias towards Trump. That doesn't mean collusion. But if you have a clear case of meddling, why in the world would you meet with that leader without any aides present? Just like the Clinton/Lynch meeting was the wrong thing to do, so is this.
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So has the special prosecutor found evidence that Trump participated in Russian meddling? NO!
Has the US meddled in any foreign elections? Maybe!
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/
The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money
to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections,
a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.
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Personally I think Puten would have rather Hillary to win, as he knew she could be bought.
 
Praxas said:
Which other ones? The only one I remember is the House which was clearly along partisan lines.
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That one, for one. But since that one differed from the official lefty version, it must have been political.
 
VanceMack said:
:lamo

Only to leftist morons that have fallen for the DNC Baba Yaga lies. Of course...private meeting s are FINE...when they are your people having them. Right? Clinton and Lynch...meeting privately...that was just a chance meeting with two people talking about their grandkids...right?
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Hey look over there! A red herring!!
 
jimbo said:
Considering the leaks that are fairly common in politics, I'd say absolutely.

Can you offer any good reason why he shouldn't?
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Well, if nobody hears them colluding on the mid terms, there won't be any evidence they colluded on the midterms.
 
jimbo said:
There was no perception regarding Clinton/Lynch. Mrs. Clinton was under investigation by Lynch's department and she met with Mr. Clinton in secret on a back lot in an Arizona airport. Lynch had no business meeting with Bill secretly or not.
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And there is still an investigation going on in regards to the meddling. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
 
VanceMack said:
Do you think the US involvement in foreign elections meets the same criteria?
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Do you think it's OK that Russia interfered in our elections? Is it something we should allow - invite the Chinese and Saudis to interfere as well?

I never understand the point of stupid observations like that above. For example, we have spies all over the world. When we catch one here, we don't say, "Well, we do the same thing so no harm, no foul." In fact we have significant assets here to discover them, root them out, arrest them, deport them if foreign and the death penalty for U.S. citizens who have turned against the U.S. So what possible point are you making with that diversion? I'm generally at a loss.
 
jimbo said:
That one, for one. But since that one differed from the official lefty version, it must have been political.
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The House was split along partisan lines. The senate was not.
 
Luckyone said:
Can anyone offer any good reason why Trump should meet with Putin without anyone else of the U.S. in the room?
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Without press and a bunch of other people around, both can be 100% honest and candid about what they think, feel, want. And you don't have the awkward situation of a President Obama being caught on an open mic telling then President Medvedev to give him space on missile defense issues and that he will have more flexibility after his election in 2012. Medvedev who would shortly turn the Presidency over to Putin while he (Medvedev) would become Prime Minister said he would relay the information to Putin.

. . .As he was leaning toward Medvedev in Seoul, Obama was overheard asking for time - “particularly with missile defense” - until he is in a better position politically to resolve such issues.

“I understand your message about space,” replied Medvedev, who will hand over the presidency to Putin in May.

“This is my last election ... After my election I have more flexibility,” Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term.

“I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” said Medvedev, Putin’s protégé and long considered number two in Moscow’s power structure.

The exchange, parts of it inaudible, was monitored by a White House pool of television journalists as well as Russian reporters listening live from their press center.​
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-summit-obama-medvedev-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326
 
longview said:
So has the special prosecutor found evidence that Trump participated in Russian meddling? NO!
Has the US meddled in any foreign elections? Maybe!
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/

Personally I think Puten would have rather Hillary to win, as he knew she could be bought.
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Not maybe, certainly. Kennedy put Castro in office then tried to take him out with an invasion. Obama tried to get Russia to back off until after the election when he would have more latitude. Obama flew the the UK to attempt to interfere with the Brexit vote.
 
longview said:
So now the statement include a caveat, that excludes almost all other Presidents.
So again, has any other American President met privately with any other national leader, without any caveats?
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All due respect, etc. but your question is a dumb one. We're talking about a specific meeting - Trump with Putin. That particular meeting has a context all its own - our intelligence agencies are unanimous that Putin interfered in the election with the intent to help Trump. The Senate committee came to the same conclusions. So the relevant question is specific to that meeting with that context.
 
Praxas said:
And there is still an investigation going on in regards to the meddling. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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And that investigation will continue until Hillary is crowned President.

You're correct. It's still going on, and found nothing.
 
jimbo said:
I'm still waiting for that proof that Russia meddled in our elections on behalf of now President Trump. It was the left, notably Hillary supporters that have the perception Hillary could not possibly have lost without help from the Eevil Russkise. Perception is closer to imagination than reality.

Did I miss something?
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You're not really waiting for proof, you just refuse to accept the proof that's out there, including the repeated assessments of U.S. intelligence, including under Trump, and the most recent report a week ago from the GOP led Senate intelligence committee that agreed with the intelligence findings.
 
Praxas said:
Riiiiiiiiiight, so you would have us believe that he is meeting privately without any other US member there because they might tell jokes. :roll: Please excuse me while I put on my waders to walk through the BS pile you just tried to lay on us all.
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Yup ... sarcasm and humor definitely go over liberals' heads ... :lol:
 
jimbo said:
And that investigation will continue until Hillary is crowned President.

You're correct. It's still going on, and found nothing.
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Yep, you guys had Hillary investigated for SEVERAL YEARS and it's not even 2 with this one and you guys are whining about it. You just keep proving my point of your partisan hackish comments.
 
VanceMack said:
You would...no doubt. And yet...you never have before.

Its obvious you BELIEVE Trump and Putin colluded...still...can you prove it?
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The evidence is overwhelming Putin interfered in the election to help Trump. The GOP led Senate agrees. Seems a bit....unusual for Trump to meet privately with the guy responsible for what is an attack on our democratic processes.

It would be one thing if we believed Trump was going to read Putin the riot act in private, but Trump has behaved like Putin's little bitch for so long we know that's not the intent.
 
Barnacle said:
Yup ... sarcasm and humor definitely go over liberals' heads ... :lol:
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Hard to tell sarcasm from a Trump supporter because most of the time they actually believe what they write as crazy as it is.
 
VanceMack said:
The same intel networks showed CLEARLY that Russia also hosted events for Hillary and for Sanders as well as promoted propaganda for ALL of them.

But thats different.
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That's not what they found. The Senate intelligence committee disagrees with you, and so do every U.S. intelligence agency that has commented on Russian efforts. Your gaslighting might work with Trump lemmings, but not with the rest of us.
 
jimbo said:
There was no perception regarding Clinton/Lynch. Mrs. Clinton was under investigation by Lynch's department and she met with Mr. Clinton in secret on a back lot in an Arizona airport. Lynch had no business meeting with Bill secretly or not.
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Red herring. That meeting was among the many things that cost Hillary the election, was widely condemned as inappropriate, so what's your point?
 
jimbo said:
They have. Most recently some feller named Obama. Met with Russian leader Medeyev privately in 2010.

And he's still doing it. Met with Macron in France in December, 2017.

But that's different.
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Please supply a link to your assertion that Obama (or any other President) met with another foreign leader without any aides at this side.
 
longview said:
So has the special prosecutor found evidence that Trump participated in Russian meddling? NO!
Has the US meddled in any foreign elections? Maybe!
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/

Personally I think Puten would have rather Hillary to win, as he knew she could be bought.
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Goodness, I can't believe this zombie right wing talking point has been brought up twice on this thread.

We also deploy spies, so foreigners spying and recruiting people inside our government to commit treason is no biggee I guess? If not that, what could possibly be your point?
 
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