Can you point to one real lie Trump told, with the exact quote and link?

itsforthekids · Jul 17, 2018

jbander said:
Ya as soon as we get rid of you and your hate party there will be single payer, There is not one Developed country in the world that doesn't have it other then us. We don't have it simply because there have been to many of you haters in our country but that will be changing real fast after the disaster of trying it your way for the lat 1 + year.

Single payer sucks. It's a fraud. The whole thing is set up in order to maintain control over a population. Most of us are far too intelligent to fall for that 3rd grade mentality.

itsforthekids · Jul 17, 2018

jbander said:
Even Fox crap news poll says that 54% support Obama care and 42% opposed it. Just needs to be put in here to show everyone that you have no clue what your talking about. That should make that point.

When you have an socialist, adoring media perpetrating the lie a million times a day, it would be difficult not to have stupid people believe it. And that's just what they are...ignorant morons.

ultmd · Jul 17, 2018

:lamo

I'm trying to recall another instance in which I've seen some many different people jump in, separately over several weeks, a literally take turns disemboweling an argument from a single individual.

This guy Rob is funny to watch. He has no shame, which is a good thing (for him). Most people who lose argument after argument would get depressed, but not Rob. :lamo

He thinks he's winning.

He's like Trump's doppleganger.

Rob Larrikin · Jul 17, 2018

Lursa said:
He was lying.

So you’re accusing Obama, the Queen, Elvis, etc of being liars. If lying is what all stars, billionaires and POTUS’ do, why single out Trump?

He was pretending to be someone else.

Or die? It’s not much of a choice.

He told them a different name....a lie.

You’ve heard of ‘not waving but drowning’? People who walk along the beach, thinking the drowning victim is just waving hello, are similar to people who think that being forced to use a pseudonym to save the lives of your wife or children is “lying”. Essentially they haven’t thought it through. Let’s call them the ‘Griswolds’. Clark Griswold and his cousin Eddie are sitting on the sofa watching TV and they see a report about an American marine held hostage in Iraq. A terrorist puts a gun to the captured marine’s head and orders him to tell the camera that all Americans are filthy cowards, which the marine does. Eddie lurches up and yells, “Liar! He’s a goddammed traitor and a liar! I hope they shoot the bastard!”
Clark takes a sip of his beer and says, “Easy there Eddie. After all, he has a gun to his head.”
“Don’t care!” shouts Cousin Eddie, spilling some beer on Clark. “He should have his head cut off for telling such lies!”
“Uh Eddie,” Clark says, brushing the beer off his pants, “If he’s forced to say those words to save his life, he’s not really lying is he? I mean, give the guy a break.”

We’ll leave the Griswolds there to argue, but apparently you agree with Cousin Eddie.

Rob Larrikin · Jul 17, 2018

Ikari said:
"If I win I may never see my property -- I may never see these places again," Trump said at an August 2016 campaign event. "But because I'm going to be working for you, I'm not going to have time to go golfing, believe me. Believe me. Believe me, folks."

lol, from the President who golfs far more frequently than Obama ever did.

Trump had a list of plans when he was campaigning. One plan was that, as POTUS, he would not play golf. As a businessman he had much to learn in his transition to politician. One of the things he would learn is that some of his plans would have to change.

When he played golf as POTUS you and the rest of the Trump haters were quick to accuse him of lying. There is no doubt his doctors and advisors would have worked hard to persuade him to continue playing golf for his health and figure. Trump would not be easy to convince. They may have even gathered in a group to persuade him. If so the conversation probably went like this:

Scene: Donald Trump enters the oval office with campaign manager, Corey.

