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Black Oregon lawmaker says police were called as she knocked on doors

faithful_servant said:
It's a common tactic among "travelers" to get access to people's homes. Pose as a political candidate/carpet cleaners/new window salesperson to get people to open their homes up and then case the place for valuables.
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Yep, such survey takers can get all sorts of personal schedule/habits questions answered. Even if only one in 20 is an idiot then that's enough to make bank on.
 
White woman = no cops called.
 
lefty louie said:
We had a "window replacement" scam artist come to my town, the guy rings the bell, tells you your windows are old and outdated and being they are working in the area will cut you a deep discount if you order windows through them that day.

They were sizing up the home owners, seeing how was old and not fully in charge, gaining access and robbing them with diversionary tactics. I called the cops on the guy when he rang my bell and I told him to screw off with his scam, he went next door to my old lady neighbor, that's when I pulled out my cell phone and made the call, the guy took off running.
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Exactly when did you make the call to police, when they arrived at your door, or after they went next door? Seems you made the call as he rang your doorbell, and then called again when he went next door? Your story does have a ring to it, but.................
How many calls did you make?
How did you know it was a scam before they even talked to you?
Profile much?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
We moved into a new neighborhood (subdivision) and later learned that several as yet unoccupied houses had been robbed (stripped of all appliances and cabinetry). The perps were geniuses - they used a rented truck with a lift gate (several confirmed it as being a U-Haul but none had any idea of either the trucks ID # or its tag number), initially filled with empty boxes, carried them into the house on dollies, loaded them up with the loot and then put them back onto the truck. Nobody called police the entire weekend and at least a dozen houses were robbed in broad daylight.
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Greetings, ttwtt78640. :2wave:

Just when you think you've heard it all.... :doh: I've got a big dog that doesn't like anyone he doesn't know, and he looks mean and he's not kidding when he barks...loud and non-stop! I babysit three other little dogs but with all four of them barking, it apparently sends a message. Even the UPS guy just puts whatever he's delivering on the porch, rings the doorbell - that's good for some extra snarling added to the barking - and leaves! (I think he gets a kick out of helping the dogs get their exercise :yes:) :lamo
 
polgara said:
Greetings, ttwtt78640. :2wave:

Just when you think you've heard it all.... :doh: I've got a big dog that doesn't like anyone he doesn't know, and he looks mean and he's not kidding when he barks...loud and non-stop! I babysit three other little dogs but with all four of them barking, it apparently sends a message. Even the UPS guy just puts whatever he's delivering on the porch, rings the doorbell - that's good for some extra snarling added to the barking - and leaves! (I think he gets a kick out of helping the dogs get their exercise :yes:) :lamo
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With more and more homes, vehicles, roadways and shopping areas equipped with cameras, in addition loads of cellphones, it is getting harder to avoid being recorded (even incidentally) in public. The crime that I described happened about 45 years ago and would be much riskier today. I would not be surprised if rental trucks were not now equipped with GPS trackers and their time/location data stored in an NSA/FBI (accessible) database.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
With more and more homes, vehicles, roadways and shopping areas equipped with cameras, in addition loads of cellphones, it is getting harder to avoid being recorded (even incidentally) in public. The crime that I described happened about 45 years ago and would be much riskier today. I would not be surprised if rental trucks were not now equipped with GPS trackers and their time/location data stored in an NSA/FBI (accessible) database.
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Interesting thought to consider! :thumbs:
 
JANFU said:
Exactly when did you make the call to police, when they arrived at your door, or after they went next door? Seems you made the call as he rang your doorbell, and then called again when he went next door? Your story does have a ring to it, but.................
How many calls did you make?
How did you know it was a scam before they even talked to you?
Profile much?
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I can't answer your question except to say I wrote in error about the "first" call. Perhaps I was in the middle of a thought and got distracted, your point is taken and is quite correct. The call was made as he left my house and went towards the neighbors house.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Hmm...



perhaps reading the OP link might help.
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That's the reason from the person getting called on.
Kinda like asking a criminal why the cops are arresting him, you'd probably get a biased opinion or a flat out lie. The reasoning would have to come from the sheriffs office or the person that called the cops.
 
lefty louie said:
Not knowing our neighbors? Are we supposed to know everyone in our voting district now? If I see someone "canvassing" my neighbors houses for unknown reasons I become suspicious. Now if she knocks on my door and I see it's about an upcoming election I relax. If I see a trusted neighbor open their door and chat with her for a moment without raising an alarm (watching her walk away or some other overt action) I also relax.

