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Tax Cuts for Rich; Medicare and SS Cuts for You

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Yeay, Republicans!

House GOP plan would cut Medicare, Medicaid to balance budget

House Republicans released a proposal Tuesday that would balance the budget in nine years — but only by making large cuts to entitlement programs, including Medicare, that President Trump vowed not to touch.

...the budget serves as an expression of Republicans’ priorities at a time of rapidly rising deficits and debt. Although the nation’s growing indebtedness has been exacerbated by the GOP’s own policy decisions — including the new tax law, which most analyses say will add at least $1 trillion to the debt — Republicans on the Budget Committee said they felt a responsibility to put the nation on a sounder fiscal trajectory.
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Oh, yeah. I forgot. Trump promised. So, no worries. Right?
 
No worries. The tax cuts were for everyone and the only way to stop run away spending is to cut entitlements. Its just math. A balanced budget isn't necessarily the goal but reducing debt and therefore maintaining the dollar is the main goal.
 
The House Republican budget, titled “A Brighter American Future,” would remake Medicare by giving seniors the option of enrolling in private plans that compete with traditional Medicare, a system of competition designed to keep costs down but dismissed by critics as an effort to privatize the program.

The crux of the article. Giving people a choice is not exactly a massive cut.

Brought to by the government knows better than you do crowd.
 
calamity said:
Yeay, Republicans!

House GOP plan would cut Medicare, Medicaid to balance budget



Oh, yeah. I forgot. Trump promised. So, no worries. Right?
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Scumbags! A trillion dollars for Military Offense and screw the public to counterbalance that expenditure. I mean, the billionaires really need more bombs, guns, planes, tanks, jets, and other big energy users to feed the Energy monopoly and the banks that finance all this are truly needy, or not? The first big profits of all wars.
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one of the reasons I generally vote for the GOP is I tire of being told people like me "need" to pay more taxes.
 
Well we have to pay for our feet of fighter spacecraft and our deathstar somehow.

Some bean counter did the math and figured out that live old people cost more then they contribute so a higher death rate is a good way to pay for ****...
 
TobyOne said:
No worries. The tax cuts were for everyone and the only way to stop run away spending is to cut entitlements. Its just math. A balanced budget isn't necessarily the goal but reducing debt and therefore maintaining the dollar is the main goal.
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What part of my 90 year old mother's $800 Social Security check do you want to reduce?

Less goodies for poor people, more goodies for rich people, this is what Republicans actually mean when they say they are for "smaller government"
 
DaveFagan said:
Scumbags! A trillion dollars for Military Offense and screw the public to counterbalance that expenditure. I mean, the billionaires really need more bombs, guns, planes, tanks, jets, and other big energy users to feed the Energy monopoly and the banks that finance all this are truly needy, or not? The first big profits of all wars.
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My gawd, are you sure you are a "conservative", you sound like one of us, or maybe you are just being sarcastic.
 
Xelor said:
Trump's explicit promises ain't worth pea turkey squat.
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Turkey **** actually makes very good fertilizer.

Trumps rantings on the other hand are incessant wastes of oxygen...
 
Probably only 10%. Haven't done that math. The problem is that you look at government as givers of "goodies". Stop that.




OscarLevant said:
What part of my 90 year old mother's $800 Social Security check do you want to reduce?

Less goodies for poor people, more goodies for rich people, this is what Republicans actually mean when they say they are for "smaller government"
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OscarLevant said:
What part of my 90 year old mother's $800 Social Security check do you want to reduce
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Per the budget proposal under discussion - none of it. What is reduce in Social Security is on the Disability Insurance side - basically, people can't double-dip by taking both unemployment benefits (claiming to be looking for work) and Social Security Disability Insurance (claiming they are too disabled to work).

By making common sense adjustments like this, we can hopefully protect your mother's small check from flat, across-the-board cuts currently scheduled.


Or, you know, we can demagogue anyone who tries to reduce costs in a controlled manner until they get reduced suddenly in an uncontrolled manner. That's also technically a plan.
 
jimbo said:
The House Republican budget, titled “A Brighter American Future,” would remake Medicare by giving seniors the option of enrolling in private plans that compete with traditional Medicare, a system of competition designed to keep costs down but dismissed by critics as an effort to privatize the program.

The crux of the article. Giving people a choice is not exactly a massive cut.

Brought to by the government knows better than you do crowd.
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There's no magic formula to keeping costs down for an insurer. You say "no" more (and thus pay for fewer services in the aggregate), make beneficiaries pay more out of pocket, and tighten up your provider network to cut out certain doctors and hospitals. Traditional Medicare isn't allowed to do any of those things, private payers can. So to the extent private payers can put more restrictions on beneficiary choices, they can do a better job of holding down costs; the only caveat being that they would end up paying providers higher prices than traditional Medicare, which mitigates some of the savings.

In other words, it's essentially the equivalent of putting old folks into the ACA exchanges--yet the GOP hasn't particularly liked those.
 
What till you see what happens to old people when healthcare is "free" for all.



GDViking said:
Well we have to pay for our feet of fighter spacecraft and our deathstar somehow.

Some bean counter did the math and figured out that live old people cost more then they contribute so a higher death rate is a good way to pay for ****...
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calamity said:
Yeay, Republicans!

House GOP plan would cut Medicare, Medicaid to balance budget



Oh, yeah. I forgot. Trump promised. So, no worries. Right?
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I've been in this country for only the last 27 years, but every freaking time anything concerning the budget or taxes the dems don't like, their battle cry has been the same:

old people will starve, children will starve, the poor will die in the streets, the repubs want to take your money, the government is gonna shut down ...

It's time for dems to come up with some new "slogans", because repubs no longer believe the BS they are selling.
 
cpwill said:
Per the budget proposal under discussion - none of it. What is reduce in Social Security is on the Disability Insurance side - basically, people can't double-dip by taking both unemployment benefits (claiming to be looking for work) and Social Security Disability Insurance (claiming they are too disabled to work).

By making common sense adjustments like this, we can hopefully protect your mother's small check from flat, across-the-board cuts currently scheduled.


Or, you know, we can demagogue anyone who tries to reduce costs in a controlled manner until they get reduced suddenly in an uncontrolled manner. That's also technically a plan.
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I can only pray you are right, but the budget cutting director, "Killing Meals On Wheels Is Compassionate" Mulvaney, somehow I'm not encouraged.


Giving tax breaks to the rich and to pay for that tax collection shortfall they are cutting social programs, that's not going to go down well in November.

Anyway, here's a deeper look, see what you think:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/12/16996832/trump-budget-2019-release-explained
 
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