Donald: Well hello, I didn’t know you were going to be here, Melania. What’s this all about?
Melania: We’re here to provide you an intervention, darling.
Doctor 1: [chuckling] Well, it’s not really an intervention, but then again…
Advisor 1: It’s about golf, sir.
Melania: You need it darling.
Donald: Golf? I promised I wouldn’t play as President…
Advisor 2: That’s the problem sir. Your golf is important for your health.
Donald: I must have promised I wouldn’t play a million times. How will I live that down?
Doctor 2: It’s just one of those things Mr. President. You have to put your health first.
Donald: What’s wrong with my health?
Advisor 4: You’re putting on weight sir, and it could cause heart problems…
Donald: I’m as strong as an ox! What weight? I can deal with that.
Melania: I noticed you’ve put on weight.
Doctor 1: She’s right sir. You have. And you’re 72, and under a lot of stress.
Doctor 2: It can be a slippery slope sir. Once it gets away from you it’s very hard to fix.
Advisor 1: The golf will help keep you trim sir.
Donald: [sits down] But like I say, I promised…
Corey: That’s okay sir – sometimes in this job a promise has to be broken.
Donald: [Facepalms and sighs] Man…Fake News will have a field day calling me a liar.
Advisor 2: True, but they’ll do that no matter what you do, so what’s the difference?
Melania: Darling, will you do it for me?
Donald: Well, I…
Advisor 3: Sir, you can still do your work while playing golf.
Melania: And you didn’t know about this when you made the promise. You were a businessman then…
Doctor 2: You meant what you said sir, so that’ not a lie.
Donald: I guess so, but they’ll never swallow that.
Advisor 4: You’ve been advised that it is very important to change your mind about this issue, for your health’s sake.
Donald: Can I tell the people that?
Advisor 1: No sir, that would not be a good idea.
Melania: Why not?
Advisor 2: Fake News will start a campaign that you’re unhealthy.
Donald: So what do I say then?
Advisor 3: Don’t say anything sir.
Melania: Darling, I want you to be slim and healthy. Not fat.
Doctor 2: You should take her advice sir.
Donald: Okay, if you all think so. I’ll do it, but I hate it.

Headlines soon after:

TRUMP LIES! TRUMP LIES! HE’S PLAYING GOLF! LIAR! LIAR!

Now let’s switch to your grandfather, and let’s say he’s 72. He tells you he’s going to have a stomach operation to lose weight. He tells you this for about a year, going on and on about it. Finally the New Year comes and you ask him, “So grandfather, when’s the operation?”
“What operation?” he asks.
“You know,” you reply. “The one to lose weight – where they tie a loop around your stomach or something.”
“Too expensive,” he grunts. “Turns out it’s way more expensive than I thought it would be. Can’t do it now. Will just have to diet instead.”

Do you jump up and screech “LIAR! LIAR! YOU SAID YOU’D HAVE THE OPERATION! LIAR! LIAR!”? A grandson who did that would be considered a lowly wretch by most folk. Yet you’re happy to do that with your President.

Seriously, don’t millennials know any shame?

Summary: No lie. Changing your mind on the advice of doctors is not “lying”. We all change our minds daily or weekly about lots of stuff.

KerouacJack · Jul 17, 2018

Rob Larrikin said:
So you’re accusing Obama, the Queen, Elvis, etc of being liars. If lying is what all stars, billionaires and POTUS’ do, why single out Trump?

Or die? It’s not much of a choice.

You’ve heard of ‘not waving but drowning’? People who walk along the beach, thinking the drowning victim is just waving hello, are similar to people who think that being forced to use a pseudonym to save the lives of your wife or children is “lying”. Essentially they haven’t thought it through. Let’s call them the ‘Griswolds’. Clark Griswold and his cousin Eddie are sitting on the sofa watching TV and they see a report about an American marine held hostage in Iraq. A terrorist puts a gun to the captured marine’s head and orders him to tell the camera that all Americans are filthy cowards, which the marine does. Eddie lurches up and yells, “Liar! He’s a goddammed traitor and a liar! I hope they shoot the bastard!”
Clark takes a sip of his beer and says, “Easy there Eddie. After all, he has a gun to his head.”
“Don’t care!” shouts Cousin Eddie, spilling some beer on Clark. “He should have his head cut off for telling such lies!”
“Uh Eddie,” Clark says, brushing the beer off his pants, “If he’s forced to say those words to save his life, he’s not really lying is he? I mean, give the guy a break.”

