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Black Oregon lawmaker says police were called as she knocked on doors

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk...-police-were-called-she-knocked-doors-n888916

State Rep. Janelle Bynum said the 911 caller was apologetic and said she did it for the safety of her neighborhood.

CLACKAMAS, Ore. — A black Oregon lawmaker says one of her constituents called police as she canvassed a Portland-area neighborhood that she represents.

State Rep. Janelle Bynum, who is running for re-election this fall, said she was knocking on doors, talking to residents and taking notes on her cellphone in Clackamas on Tuesday when a Clackamas County sheriff's deputy showed up.
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This trend of 'calling the cops on black people' seems to be reaching epidemic proportions.
 
Now let's hear why that person called the police.
 
Now let's hear why that person called the police.

Hmm...

Bynum said the deputy told her a woman called police because the lawmaker appeared to spend a long time at homes and appeared to be casing the neighborhood while on her phone, The Oregonian/OregonLive reported.

perhaps reading the OP link might help.
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk...-police-were-called-she-knocked-doors-n888916

State Rep. Janelle Bynum said the 911 caller was apologetic and said she did it for the safety of her neighborhood.

CLACKAMAS, Ore. — A black Oregon lawmaker says one of her constituents called police as she canvassed a Portland-area neighborhood that she represents.

State Rep. Janelle Bynum, who is running for re-election this fall, said she was knocking on doors, talking to residents and taking notes on her cellphone in Clackamas on Tuesday when a Clackamas County sheriff's deputy showed up.
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This trend of 'calling the cops on black people' seems to be reaching epidemic proportions.

It does seem that way. In fact, we're rapidly getting to the point where questioning anything a person of color does is suspect. Perhaps it's time to criminalize the questioning of anyone who may be or claims to be of a race other than White.
 
It does seem that way. In fact, we're rapidly getting to the point where questioning anything a person of color does is suspect. Perhaps it's time to criminalize the questioning of anyone who may be or claims to be of a race other than White.

No, of course we should call the cops on black people doing suspicious things like walking down the street. I saw one stopped at a red light today. All I could think was "where are the police?"
 
Not knowing our neighbors? Are we supposed to know everyone in our voting district now? If I see someone "canvassing" my neighbors houses for unknown reasons I become suspicious. Now if she knocks on my door and I see it's about an upcoming election I relax. If I see a trusted neighbor open their door and chat with her for a moment without raising an alarm (watching her walk away or some other overt action) I also relax.

We are taught, "If we see something, say something." So what are you to do?
 
It does seem that way. In fact, we're rapidly getting to the point where questioning anything a person of color does is suspect. Perhaps it's time to criminalize the questioning of anyone who may be or claims to be of a race other than White.

The see something, say something unless the suspect is non-white plan may still have some problems. Best to not say anything ever than to risk being 'outed' as a racist - after all, it could turn out to have been a white Hispanic.
 
The see something, say something unless the suspect is non-white plan may still have some problems. Best to not say anything ever than to risk being 'outed' as a racist - after all, it could turn out to have been a white Hispanic.

I forgot about the white Hispanics. You're right, it's probably best to just presume that whatever is going on is 100% legit and keep on going about your business.
 
It appears this particular State Rep. was not familiar to all of her constituents. Points for her trying harder I guess.

Meanwhile we don't seem to hear any stories about people calling the police when they see an unrecognized white person "lurking about," because that never happens, right? :roll:

IMO it does happen, but it does not warrant any "public" outcry...since it obviously wasn't about racism. :coffeepap:
 
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Not knowing our neighbors? Are we supposed to know everyone in our voting district now? If I see someone "canvassing" my neighbors houses for unknown reasons I become suspicious. Now if she knocks on my door and I see it's about an upcoming election I relax. If I see a trusted neighbor open their door and chat with her for a moment without raising an alarm (watching her walk away or some other overt action) I also relax.

We are taught, "If we see something, say something." So what are you to do?

We moved into a new neighborhood (subdivision) and later learned that several as yet unoccupied houses had been robbed (stripped of all appliances and cabinetry). The perps were geniuses - they used a rented truck with a lift gate (several confirmed it as being a U-Haul but none had any idea of either the trucks ID # or its tag number), initially filled with empty boxes, carried them into the house on dollies, loaded them up with the loot and then put them back onto the truck. Nobody called police the entire weekend and at least a dozen houses were robbed in broad daylight.
 
It does seem that way. In fact, we're rapidly getting to the point where questioning anything a person of color does is suspect. Perhaps it's time to criminalize the questioning of anyone who may be or claims to be of a race other than White.

Hasn't the population been told that if they see anything suspecious they should report it and not try to handle it on their own?

Isn't that what is happening in all these cases?
 
I forgot about the white Hispanics. You're right, it's probably best to just presume that whatever is going on is 100% legit and keep on going about your business.

Yep, best to just leave the detecting up to the detectives - long after the alleged perp is gone.
 
We moved into a new neighborhood (subdivision) and later learned that several as yet unoccupied houses had been robbed (stripped of all appliances and cabinetry). The perps were geniuses - they used a rented truck with a lift gate (several confirmed it as being a U-Haul but none had any idea of either the trucks ID # or its tag number), initially filled with empty boxes, carried them into the house on dollies, loaded them up with the loot and then put them back onto the truck. Nobody called police the entire weekend and at least a dozen houses were robbed in broad daylight.

I always admire smart thieves. A theft where not one person gets harmed physically is at some level more kind and thoughtful. Doesn't mean I don't want them to get caught, and locked up for a long time, but credit goes to them IMO.
 