We are taught, "If we see something, say something." So what are you to do?
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I live in a small city (pop. 8,000) that is the county seat of a large suburban Phila. county. I've seen the demographics numbers & they say that white people make up 98+% of the population. Just as it was when I lived in southern NH, you just don't see black people on your street or in your town or hospital. In my case, if I saw a person of color acting strangely, like walking around houses, I would call the police just to be on the safe side. I'm not going to tell them 'there's a black guy & he looks like he's trying to break in to houses' but i am going to ask them to send a patrol car & check him out to be on the safe side. And I would expect my neighbors to do the same. It's like a 'neighborhood watch.'
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk...-police-were-called-she-knocked-doors-n888916

State Rep. Janelle Bynum said the 911 caller was apologetic and said she did it for the safety of her neighborhood.

CLACKAMAS, Ore. — A black Oregon lawmaker says one of her constituents called police as she canvassed a Portland-area neighborhood that she represents.

State Rep. Janelle Bynum, who is running for re-election this fall, said she was knocking on doors, talking to residents and taking notes on her cellphone in Clackamas on Tuesday when a Clackamas County sheriff's deputy showed up.
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This trend of 'calling the cops on black people' seems to be reaching epidemic proportions.
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Get over it

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I used to walk to my gym in the early morning hours, while still dark. I was questioned by police once and had a couple of other occasions where they were clearly curious as to who I was and what I was doing. Even though they were white and so am I, they're clearly still racists because I wasn't doing anything wrong.
 
trouble13 said:
Get over it

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It's not a personal thing that one can just get over. While you may be able to ignore systemic racism, it's not good for society to do so.
 
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/08/6268...e-black-incident-you-can-t-legislate-humanity

Lawmaker In 'Canvassing While Black' Incident: 'You Can't Legislate Humanity'

People have asked Janelle Bynum whether legislation would help solve the problem of police being called on black people for just going about their daily lives. Bynum, an Oregon state representative who herself had authorities called on her while canvassing for votes earlier this month, simply tells them, "You can't legislate humanity."

Bynum, who is the only black representative in the Oregon state House, was canvassing in her district ahead of Independence Day, as NPR's Tanya Ballard Brown reported. The lawmaker said she was typing notes in a driveway when a deputy from the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office approached her.
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Interestingly the police officer did not ask to see her ID.

"It was so incredible for me because he believed me," she said of the officer.

"He was well within his rights to go as far down as he could to humiliate me in that circumstance as he wanted to, and he didn't," Bynum said.
 
Lutherf said:
It does seem that way. In fact, we're rapidly getting to the point where questioning anything a person of color does is suspect. Perhaps it's time to criminalize the questioning of anyone who may be or claims to be of a race other than White.
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Holy ****! I didn't realize people were calling the police on white people who were calling the police on black people! Otherwise I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Should we all start calling the cops on white people who are knocking on doors and looking at their cell phone?
 
She was apparently suspicious:

The woman who called 911 on state Rep. Janelle Bynum as she was canvassing in a Clackamas neighborhood Tuesday told a dispatcher that she'd never seen the legislator before and Bynum appeared suspicious because she seemed to be spending most of her time stopped at the end of driveways with no one home on the eve of Independence Day, according to the emergency audio.
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https://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2018/07/911_caller_said_oregon_state_r.html

On a holiday, when most people are away...

Yes, suspicious black or white.
 
Lutherf said:
It does seem that way. In fact, we're rapidly getting to the point where questioning anything a person of color does is suspect. Perhaps it's time to criminalize the questioning of anyone who may be or claims to be of a race other than White.
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Haven't you heard? All white Americans (no other nationality of course) are racists.
 
A thing happened in Seattle: general political point!




Ok ok. Ok. It perhaps also true that this happens way more than some want to believe, and in fact the rate of happening may be increased by failure to talk about it. I get it.
 
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