We’ll leave the Griswolds there to argue, but apparently you agree with Cousin Eddie.

Point of order here ye dill bogan. You didn't actually prove it wasn't a lie just that you don't think lying to save yourself is wrong. Also how you can possibly compare that to Trump's situation....

jbander · Jul 17, 2018

itsforthekids said:
I wouldn't want to be a part of your world...it sounds horrific.

I know your totally opposed to my believes. I believe in conscience, I believe in all people regardless of the sex wealth or nationality. I care about other people in the world other then myself , if you claim to be a Christian and you claim to be hate party supporter or a scum bag supporter , you a fake Christian, not a real one. No real Christian supports Scum Bag. Your right everything that you believe in from the hate to the bigotry I'm opposed to but I'm a Patriot and my hate will always go to any enemy of my country or any threat to my country. That would be you buddy. You are without a doubt this country's biggest threat and enemy. You all have to go and you will but I'm tired of waiting.

jbander · Jul 17, 2018

itsforthekids said:
When you have an socialist, adoring media perpetrating the lie a million times a day, it would be difficult not to have stupid people believe it. And that's just what they are...ignorant morons.

Anyone at all have a clue on this one. He seems to be frothing at the mouth but I'm not sure, anyone?

jbander · Jul 17, 2018

Again I have to ask if anyone reads what this guy writes Bozo larken or whatever his name is. I've have tried but it dissolves into irrational nonsense that it's just hard to follow. And everyone going into this knows he has no clue, you can't make a statement the oposite of the truth and then try to back your bull**** with lies , make believe and gibberish. I have to admit I'm following this also , can't read much of it , it loses any form of sense in its first couple of words but I still find my self intrigued by someone that needs to sell his lie, like if he doesn't his mom will die, there is just something intriguing about this lack of humility. Or the degree that insanity takes some people to.

Ikari · Jul 17, 2018

Rob Larrikin said:
Trump had a list of plans when he was campaigning. One plan was that, as POTUS, he would not play golf. As a businessman he had much to learn in his transition to politician. One of the things he would learn is that some of his plans would have to change.

When he played golf as POTUS you and the rest of the Trump haters were quick to accuse him of lying. There is no doubt his doctors and advisors would have worked hard to persuade him to continue playing golf for his health and figure. Trump would not be easy to convince. They may have even gathered in a group to persuade him. If so the conversation probably went like this:

Scene: Donald Trump enters the oval office with campaign manager, Corey.

Donald: Well hello, I didn’t know you were going to be here, Melania. What’s this all about?
Melania: We’re here to provide you an intervention, darling.
Doctor 1: [chuckling] Well, it’s not really an intervention, but then again…
Advisor 1: It’s about golf, sir.
Melania: You need it darling.
Donald: Golf? I promised I wouldn’t play as President…
Advisor 2: That’s the problem sir. Your golf is important for your health.
Donald: I must have promised I wouldn’t play a million times. How will I live that down?
Doctor 2: It’s just one of those things Mr. President. You have to put your health first.
Donald: What’s wrong with my health?
Advisor 4: You’re putting on weight sir, and it could cause heart problems…
Donald: I’m as strong as an ox! What weight? I can deal with that.
Melania: I noticed you’ve put on weight.
Doctor 1: She’s right sir. You have. And you’re 72, and under a lot of stress.
Doctor 2: It can be a slippery slope sir. Once it gets away from you it’s very hard to fix.
Advisor 1: The golf will help keep you trim sir.
Donald: [sits down] But like I say, I promised…
Corey: That’s okay sir – sometimes in this job a promise has to be broken.
Donald: [Facepalms and sighs] Man…Fake News will have a field day calling me a liar.
Advisor 2: True, but they’ll do that no matter what you do, so what’s the difference?
Melania: Darling, will you do it for me?
Donald: Well, I…
Advisor 3: Sir, you can still do your work while playing golf.
Melania: And you didn’t know about this when you made the promise. You were a businessman then…
Doctor 2: You meant what you said sir, so that’ not a lie.
Donald: I guess so, but they’ll never swallow that.
Advisor 4: You’ve been advised that it is very important to change your mind about this issue, for your health’s sake.
Donald: Can I tell the people that?
Advisor 1: No sir, that would not be a good idea.
Melania: Why not?
Advisor 2: Fake News will start a campaign that you’re unhealthy.
Donald: So what do I say then?
Advisor 3: Don’t say anything sir.
Melania: Darling, I want you to be slim and healthy. Not fat.
Doctor 2: You should take her advice sir.
Donald: Okay, if you all think so. I’ll do it, but I hate it.

