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Trump On the New Time Cover

*Gay* pride, and you buying into that stuff at such a young and impressionable age....

How sad.

"Gay" is a one-word oxymoron. Homosexuals are unusually violent, and engage in murders and mass murders more often than normal people.
Sorry, but facts are not *homophobic*. They're facts.

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Back to the OT.. Times use of this child to spread their own political agenda is what is really wrong with this cover. The child was not crying because she was being taken from her mother, it was because she was watching strange men searching her mother, not being able to understand what was happening.

The fact is, according to her own father, she and her mother, Sandra Sanchez, have been detained together in the Texas border town of McAllen, where Sanchez has applied for asylum, and they were not separated after being detained near the border - they are together.

Sanchez and her daughter had left Puerto Cortes, a major Honduran port north of the capital city, Tegucigalpa, without telling her father, Valera, or the couple's three other children, he said.

He said he imagined that Sanchez left with the little girl for the United States, where she has family, in search of better economic opportunities.
 
Trump has been consistent in his approval rating according to Gallup. He started out at 45% dropped to 35% twice and has climbed back up to 45%. 513 days in office, Trump is where he started out at. His range has been ten points.

https://news.gallup.com/interactives/185273/presidential-job-approval-center.aspx

Obama started out at 67% and fell to 46% on day 509 in office. His low for his first 509 days. So at this point in time according to Gallup Obama fell 21 points from his first days in office.

G.W. Bush started out at 57% would fall to 51% just before 9-11, then soar up to 90%. He was at 74% on day 514 on his way down. Bush had a range of 39 points between high and low so far into his presidency.

Bill Clinton started out at 58%, fell to a low of 37% on day 137. He would rise back up to match his high of 58% on day 375 and then fall again down to 49% on day 508. Bill had a range of 21 points between high and low thus far into his presidency.

G.H.W. Bush started out at 51%, he would rise to 80% on day 352, then fall some down to 69% on day 513. G.H.W.'s low was 51% on the day he took office, his high was the 80%. A range of 29 points.

Reagan started out at 51%, he would achieve his high of 68% on day 111, drop to 43% on day 461 before rising modestly to 45% 510. Reagan's range between high and low was 25 points up to this point in his presidency.

Carter started out at 66%, rose to 75% on day 60, then drop to 40% on day 452 before rising two points to 42% on day 515. Jimmy had a range of 35 points between his high and low thus far into his presidency.

I stop there. I'd like to point out the huge range other presidents than Trump experienced. At least up to approximately the same point in their presidency. Trump started out low, dropped lower and has risen back to low. 45% in my book is still low, but not extremely low as in being below 40%. Bill Clinton is the only other president among other than Trump that I have listed to fall below 40% with Carter hitting 40% exactly on the nose.

The lack of range in Trump's approval rating shows, at least to me that most people had made up their mind about him before he even became president. Trump has a love/hate relationship that all other presidents haven't had. Other presidents approval rating reflected in how the the country was doing, what issues were hot, what was happening at the time. With Trump very small range, issues and direction of the country have little impact.

His whole election was unique and so too is his presidency. There is no previous mold to fit Trump into. Here's an article from Gallup I received today, it can leave on scratching his head.

In U.S., 36% Have Positive Opinion of Trump as a Person

https://news.gallup.com/poll/235844...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

None of this is incorrect in any way; however, I was taking slight issue with the previous poster's claim that Trump is gaining support every day.
 
Wasn't Trump pining to be on the cover of Time magazine recently?

lol...careful what you wish for.

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IMO, this is a perfect illustration of what we are all facing.

DAD: GIRL ON 'TIME' COVER WAS NEVER SEPARATED FROM MOTHER...

'They're together and they're safe.' Father of Honduran two-year-old who became the face of the family separation crisis when she was photographed in tears as her mother was searched by U.S. border control speaks out.
Honduran father who became the face of the child separation crisis | Daily Mail Online
 
Wasn't Trump pining to be on the cover of Time magazine recently?

lol...careful what you wish for.

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IMO, this is a perfect illustration of what we are all facing.

Yea just more phony news!

