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Steve Schmidt: "My fidelity is to my country, not my political party. Country first."

lurchadams said:
Where's that check from Mexico?
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In the form of tariffs, I would presume.

It was in the article you linked to.
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Okay, so it was in the article. I didn't realize. Do you want to do anything about gun violence?

Not a majority of them.
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Sure he did. Trump received 304 votes to Clinton's 227.

The majority of Americans disapprove of him and have since he was elected.
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He's still doing all the things people elected him to do. I don't think anyone ever argued that the Presidency should be a popularity contest.

Trump isn't one of them. Do you think he knows what the nuclear triad is yet?
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No, I don't. But I think he knows what people want and I think he is smart enough to give it to them.
 
Hedgology said:
Legally, no.

However, it's been done in the past and it's being done for the purpose of implementing the policies people want. Why should there be a problem if people get what they want?
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Because Congress is the Legislature
 
OscarLevant said:
Schmidt is a straight shooter, and an eloquent one at that.
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He's certainly eloquent enough that I had rather more people embraced his ideas found in "Easing into TASC Based Writing." LOL


Kidding aside. Yes. he's an upstanding sort of guy. Indeed, a good share of traditional Republicans (and Democrats) are, given not to availing themselves of the rhetoric of animus to prevail in politics at the expense of the polity or their own probity.
 
OscarLevant said:
The Dem party is a big tent, a guy like Schmidt is welcome. The exodus isn't big enough to effect much of a change, Perez is an establishment guy, anyway, so it's already there.
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Hopefully not so big that it readmits/re-welcomes the haters who left it to join Trump's GOP.....
 
lurchadams said:
So now you've moved the goalposts.
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I haven't moved any goalpost; I simply said I don't remember the quotes that you do.

He's also not the only president to keep a campaign promise.
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You wouldn't know that considering people were willing to pass over the most experienced presidential candidate in history for Donald Trump...

It's apparent that he kept some of them and that you like it, so good for you.
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You've mistaken me; I am not a Trump support. However, I don't have any complaints regarding his Presidency, because he is doing majority of the things people elected him to do, which is how Democracies are intended to operate.
 
veritas1 said:
Trump is a temporary phenomenon. Once he goes, the GOP will drift back to where it was before which, unfortunately, is as simply another bulwark for the establishment. It is that part of the GOP that old time conservatives like Goldwater and Reagan would reject.
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When Trump goes the GOP will be in total disarray, in tatters
 
Mizzy22 said:
Because Congress is the Legislature
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Congress isn't doing its' job; there is a reason why it has the approval rating it has.

Plenty of Presidents have used executive orders; the previous one has conducted plenty of them. Trump should be able to use as many executive orders as he wants.
 
Hedgology said:
If you wish...
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It's like the difference between econometric modeling and empirical economic analysis; the former simply hasn't the same nature and scope of information available.
 
Mizzy22 said:
The GOP base and Trump base are not one and the same!
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I think that most of the Trump base, for years, went with whoever the nominee was because the right was always anti-abortion an pro-gun, and many or a percentage of them probably didn't vote much. I doubt these guys ever voted for dems. But, with Trump, they finally found their champion and they were now emboldened and empowered, with their racism, misogyny (or at least tolerancnce of it in Trump), hatred of the left, to be much more visible. They were always there.
 
Hedgology said:
Maybe for you, but this celebrity is implementing the policies millions of people elected him to implement.

Regardless of what you may thing of Trump, he's going to go down a folk hero.
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To a minority, perhaps. But to the majority and to historians, no.
 
Hedgology said:
Assuming that the American public cares for the opinions celebrities and pundits is the reason why Trump is in office...
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Don't sell them short, I know someone who cares about the opinions of pundits. Trump's daily policy focus is determined by his morning security briefing the Fox pundits give him...

Hedgology said:
...Regardless of what you may thing of Trump, he's going to go down a folk hero.
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I wouldn't doubt it and for the same reasons conservatives believe, Cliven "I've often wondered, are they better off as slaves picking cotton" Bundy, is a national treasure...
 
OscarLevant said:
To a minority, perhaps. But to the majority and to historians, no.
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Well, that is your opinion, I have no interest on debating on such meaningless characteristics.

The facts are so far Trump has done majority of the objectives he has set out to do. This is the only thing constituents care about when it comes to reelection.
 
SoCal said:
Don't sell them short, I know someone who cares about the opinions of pundits. Trump's daily policy focus is determined by his morning security briefing the Fox pundits give him...
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Perhaps, I'm not saying that the listening to the opinions of pundits is a meaningless endeavor. However, there is very little evidence to suggest that listening to someone more influential than me is going to sway my opinion. The previous election cycles seem to reflect this sentiment.

Overall, people are more interested in voting based on the reality that they see, not the reality they are being told to see.

I wouldn't doubt it and for the same reasons conservatives believe, Cliven "I've often wondered, are they better off as slaves picking cotton" Bundy, is a national treasure...
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I don't know who he is...
 
Hedgology said:
I haven't moved any goalpost; I simply said I don't remember the quotes that you do.



You wouldn't know that considering people were willing to pass over the most experienced presidential candidate in history for Donald Trump...