Headlines soon after:

TRUMP LIES! TRUMP LIES! HE’S PLAYING GOLF! LIAR! LIAR!

Now let’s switch to your grandfather, and let’s say he’s 72. He tells you he’s going to have a stomach operation to lose weight. He tells you this for about a year, going on and on about it. Finally the New Year comes and you ask him, “So grandfather, when’s the operation?”
“What operation?” he asks.
“You know,” you reply. “The one to lose weight – where they tie a loop around your stomach or something.”
“Too expensive,” he grunts. “Turns out it’s way more expensive than I thought it would be. Can’t do it now. Will just have to diet instead.”

Do you jump up and screech “LIAR! LIAR! YOU SAID YOU’D HAVE THE OPERATION! LIAR! LIAR!”? A grandson who did that would be considered a lowly wretch by most folk. Yet you’re happy to do that with your President.

Seriously, don’t millennials know any shame?

Summary: No lie. Changing your mind on the advice of doctors is not “lying”. We all change our minds daily or weekly about lots of stuff.

That's some interesting mental gymnastics to get around the fact that Trump said he would not golf when President, and yet does so far more frequently than Obama. Whom he chastised for having golfed so much.

lol

jbander · Jul 17, 2018

itsforthekids said:
Single payer sucks. It's a fraud. The whole thing is set up in order to maintain control over a population. Most of us are far too intelligent to fall for that 3rd grade mentality.

Ya and your smarter then everyone else in all civilized wold, the industrial world because all those countries have Single payer. ONly one that doesn't is this country and your saying it's because your so smart. That is cute. It's amazing what people will say when they know they are losing in a debate with others. Love it.

4th Down · Jul 17, 2018

jbander said:
Anyone at all have a clue on this one. He seems to be frothing at the mouth but I'm not sure, anyone?

To start with..."an socialist" provides the first clue..."a million times a day" provides the second clue. The answer is like always..."ignorant morons". It sums it up. Too bad that sometimes when we see evil things we see what we think we are. Perhaps?

jbander · Jul 17, 2018

4th Down said:
To start with..."an socialist" provides the first clue..."a million times a day" provides the second clue. The answer is like always..."ignorant morons". It sums it up. Too bad that sometimes when we see evil things we see what we think we are. Perhaps?

Ya I've noticed this change everywhere that this hate group populates. They are bigots , haters, homophobes, Chauvinists, Islamophobia , they hate our government and hate the needy. even they understand that those points have truth buried in them so to counteract that by saying now ,all us liberals are now all those ugly things that they are , I guess to try to get one step ahead of reality hitting them. But I'm not quite sure on that quite yet, I'll figure it out after a while ,

Rob Larrikin · Jul 18, 2018

upsideguy said:
Last week, on three different occasions he told audiences that he was the 1st to win Wisconsin since Eisenhower.

Dealt with the Eisenhower issue many times in this thread. It looks like there’s Sum Ting Wong again. See posts #472 and #648

My other "favorite" Trump lie

You haven’t supplied a lie yet, so let’s hope this one is a lie.

is his people in California vote many times... millions of millions of people.

Let’s take a look. Trump made some remarks at a Roundtable Discussion on tax reform on April 5, 2018, at the White Sulphur Springs Civic Center, West Virginia.