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EXCLUSIVE: 'They're together and safe: Father of Honduran two-year-old who became the face of family separation crisis reveals daughter was never separated from her mother, but the image of her in tears at U.S. border control ‘broke his heart’

In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com, Hernandez, who lives in Puerto Cortes, Honduras, says that he was told yesterday that his wife and child are being detained at a family residential center in Texas but are together and are doing 'fine.'

Honduran father reveals daughter was never separated from her mother | Daily Mail Online
 
Yea just more phony news!

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EXCLUSIVE: 'They're together and safe: Father of Honduran two-year-old who became the face of family separation crisis reveals daughter was never separated from her mother, but the image of her in tears at U.S. border control ‘broke his heart’

In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com, Hernandez, who lives in Puerto Cortes, Honduras, says that he was told yesterday that his wife and child are being detained at a family residential center in Texas but are together and are doing 'fine.'

Honduran father reveals daughter was never separated from her mother | Daily Mail Online

Someone obviously doesn't get it
 
None of this is incorrect in any way; however, I was taking slight issue with the previous poster's claim that Trump is gaining support every day.

Depends on how one looks at it. Let's use RCP averages since it has an interactive graph.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Here are the different views:

1. From day one of the presidency to today: 43.8% to 43.7% today. No gain or no loss of support. Basically static. Within a tenth of one percentage point of being the same. No change at all in support.

2. From 4 Feb 2017, Trump's highest approval rating of 47% to today 43.7% a loss if 2.3 points in support.

3 From 15 Dec 2017, Trump's lowest approval rating of 37.2% to today, 43.7%, a huge gain of 6.5 points.

Has Trump gained or loss support, it depends on the starting point. Both can be right. The overall picture according to me, from day one of his presidency till today. Trump lost close to 7 points of support in his first year in office, but since December of 2017, he has gained those losses back.

It is important to note, that Trump hasn't gained any new supporters. He has just gained back those supporters who once supported him, deserted him and now he has them back. This begs the question why did he lose them and then was able to gain them back. My take, those 7 points of support he lost were folks who supported his policies, his stances on the issues but were really, really disgusted with his character, his personality, his persona. His very unpresidential, uncouth, obnoxious behavior. That as time passed, they have become more or less use to his antics and crude behavior. As a result, his stances and policies has taken front page with them. They don't like him as a person, they certainly wouldn't let their children behave like Trump does. This is why you can have 36% of all Americans giving Trump a positive on his character and a 45% approval on his job as president. They highly disapprove of Trump's character, but like the job he is doing.
 
Iconic image of crying child separated from family at border is fake news, child never separated

If the media wants President Donald Trump and others to stop calling them fake news then they need to stop being fake news.

A Getty photographer snapped a picture of a crying girl a few weeks ago and became the go-to image for the border fiasco. Time used the picture on its cover to bash Trump, but the girl’s father said that the child and her mother were never separated.

In fact, he told The Daily Mail, “They are safer now than when they were making that journey to the border.”

I saw so many people dismiss this story because it came from The Daily Mail. I have some news for you! Reuters confirmed this information with Honduran Deputy Foreign Minister Nelly Jerez. The Daily Beast received confirmation from the border patrol. ICE sent confirmation to Buzzfeed.

In other words, another narrative squashed.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/06/iconic-image-of-crying-child-separated-from-family-at-border-is-fake-news-child-never-separated/#more-252984
 
Well if you're willing to concede, as Trump did, that his separation policy was an abject failure, then yeah - I'm happy to move-on to the subsequent discussion.

Don't mistake my disgust with Trump's separation-policy causing a humanitarian crisis, with support of open borders. I want an air-tight border, and an E-verify mandate. I abhor the porous border both parties & our government have given us. I support Trump in his general, though not specific desire to end illegal immigration (separation is an example where I disagree).

While the Dems had the right side of the Trump separation issue, I believe they are wrong in general on the illegal immigration issue in the larger sense, and have seen some polls indicating this. It was one of the reasons I left the Party, though my disgust with Trump recently brought me back in.

