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In 1856, a Congressman killed a waiter over breakfast

Jack Hays

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For those who think our current lack of civility is unprecedented, think again. Our Republic has survived worse, and will survive our present difficulties. Btw, the Congressman got away with it, as you'll see in the article.



Philemon T. Herbert sauntered into the Willard Hotel in search of breakfast. Then things got weird.
It was a little after 11 a.m. on May 8, 1856, when the famished congressman, a first-term Democrat from California, strolled into the hotel’s dining room. After ordering breakfast, Herbert left to buy a couple of newspapers. When he returned, he found part of the meal he ordered but was told the hotel office would have to approve serving a complete breakfast at that hour, according to the Washington Evening Star.
Described by a San Francisco newspaper as a gambler who turned to politics “to better his position,” the compact, muscular Herbert exuded menace. On this day, hunger apparently pushed him over the edge. Infuriated, Herbert launched a stream of invective at the lad who served him.
“Clear out, you Irish son-of-a-b—-,” Herbert yelled, according to the Star. Then he turned and challenged Thomas Keating, one of the waiters in the dining room. “And you, you damned Irish son-of-a-b—-, clear out too!”
Name-calling quickly gave way to violence. Fists and plates flew as Herbert’s companion struck Keating’s brother, who also worked at the hotel, with a chair. Herbert grabbed Keating by the collar, produced a Derringer and held the gun at Keating’s chest.
The lawmaker pulled the trigger. The bullet pierced Keating’s lungs, and the waiter died within minutes as Herbert and his fellow diner fled out the hotel’s 14th Street exit, the Star reported.
Political tension is particularly taut these days on Capitol Hill, but it is nothing like the volatile world of pre-Civil War Washington, where lawmakers routinely dueled and brawled. Even then, the shooting of a waiter by a member of Congress was regarded as beyond the pale. “Of course there is no excuse for the murder in the circumstances of the case,” the New York Tribune declared.
It may have been inexcusable, but it was a sign of the times. The incident occurred weeks before a more notorious confrontation in which South Carolina Rep. Preston Brooks beat Sen. Charles Sumner of Massachusetts senseless on the Senate floor after Sumner called Southerners flocking to support slaveholders in Kansas the “drunken spew and vomit of an uneasy civilization.” Anti-immigrant sentiment, manifested in a secret society whose members pledged to say they “know nothing” about its activities, was rampant. . . . .
 
Yes, Brooks beat Sumner nearly to death right there on the Senate floor.
 
From Battlefields.org:

Newspaper headlines shocked readers in late May 1856 with descriptions of a violent attack within the United States Capitol Building. Preston S. Brooks had nearly bludgeoned Charles Sumner to death. “Cowardly assault upon Senator Sumner,” declared the Hartford (Connecticut) Courant. The Edgefield (South Carolina) Advertiser simply referred to the incident as “Mr. Brooks’ chastisement of Senator Sumner,” while an Alabama newspaper opined, “Sumner has been needing something of the sort since the first day he put his foot into the Senate chamber.” The wide variety of reactions illustrated the growing sectional differences and foreshadowed the rising violence that culminated five years later with the outbreak of the American Civil War. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/caning-charles-sumner
 
Republicans have been unruly for as long as there have been Republicans, but "back in the day," they were at least civilized about it.


 
Republicans have been unruly for as long as there have been Republicans, but "back in the day," they were at least civilized about it.

Congressman Herbert and Congressman Brooks (above) were both Democrats.
 
For those who think our current lack of civility is unprecedented, think again. Our Republic has survived worse, and will survive our present difficulties. Btw, the Congressman got away with it, as you'll see in the article.