He spoke about 5,500 words. I’ll paste a tiny part of that – about one percent. Emphasis mine:

A lot of times it doesn’t matter, because in many places, like California, the same person votes many times. (Laughter.) You probably heard about that. They always like to say, “Oh, that’s a conspiracy theory.” Not a conspiracy theory, folks. Millions and millions of people. And it’s very hard because the state guards their records. They don’t want to see it.

Here’s the same quote butchered by Fake News (politifake):

In many places, like California, the same person votes many times. You probably heard about that. They always like to say 'oh that's a conspiracy theory.' Not a conspiracy theory, folks. Millions and millions of people.

Once again there is no ellipsis or lowercase letter at the start – instead, a capital ‘I’ that makes it look like the sentence began with “In” instead of “A”. The first eight words, “A lot of times it doesn’t matter, because…” are missing. This makes it appear there was no other conversation this was stemming from. They left out the reference to audience laughter. They left out the comma after ‘say’ and made ‘Oh’ lowercase (bad grammar), and they left out the last two sentences, “And it’s very hard because the state guards their records. They don’t want to see it.”

There was a reason Fake News left out the last two sentences. They didn’t want you to know that Trump’s whole argument is that the State do this deliberately and won’t let you see their records, and they don’t want [you] to see them.

If California was not doing what Trump says, it would be a perfect opportunity to release those records so we can all see. Even then they’ll probably be faked. Faking data is something Socialists are very good at. So the question is, why don’t they? It would be a great way for them to embarrass Trump, which they would love to do. So why not? Because the records would show they let many illegals vote – probably millions.

Regardless – this is Trump’s opinion. See the OP:

Rob Larrikin said:
And remember, a “view” or a “belief” is not a lie. Trump might say he believes in Zeus, and you might say that’s a lie. You would be using the wrong word. He might be wrong about something, but if he believed it when he said it, it is not a lie. For instance, if he boasted that he was the greatest POTUS ever, that’s not a lie. He believes he is. So do I. Another thing that is not a lie is an exaggeration or a joke. If Trump said, “When you’re a star they let you do it… grab ‘em by the *****,” this is not him saying he goes around raping women. That is the hysterical Left’s silly translation. Likewise, if he jokingly said, “Man, we’re gonna be the richest country for a million years,” that is not a lie – it is a harmless piece of joking or kidding around.

upsideguy said:
The best place for the aggregation of Trump lies, constructive lies and other misrepresentations (which are lies) and the truth behind them can be found here..... there are pages of them.

All statements involving Donald Trump | PolitiFact

Fake News.

As per the OP, you need to supply one correctly worded alleged lie, along with a correct link. Tossing links, misquotes, vague diatribe or websites as an answer is Gish Gallop, a fallacious debate tactic that focuses on overwhelming one's opponent with as many arguments as possible, without regard for accuracy or strength of the arguments. This is similar to what shoplifters do, when one distracts the shopkeeper and the other steals the goods. It is a form of distraction to take eyes off the actual argument while the user gets away with a lie.

So if you have a lie, type it out and provide a link. Just one. If you can't do that, what does it say about your so called Trump Lies?

Rob Larrikin · Jul 18, 2018

KerouacJack said:
Point of order here ye dill bogan. You didn't actually prove it wasn't a lie just that you don't think lying to save yourself is wrong.

For a lie to be a lie there has to be intent to deceive. The marine isn’t deceiving anyone when he is forced to say Americans are cowards, by a terrorist with a gun. Everyone knows he is merely being forced to utter some meaningless words, including the terrorist. Who is being deceived? Thus… no lie. Cousin Eddie confuses words that are forced, with ‘lying’, because he doesn’t understand that a liar must have intent to deceive.

Also how you can possibly compare that to Trump's situation....

If you agree the marine was forced, then you have to agree Trump (or Elvis) is also forced to use a pseudonym, because in both cases (the marine and Trump) not saying the words leads to death. That’s force. When you’re forced to say words there is no deception.