As to Dem policy in this specific issue (separation), I believe they'll need to go along with stricter enforcement, while still rallying for humane treatment of those we prevent from legally entering. We will either have to throw enough resources at the border to handle the situation humanely, or we will have to throw enough resources at it to seal it off more adequately.

I'm not sure a physical wall is the solution - it may be - but there needs to be an effectual wall. We simply cannot allow a porous border, and by doing so we end-up causing all sorts of social problems, as was seen this week with the kids.

I'd also add, we have to find those separated 3K+ kids and get them back to their parents. I have no idea how we are going to do that with those whose parents have already been deported to the Central American countries like Guatemala-Honduras-Nicaragua. Those countries don't have an effective government nor functioning communications infrastructure. I fear those kids are now ours, and DHS is already claiming some of these kids will never be united with their families.

I'm in general agreement with you here and appreciate the thoughtful post. I think one of the problems we've run into as well with this latest situation, is that many of these children did not arrive with their parents but with unrelated adults who were transporting them. That makes it quite difficult for us to reunite them with their actual families.
 
His first year was Obama's economy. Duh.

I've stated elsewhere that there is little a president can do to move the stock market. The market does what it does so I don't give Trump all that much credit for its movement but only mention it in response to general economic comments. On the growth and jobs front, Trump will surpass Obama.
 
Wasn't Trump pining to be on the cover of Time magazine recently?

lol...careful what you wish for.

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IMO, this is a perfect illustration of what we are all facing.

Heartstring journalism. Post a picture of a crying kid. Claim it's the other guy's fault. Never mind the facts.

My kids looked like that at least twice a day. When they had to eat their veggies or couldn't convince me to give them a candy bar before dinner.
 
The fact is that once the children are separated from their parent, and the parent is entered in the criminal system, the children are redefined as "unaccompanied"

The fact is that Trump initiated this zero tolerance separation policy, and then lied claiming it was the law.

I think it may be you having trouble with some facts.

We can avoid any further issues such as this by turning back everyone at the border. That requires more border personnel and better barriers to entry. Once we make it extremely difficult to just walk in, people will start getting in line like others have or at least go to legal ports of entry. Lastly, many of these kids were simply being transported by or were attached to adults. That didn't make them their parents.
 
Do you have some credential as a pediatric psychologist educated in permanence of trauma? Do you have access to government secrets about just how temporary these separations are? Or do you just imagine anything Trump does is peachy keen, and you willingly jump on the train to defend it? Just wondering how a healthy mind got to this post.


Do you? If not then perhaps you shouldn't be making any claims about it, either.
 
The insanity is ignoring the world around us and believing it does not effect us. This is the 21st century. We can't wall ourselves away no matter what you think. We can at least take care of our part of the world and now you are seeing why.

Our job is not to "take care of our part of the world". Our job is to take care of the United States of America and the better job we do of that, the more we can help others.
 
I'm not sure that's legal. It's definitely not legal for non-Mexican citizens, which it appears many of these are.

You can't simply dump one nation's citizen on another's.

If only Mexico and countries south would adhere to such an idea.
 
*Gay* pride, and you buying into that stuff at such a young and impressionable age....

How sad.

"Gay" is a one-word oxymoron. Homosexuals are unusually violent, and engage in murders and mass murders more often than normal people.
Sorry, but facts are not *homophobic*. They're facts.

Normal people have every reason to be distrustful of "Gay" people...
 
I've stated elsewhere that there is little a president can do to move the stock market. The market does what it does ....

Deeply analytical, "the market does what it does."

President Reagan cut taxes dramatically and the stock market soared as a direct result. This contradicts your claim of "little a president can do."
The always hateful, always emotional reaction of Democrats to President Reagan's economic successes was, "The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer."

BUT WHEN the stock market soared under Bill "loathing the military" Clinton, who famously cut welfare spending and declared "I say again, the era of welfare is over," Democrats changed their tune completely from what they said about "the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer" to "the economy's in good shape."

And the ignorant and the young, and the socialists and welfare millions ate up these Democrat mantras, the first of which is patterned after Karl Marx himself.
 
Deeply analytical, "the market does what it does."