Philemon T. Herbert sauntered into the Willard Hotel in search of breakfast. Then things got weird.
It was a little after 11 a.m. on May 8, 1856, when the famished congressman, a first-term Democrat from California, strolled into the hotel’s dining room. After ordering breakfast, Herbert left to buy a couple of newspapers. When he returned, he found part of the meal he ordered but was told the hotel office would have to approve serving a complete breakfast at that hour, according to the Washington Evening Star.
Described by a San Francisco newspaper as a gambler who turned to politics “to better his position,” the compact, muscular Herbert exuded menace. On this day, hunger apparently pushed him over the edge. Infuriated, Herbert launched a stream of invective at the lad who served him.
“Clear out, you Irish son-of-a-b—-,” Herbert yelled, according to the Star. Then he turned and challenged Thomas Keating, one of the waiters in the dining room. “And you, you damned Irish son-of-a-b—-, clear out too!”
Name-calling quickly gave way to violence. Fists and plates flew as Herbert’s companion struck Keating’s brother, who also worked at the hotel, with a chair. Herbert grabbed Keating by the collar, produced a Derringer and held the gun at Keating’s chest.
The lawmaker pulled the trigger. The bullet pierced Keating’s lungs, and the waiter died within minutes as Herbert and his fellow diner fled out the hotel’s 14th Street exit, the Star reported.
Political tension is particularly taut these days on Capitol Hill, but it is nothing like the volatile world of pre-Civil War Washington, where lawmakers routinely dueled and brawled. Even then, the shooting of a waiter by a member of Congress was regarded as beyond the pale. “Of course there is no excuse for the murder in the circumstances of the case,” the New York Tribune declared.
It may have been inexcusable, but it was a sign of the times. The incident occurred weeks before a more notorious confrontation in which South Carolina Rep. Preston Brooks beat Sen. Charles Sumner of Massachusetts senseless on the Senate floor after Sumner called Southerners flocking to support slaveholders in Kansas the “drunken spew and vomit of an uneasy civilization.” Anti-immigrant sentiment, manifested in a secret society whose members pledged to say they “know nothing” about its activities, was rampant. . . . .

Greetings, Jack. :2wave:

:wow: :afraid: :beam:
 
For those who think our current lack of civility is unprecedented, think again. Our Republic has survived worse, and will survive our present difficulties. Btw, the Congressman got away with it, as you'll see in the article

True. And it's not just the United States. Here is a full knock-down, drag-out fight in the Japanese parliament:



Pakistani Parliament:



Here is a great compilation of parliamentary brawls all over the world:

 
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True. And it's not just the United States. Here is a full knock-down, drag-out fight in the Japanese parliament:



Pakistani Parliament:



Here is a great compilation of parliamentary brawls all over the world:

We need more of those.
 
For those who think our current lack of civility is unprecedented, think again. Our Republic has survived worse, and will survive our present difficulties. Btw, the Congressman got away with it, as you'll see in the article.



Philemon T. Herbert sauntered into the Willard Hotel in search of breakfast. Then things got weird.
It was a little after 11 a.m. on May 8, 1856, when the famished congressman, a first-term Democrat from California, strolled into the hotel’s dining room. After ordering breakfast, Herbert left to buy a couple of newspapers. When he returned, he found part of the meal he ordered but was told the hotel office would have to approve serving a complete breakfast at that hour, according to the Washington Evening Star.
Described by a San Francisco newspaper as a gambler who turned to politics “to better his position,” the compact, muscular Herbert exuded menace. On this day, hunger apparently pushed him over the edge. Infuriated, Herbert launched a stream of invective at the lad who served him.
“Clear out, you Irish son-of-a-b—-,” Herbert yelled, according to the Star. Then he turned and challenged Thomas Keating, one of the waiters in the dining room. “And you, you damned Irish son-of-a-b—-, clear out too!”
Name-calling quickly gave way to violence. Fists and plates flew as Herbert’s companion struck Keating’s brother, who also worked at the hotel, with a chair. Herbert grabbed Keating by the collar, produced a Derringer and held the gun at Keating’s chest.
The lawmaker pulled the trigger. The bullet pierced Keating’s lungs, and the waiter died within minutes as Herbert and his fellow diner fled out the hotel’s 14th Street exit, the Star reported.
Political tension is particularly taut these days on Capitol Hill, but it is nothing like the volatile world of pre-Civil War Washington, where lawmakers routinely dueled and brawled. Even then, the shooting of a waiter by a member of Congress was regarded as beyond the pale. “Of course there is no excuse for the murder in the circumstances of the case,” the New York Tribune declared.
It may have been inexcusable, but it was a sign of the times. The incident occurred weeks before a more notorious confrontation in which South Carolina Rep. Preston Brooks beat Sen. Charles Sumner of Massachusetts senseless on the Senate floor after Sumner called Southerners flocking to support slaveholders in Kansas the “drunken spew and vomit of an uneasy civilization.” Anti-immigrant sentiment, manifested in a secret society whose members pledged to say they “know nothing” about its activities, was rampant. . . . .

We are hopefully not returning to the "good old days". We have a lot more to lose now due to external threats that people are too busy with chicken **** protests to notice.
 
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