Rob Larrikin · Jul 18, 2018

Ikari said:
That's some interesting mental gymnastics to get around the fact that Trump said he would not golf when President, and yet does so far more frequently than Obama. Whom he chastised for having golfed so much.

lol

Let’s say you decide that in a year you will go on a flying holiday around Europe. Let’s say you hate travelling by road, rail or sea, but you love jets. So you tell all and sundry about your plans for this. If your doctors then advised you that going up high in a jet could give you a brain aneurism, and as a result you decided to cancel, would you then call yourself are a liar? If so you have my sympathy. Billions of others change their plans after receiving medical advice all the time, and we just call them normal people.

KerouacJack · Jul 18, 2018

Rob Larrikin said:
For a lie to be a lie there has to be intent to deceive. The marine isn’t deceiving anyone when he is forced to say Americans are cowards, by a terrorist with a gun. Everyone knows he is merely being forced to utter some meaningless words, including the terrorist. Who is being deceived? Thus… no lie. Cousin Eddie confuses words that are forced, with ‘lying’, because he doesn’t understand that a liar must have intent to deceive.

If you agree the marine was forced, then you have to agree Trump (or Elvis) is also forced to use a pseudonym, because in both cases (the marine and Trump) not saying the words leads to death. That’s force. When you’re forced to say words there is no deception.

No Dill Bogan. We have already been over this, you don't need intent to deceive for a statement to be a lie... that interpretation is no where in the definition of the word "lying"... also tell me how trump was forced at gun point to use a pseudonym?

Rob Larrikin · Jul 18, 2018

KerouacJack said:
No Dill Bogan. We have already been over this, you don't need intent to deceive for a statement to be a lie... that interpretation is no where in the definition of the word "lying"...

We did speak of this in #548.

I also discussed it with Somerville in #794:

Rob Larrikin said:
A proper definition would include intentional deceit. Like this:

Lie, lied; lying

to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive

KerouacJack said:
also tell me how trump was forced at gun point to use a pseudonym?

As you know the marine with the gun at his head is still capable of saying, “No, I will not say those words,” in which case the chances are he will probably be tortured or killed. It isn’t absolutely definite, but the chance is very strong. If somebody really hated the marine they could say, “He could have refused, so he is a coward!” However, most people aren’t that harsh. They would agree, as you would, that the marine was “forced” to say the words, even though he could have martyred himself and said, “Up yours,” instead. If you are willing to give this concession to the marine, it stands to reason you would provide the same concession to Elvis since he stands a much higher chance of being kidnapped or murdered, or both, than most of us, if he calls up a hotel and books a room under his real name. More importantly, his children might be kidnapped and or murdered, and their chances of survival are increased greatly by his use of a pseudonym. So in the case of the stars, Chance is the gun to their head, and they would be criminally irresponsible if they didn’t protect their kids, and themselves, by using pseudonyms. You must be much younger than I thought, to need this explained to you.

itsforthekids · Jul 18, 2018

jbander said:
I know your totally opposed to my believes. I believe in conscience, I believe in all people regardless of the sex wealth or nationality. I care about other people in the world other then myself , if you claim to be a Christian and you claim to be hate party supporter or a scum bag supporter , you a fake Christian, not a real one. No real Christian supports Scum Bag. Your right everything that you believe in from the hate to the bigotry I'm opposed to but I'm a Patriot and my hate will always go to any enemy of my country or any threat to my country. That would be you buddy. You are without a doubt this country's biggest threat and enemy. You all have to go and you will but I'm tired of waiting.

Noted.

itsforthekids · Jul 18, 2018

jbander said:
Ya and your smarter then everyone else in all civilized wold, the industrial world because all those countries have Single payer. ONly one that doesn't is this country and your saying it's because your so smart. That is cute. It's amazing what people will say when they know they are losing in a debate with others. Love it.

and their systems are failing all over the world. Read about it sometime.