You've mistaken me; I am not a Trump support. However, I don't have any complaints regarding his Presidency, because he is doing majority of the things people elected him to do, which is how Democracies are intended to operate.
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I don't agree that democracies are intended to operate with a dishonest, divisive, corrupt, and immoral cartoon character at the helm. Unlike you, I have many complaints but I'm optimistic that we will recover our standing and reputation in the world after 2020.

The American people are resilient.
 
OscarLevant said:
I think that most of the Trump base, for years, went with whoever the nominee was because the right was always anti-abortion an pro-gun, and many or a percentage of them probably didn't vote much. I doubt these guys ever voted for dems. But, with Trump, they finally found their champion and they were now emboldened and empowered, with their racism, misogyny (or at least tolerancnce of it in Trump), hatred of the left, to be much more visible. They were always there.
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LMAO wut...

At what point between 2008 - 2016 did these voters suddenly become racist?
 
lurchadams said:
I don't agree that democracies are intended to operate with a dishonest, divisive, corrupt, and immoral cartoon character at the helm.
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Sure you do...

Don't tell me you believe we just suddenly started being dishonest with one another. I'm certain you don't believe our democracy only became corrupt after Nov. 9th 2016?

If you really believe those things, you must be a kid...

Unlike you, I have many complaints but I'm optimistic that we will recover our standing and reputation in the world after 2020.

The American people are resilient.
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Spare me...
 
HowardBThiname said:
He pretended to know what Reagan would think.
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No he didn't. He quoted the inscription on Reagan's grave:
" I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.”
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And gave an opinion of how Reagan would view present GOP leadership in accordance with that quote and the current immigration debacle:
"He would be ashamed of McConnell and Ryan and all the rest while this corrupt government establishes internment camps for babies."
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I think he's right, I don't think Reagan would have that inscription and, also, condone imprisoning INNOCENT children.
 
Hedgology said:
Sure you do...

Don't tell me you believe we just suddenly started being dishonest with one another. I'm certain you don't believe our democracy only became corrupt after Nov. 9th 2016?

If you really believe those things, you must be a kid...



Spare me...
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LOL - So you finally show your true colors! At least I'm honest about who I do and don't support. You definitely are a Trump supporter or you wouldn't be doing backflips to rationalize his behavior and defend that piece of trash.

You spare me!
 
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Hedgology said:
I can't speak to what he has or hasn't said. All I know is that on majority of his major campaign platforms, he has followed through on most of them.
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More from the same source:

Now, generally speaking, would you say that things in the country are going in the
right direction, or have they pretty seriously gotten off on the wrong track?

Right Direction 40%
Wrong Track 60%

Do you approve or disapprove of the job Donald Trump is doing as President?
Strongly approve: 26%
Strongly disapprove: 35%


Overall it's it's about even on both sides but those with strong opinions is more interesting to me, personally.

As you may know, in 1973 the Supreme Court decided in the Roe v. Wade case that
rst there is a constitutional right to have an abortion, at least within the women have
months of pregnancy. Do you think

The Supreme Court should overturn Roe v. Wade 26%
The Supreme Court should NOT overturn Roe v. Wade 56%


Clearly, repubs are on the wrong side of this issue when it comes to the will of the people.

Complete poll is here

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000015a-1b58-d712-adda-bf78cc9d0001
 
lurchadams said:
LOL - So you finally show your true colors! At least I'm honest about who I do and don't support. You definitely are a Trump supporter
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Oh, you're one of those... Of course.

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or you wouldn't believe in the crap you're trying to spread about how great he is for America.

You spare me!
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No, you most likely confused individual. The point is that Trump is not some magical demon that just sprung out of the ground overnight. We've had a dishonest, divisive, corrupt and immoral political system for a long time.

You set the groundwork for Trump.
 
Hedgology said:
In the form of tariffs, I would presume.
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Which are paid for by Americans.
Sure he did. Trump received 304 votes to Clinton's 227.
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A fluke of the electoral college doesn't represent the majority of people, which was what OP you are replying to meant.
He's still doing all the things people elected him to do. [...]
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He's still doing all the things that a minority of the electorate wanted him to do.
No, I don't. But I think he knows what people want and I think he is smart enough to give it to them.
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He knows what his base wants, about 35% -- 40% of the population.He's smart enough to give the minority what they want, but not the majority.
 
Hedgology said:
Might have something to do with Trump being the only President in history to keep a campaign promise...
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He hasn't accomplished ****. The only thing accomplished during his misadministration was the tax bill and that was happening, with or without him (a veto would have been over-ridden), as payback for the huge investment by the "1%'s" investment in the GOP. Other than that he's been a magician; everything he touches turns to ****.
 
Hedgology said:
... However, there is very little evidence to suggest that listening to someone more influential than me is going to sway my opinion...
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Again, I wouldn't doubt that for a second. If you feel like Trump does, confident in the 'knowledge' that you know more than all the influential experts in any given field of study at any given time, it's understandable why you won't be swayed...

Hedgology said:
... Overall, people are more interested in voting based on the reality that they see, not the reality they are being told to see...
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Overall for conservatives maybe. Liberals and moderates who realize that they don't know everything are much more accepting of expert opinions and research. Has anyone mentioned that looks can be deceiving?

Hedgology said:
... I don't know who he is...
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That's why we have Google...
 
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