Hmm...



perhaps reading the OP link might help.

Don't ya just hate that when people post an OP, link and all, they rebut without reading it.
 
I always admire smart thieves. A theft where not one person gets harmed physically is at some level more kind and thoughtful. Doesn't mean I don't want them to get caught, and locked up for a long time, but credit goes to them IMO.

Yep, everyone knows that the best way to case a neighborhood is to use a hard hat, sunglasses, dust mask, safety vest and a clipboard. If ever asked what you are up to, simply state that you are doing a routine environmental survey that usually takes only about 90 minutes to complete and even the most curious will suddenly remember something urgent that they must attend to.
 
Not knowing our neighbors? Are we supposed to know everyone in our voting district now? If I see someone "canvassing" my neighbors houses for unknown reasons I become suspicious. Now if she knocks on my door and I see it's about an upcoming election I relax. If I see a trusted neighbor open their door and chat with her for a moment without raising an alarm (watching her walk away or some other overt action) I also relax.

We are taught, "If we see something, say something." So what are you to do?

People who campaign go door to door. Fact. Now how many threats go door to door, talk to those at home and go next door, talk to them, then go to the next house.
 
Now let's hear why that person called the police.

she didn't need a shoe shine, so there was no good reason for a black person to be at her door


what did i win?
 
Hasn't the population been told that if they see anything suspecious they should report it and not try to handle it on their own?

Isn't that what is happening in all these cases?

It's all getting horribly blown out of proportion. Every neighborhood has a nosy neighbor and no neighborhood is immune from burglary or other crimes. I've also had "salesmen" and "canvassers" come by my door that, I suspect, were checking out houses. I'm also one of those guys who will walk up and ask you how you're doing if I see you around my house or place of business and you don't look like you have an obvious reason for being there. Furthermore, if I ask you how you're doing and I don't get an answer I like there's a good bet I'll be keeping an eye on you until I have a good reason not to. Maybe I've pissed some legitimate people off by doing that but I've also seen plenty of folks I say hello to in that way skedaddle on out of the area.

Granted, not everyone is comfortable walking up to someone they don't know and I can totally understand that but it shouldn't be a problem to walk or drive by, wave and give a sincere "Howdy!". If, after doing that, you get ignored or get the stink eye THEN you may want to pay a little more attention. I don't necessarily recommend getting yourself worked into a tizzy and calling the cops as a first option.
 
People who campaign go door to door. Fact. Now how many threats go door to door, talk to those at home and go next door, talk to them, then go to the next house.
We had a "window replacement" scam artist come to my town, the guy rings the bell, tells you your windows are old and outdated and being they are working in the area will cut you a deep discount if you order windows through them that day.

They were sizing up the home owners, seeing how was old and not fully in charge, gaining access and robbing them with diversionary tactics. I called the cops on the guy when he rang my bell and I told him to screw off with his scam, he went next door to my old lady neighbor, that's when I pulled out my cell phone and made the call, the guy took off running.
 
Yep, everyone knows that the best way to case a neighborhood is to use a hard hat, sunglasses, dust mask, safety vest and a clipboard. If ever asked what you are up to, simply state that you are doing a routine environmental survey that usually takes only about 90 minutes to complete and even the most curious will suddenly remember something urgent that they must attend to.

Depends on the neighborhood. Out here in Tucson we've got a couple of neighborhoods where a story like that will turn you into the Pied Piper. You'll have half a dozen "helpers" following you around pointing out everything that's an environmental concern for them. Heck, you'd be lucky to get out of the area in 90 minutes. They'd likely keep you there the whole day just to make sure you didn't miss anything.
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk...-police-were-called-she-knocked-doors-n888916

State Rep. Janelle Bynum said the 911 caller was apologetic and said she did it for the safety of her neighborhood.

CLACKAMAS, Ore. — A black Oregon lawmaker says one of her constituents called police as she canvassed a Portland-area neighborhood that she represents.

State Rep. Janelle Bynum, who is running for re-election this fall, said she was knocking on doors, talking to residents and taking notes on her cellphone in Clackamas on Tuesday when a Clackamas County sheriff's deputy showed up.
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This trend of 'calling the cops on black people' seems to be reaching epidemic proportions.

One of the most liberal cities in Multnomah County.
 
Not knowing our neighbors? Are we supposed to know everyone in our voting district now? If I see someone "canvassing" my neighbors houses for unknown reasons I become suspicious. Now if she knocks on my door and I see it's about an upcoming election I relax. If I see a trusted neighbor open their door and chat with her for a moment without raising an alarm (watching her walk away or some other overt action) I also relax.

We are taught, "If we see something, say something." So what are you to do?

Go up to them and strike a.conversation, see if your fears are founded or not.
 
Depends on the neighborhood. Out here in Tucson we've got a couple of neighborhoods where a story like that will turn you into the Pied Piper. You'll have half a dozen "helpers" following you around pointing out everything that's an environmental concern for them. Heck, you'd be lucky to get out of the area in 90 minutes. They'd likely keep you there the whole day just to make sure you didn't miss anything.

Maybe, yet for every one of those there would likely be one that rushes off, on that urgent errand, leaving their house unlocked and unattended. ;)
 
Hmm...



perhaps reading the OP link might help.

It's a common tactic among "travelers" to get access to people's homes. Pose as a political candidate/carpet cleaners/new window salesperson to get people to open their homes up and then case the place for valuables.
 
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