President Reagan cut taxes dramatically and the stock market soared as a direct result. This contradicts your claim of "little a president can do."
The always hateful, always emotional reaction of Democrats to President Reagan's economic successes was, "The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer."

BUT WHEN the stock market soared under Bill "loathing the military" Clinton, who famously cut welfare spending and declared "I say again, the era of welfare is over," Democrats changed their tune completely from what they said about "the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer" to "the economy's in good shape."

And the ignorant and the young, and the socialists and welfare millions ate up these Democrat mantras, the first of which is patterned after Karl Marx himself.

Nothing bothers me more than a young gay socialist on welfare...
 
Deeply analytical, "the market does what it does."

President Reagan cut taxes dramatically and the stock market soared as a direct result. This contradicts your claim of "little a president can do."
The always hateful, always emotional reaction of Democrats to President Reagan's economic successes was, "The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer."

BUT WHEN the stock market soared under Bill "loathing the military" Clinton, who famously cut welfare spending and declared "I say again, the era of welfare is over," Democrats changed their tune completely from what they said about "the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer" to "the economy's in good shape."

And the ignorant and the young, and the socialists and welfare millions ate up these Democrat mantras, the first of which is patterned after Karl Marx himself.

All that means is that both Republicans and Democrats overestimate the impact a president can have on the stock market. When Obama took office in January 2009, the market was just over 9500. When he left in January 2017, it was 20,500. So, is it your contention that Obama's policies caused the market to go up 115%? No, it was the normal rebound from the 2008 recession. Now, I've nowhere argued that tax cuts are not good for the market, only that stock market performance is more a reflection of general macro-economic trends.
 
Wasn't Trump pining to be on the cover of Time magazine recently?

lol...careful what you wish for.

IMO, this is a perfect illustration of what we are all facing.

I lol'ed pretty hard when I first seen the Time cover, that is truly some sh!t-tier propaganda. The amazing thing is how many people get swept up in the faux outrage generated by it.

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At least there were a lot of funny parodies of the cover:lamo
 
dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb Christ almight, why do you people even bother. You have no defense, Trump is a scumbag, a complete idiot a complete buffoon. THere is no shame in admitting you are wrong.



Or they can try to be an adult and actually form an argument. You know, state position, provide facts to support it, provide reasoning. But these people have nothing. No facts, no intelligence, no logic, no shame

Facts
1- booming economy
2- lowest unemployment rate
3- talks with NK
4- got us out of the Iran deal
5- building up our military
6- removed regulations on businesses
7- working on fair trade
8- building the wall
9- enforcing border laws finally
10- naming two Supreme Court judges
I’m glad you asked, this is making my day great again.
11- other countries paying more of their share of UN
and all that with 24/7 hate from media and liberals.



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Alright, let's see what you've got here:

1- booming economy -> Trade wars with pretty much everyone
2- lowest unemployment rate -> Thanks, Obama...let's see what trade wars with everyone does to that
3- talks with NK -> Result: N. Korean nuclear facilities getting upgrades days later
4- got us out of the Iran deal -> Isolating yourself from the rest of the world, leaving your allies at the table, and losing your voice at the same.
5- building up our military -> Because being by far the biggest wasn't enough, and no one in your country would stand to benefit from that money...ah well, at least gun manufacturers will do well...
6- removed regulations on businesses -> Because America was previously over the top, in terms of holding businesses to account to the benefit of your citizenry.
7- working on fair trade -> Failing on every single front (see above, re: trade wars with everyone), and destroying America's prestige and desirability as a trade partner in the process
8- building the wall -> Post picture, please
9- enforcing border laws finally -> And then instantly back tracking, due to public outcry at inhumane treatment
10- naming two Supreme Court judges -> I got nothing on this one...go ahead, and celebrate that he hired two people... ;)
I’m glad you asked, this is making my day great again.
11- other countries paying more of their share of UN -> Probably, because America is slowly removing itself from the UN, through it's behaviors and simply walking away (UN Human Rights Committee). Question: is "Life will go on without America" really in your best interest...?
and all that with 24/7 hate from media and liberals. -> AKA people who have an issue watching their country run into the ground.

Interesting analysis...fun! :)
 
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