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Teen Taken at U.S. Border Tells of ‘Icebox’ Cages With 60 Girls

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A 15-year-old girl who was forcibly separated from her mother after fleeing to the U.S. from El Salvador described to a Washington State investigator how she was crammed into a windowless room with 60 other girls and deprived of proper sleep or food for three days.

The room was divided by wire fencing into three cages, with each one holding 20 separated girls -- some as young as 3 years old, according to an affidavit filed late Monday in federal court in Seattle. The girls, who weren’t told when they’d see their parents again, called it the "icebox."

"The place was freezing because they kept the air conditioner on all the time, and each child was given a mat and an aluminum blanket," the investigator for Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson wrote. "The girls placed their mats in the floor very close to one another, since there was not enough space."

The affidavit is part of a lawsuit by 17 states and the District of Columbia that seeks to block the child-separation policy on constitutional grounds. The states on Monday asked the court to order the government to begin quickly turning over evidence.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-s-border-tells-of-icebox-cages-with-60-girls

Thoughts....
 
Womp womp
 
ajn678 said:
Womp womp
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You want more?
"The states have repeatedly demanded basic information about their well-being, but were answered with silence," according to the filing.

More than 2,000 children were taken under the Trump administration’s zero-tolerance policy for prosecuting illegal border crossings and sent to states across the U.S. President Donald Trump issued an executive order to halt the practice started by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, but the directive may conflict with the zero-tolerance policy. The administration, which hasn’t yet answered the suit, didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

The girl from El Salvador, identified as "G" in the filing, said agents kicked their mats daily at 4 a.m. to count them, and woke them again for meager meals. The guards refused to provide comfort to the youngest detainees and wouldn’t allow them to make phone calls, according to the filing.
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Fletch said:
Maybe their parents shouldnt have brought their kids along when they decided to enter our country illegally. And who ever heard of air conditioning...in south Texas...in July?
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They didn’t have a choice

Maricela Batres, a mother from El Salvador whose 8-year-old son was taken in May, described in another affidavit how she fled to the U.S. after the MS-13 gang threatened to kill them if she didn’t pay $300 a month as “rent" for the store she ran -- money she didn’t have.

Immigration agents detained Batres and her son at the border and put them in what she called a "kennel," where they slept on the ground with aluminum blankets. That’s when she and others were informed their children would be taken away, she said.

"One said, ‘It is the price to pay for crossing the border,”’ she said.
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Unitedwestand13 said:
Thoughts....
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Obviously, the DoJ and CBP do not possess the proper facilities for incarcerating children.

A federal judge has already ordered that separated families be reunited on a specific timescale.
 
Fletch said:
Maybe their parents shouldnt have brought their kids along when they decided to enter our country illegally. And who ever heard of air conditioning...in south Texas...in July?
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I really feel sorry for that kid in your avatar ...........
 
RetiredUSN said:
I was crammed into a tiny space for with 150 other guys for years.
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did you volunteer to be crammed into a tiny space with 150 other guys for years, or did you get drafted?

if you enlisted then that was your choice .........
 
cuban smokes said:
did you volunteer to be crammed into a tiny space with 150 other guys for years, or did you get drafted?

if you enlisted then that was your choice .........
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That's right, it was.

I didn't have to break any laws to do it either.
 
What I don't understand is why doesn't Mexico take these people in? They have similar languages and cultures and they would probably integrate better into their society than hiding illegally in America. According to their new president its a right for people to live anywhere they want, so why don't they start opening their borders for them?
 
I guess her parents should have entered at a port of entry instead of between ports of entry.

Usually the chain link fence "cages" are holding cells in processing centers where the recently detained illegals await further processing.

A side note: Immigration Judges are not Article III judges but Administrative Law Judges (the difference between an Administrative Law Judge and an Administrative Judge is the former has actually passed a bar exam). In other words they are administrative hearing officers. They cannot even hold people in contempt.

Not sure what current law is since I do not read 8 C.F.R. to pass the time of day but it used to be that those facing deportation had several forms of relief available:

Cancellation of Removal for Lawful Permanent Residents
Cancellation of removal for non-Lawful Permanent Residents (no green card)
Relief under the Convention Against Torture (CAT)
Asylum
 
ajn678 said:
What I don't understand is why doesn't Mexico take these people in? They have similar languages and cultures and they would probably integrate better into their society than hiding illegally in America. According to their new president its a right for people to live anywhere they want, so why don't they start opening their borders for them?
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Oh Noooooo!

It's all the rage to make the USA take them in.

Just ask any panty waste liberal.
 
DLLS said:
I guess her parents should have entered at a port of entry instead of between ports of entry.
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Those entering at Ports of Entry seeking asylum were detained. That is how the preponderance were detained.

Under "zero-tolerance", there was no distinction.
 
RetiredUSN said:
I was crammed into a tiny space for with 150 other guys for years.
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unlike you, these were kids who neither volunteered nor got paid for the experience
 
RetiredUSN said:
I was crammed into a tiny space for with 150 other guys for years.
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ajn678 said:
What I don't understand is why doesn't Mexico take these people in? They have similar languages and cultures and they would probably integrate better into their society than hiding illegally in America. According to their new president its a right for people to live anywhere they want, so why don't they start opening their borders for them?
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If Mexico would control their Southern border the U.S. would not have quite so many people to deal with at our Southern border.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Those entering at Ports of Entry seeking asylum were detained. That is how the preponderance were detained.

Under "zero-tolerance", there was no distinction.
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Zero tolerance applies to those breaking the law. Entering at a port of entry and claiming asylum is not breaking the law. Perhaps the reporter did not have his facts straight. Not saying a reporter would make up a story, just that perhaps he did not have his facts straight.
 
justabubba said:
unlike you, these were kids who neither volunteered nor got paid for the experience
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Wonder how many of the kids the parents had to drag kicking and screaming across the border illegally, Or just maybe they voluntarily followed their parents.:mrgreen:

In the end the parents are responsible for the predictiment the children are in. No illegal entry, no separation. Problem solved.
 
mike2810 said:
Wonder how many of the kids the parents had to drag kicking and screaming across the border illegally, Or just maybe they voluntarily followed their parents.:mrgreen:

In the end the parents are responsible for the predictiment the children are in. No illegal entry, no separation. Problem solved.
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between being a constant target of MS13 or seeking asylum in the USA, the parents made a very sound, adult decision
unfortunately, tRump and jefferson sessions did not
 
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