Ikari · Jul 18, 2018

Rob Larrikin said:
Let’s say you decide that in a year you will go on a flying holiday around Europe. Let’s say you hate travelling by road, rail or sea, but you love jets. So you tell all and sundry about your plans for this. If your doctors then advised you that going up high in a jet could give you a brain aneurism, and as a result you decided to cancel, would you then call yourself are a liar? If so you have my sympathy. Billions of others change their plans after receiving medical advice all the time, and we just call them normal people.

lol

OK, whatever you have to tell yourself to pretend that Trump didn't say one thing and then do the exact opposite.

lol

jbander · Jul 18, 2018

itsforthekids said:
and their systems are failing all over the world. Read about it sometime.

Ya sure it is ,the next country in line after us pays 1/2 what we do for the same medical test, medication and care. Boy they are doing it wrong. Right????

jbander · Jul 18, 2018

Sorry buddy it is time to grade your thread here, It is a F of course, Not one person believes you. The Idea of this thread is hilarious to start with, Scum Bag doesn't ever lie , he's just joking all the time.

Lursa · Jul 18, 2018

Rob Larrikin said:
So you’re accusing Obama, the Queen, Elvis, etc of being liars. If lying is what all stars, billionaires and POTUS’ do, why single out Trump?

.

Please provide links to prove that these individuals ever faked their identity and discussed themselves in the third person. (that makes it a clear deception.)

And that's lots of typing to try and keep your head above water in an argument you clearly lost. Didnt even read it all.

Because you are lying in an effort to disprove a lie :mrgreen: Let's see the proof I asked for.

Vox · Jul 18, 2018

Rob Larrikin said:
Many on the left say that Trump lies. Some say he lies all day long, and that he tells thousands of lies per day, and so on. Every time I ask a Lefty to provide proof of one such lie, they go silent. On the odd occasion someone makes a list, but it fails. They rattle off examples from the top of their head instead of providing an exact quote, and they rarely provide links. I look into their allegations only to find there was no such lie. They’ll say that Trump said, “Obama was born in Kenya", and I will point out that in fact it was Obama’s literary agent who said that in an autobiography. Trump then tweeted to Romney, “In debate, @MittRomney should ask Obama why autobiography states "born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia."

So please don’t rattle off lies off the top of your head. Find the exact quote, and provide a link to it. I will then look into it. If I find any genuine proven lies I will agree to them being lies. If I don’t see any proof they will be deemed Fake News.

Trump is an honest man so it’s doubtful you will find any legitimate lies. And remember, a “view” or a “belief” is not a lie. Trump might say he believes in Zeus, and you might say that’s a lie. You would be using the wrong word. He might be wrong about something, but if he believed it when he said it, it is not a lie. For instance, if he boasted that he was the greatest POTUS ever, that’s not a lie. He believes he is. So do I. Another thing that is not a lie is an exaggeration or a joke. If Trump said, “When you’re a star they let you do it… grab ‘em by the *****,” this is not him saying he goes around raping women. That is the hysterical Left’s silly translation. Likewise, if he jokingly said, “Man, we’re gonna be the richest country for a million years,” that is not a lie – it is a harmless piece of joking or kidding around.

Here is the best way to go about this if you wish to try:

1) Calm down. Don’t rush.

2) Be sensible. Go find what you think is a Trump lie. Use Google and Bing.

3) Research it a little. See what other people say. That part is very important.

4) Once you are sure it is a lie, and not just Fake News, present the accurate quote & link.

Good luck, but remember, to qualify you need to provide the EXACT quote, and provide a link to show the alleged lie details. You say he lies so YOU provide PROOF. I will look at that proof and if I see you made mistakes, I will provide details. Any rambling diatribe without links will be deemed Fake News.

LOL!

Trump has exaggerated, hyperbolized, misspoke, given his own opinions as if they were fact and most other sins of public speaking.

I can't think of even one actual lie that he's told.

He does go against popular opinion a lot, but he's usually right.

He hammers people bluntly with the truth.......and that's what we need in a politician for a change.

Can you point to one real lie Trump told, with the exact quote and link?

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