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Mexico lets NOBODY in.. why on talk about how racist and terrible they are?

TobyMeyers said:
Mexico lets nobody into their country... they put you in jail if you try to come and claim asylum.
Japan lets nobody in. Japan refuses over 99% of refugees that apply.
Muslim countries let nobody in as they dont want diversity of culture.

WHY DO LEFTISTS GIVE THESE PLACE A PASS? AND NEVER TALK ABOUT THEIR POLICIES WHICH ARE SUPER NONCOMPASSIONATE COMPARED TO USA?


They also have the advantage that their culture and countries are very backwards and poor though compared to western/ white countries if honest.

Why do all these places and other get free passes by the left?
They are not accussed of being racist , etc are they?

Yet their policies are much less compassionate than Usa has ever been in recent history.

Its so bigoted and uneducated.
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You must be really young. You have a lot to learn.
 
TobyMeyers said:
Mexico lets nobody into their country... they put you in jail if you try to come and claim asylum.
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1) Mexico does let refugees in. Just not many that want to go there. And all countries put asylum seekers in detention at least in the beginning. But there is a damn big difference between a detention centre and a freaking prison.

Japan lets nobody in. Japan refuses over 99% of refugees that apply.
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Which is it.. you say they let no one in, and yet you say 99% of refugees are refused... that means 1% get accepted, which is more than "no one".

Muslim countries let nobody in as they dont want diversity of culture.
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Muslim countries have the most refugees on the planet. Jordan has 2.7 million, Turkey 2.5 million, Pakistan 1.6 million and Lebanon 1.5 million. That does not include internally displaced of course, which also runs in the millions in Syria and Iraq and Afghanistan. All those countries are... Muslim for the most part. Care to refine your attitude a bit?

WHY DO LEFTISTS GIVE THESE PLACE A PASS? AND NEVER TALK ABOUT THEIR POLICIES WHICH ARE SUPER NONCOMPASSIONATE COMPARED TO USA?
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Lets see.. Mexico gets a pass because getting there as a refugee is hard, since most refugees come from the middle eastern areas or Africa.. that big blue thing called the Atlantic ocean is a great barrier, not to mention it is hardly the first place they want to go. Japan gets a reluctant pass because they make up for it by pumping billions into helping refugees around the world... it is a reluctant pass, but again most refugees dont want to go there and the distance is an issue. As for Muslim countries... as I pointed out, most refugees are in them.

Did you know the US does not take in many refugees? Odd no? You are allowing in total only 45k refugees into the US this year... and as of last month, only 14k have been allowed in and only 46 of them were Syrian. Hell you allowed in 1 South African refguee.. wtf?

They are not accussed of being racist , etc are they?
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Actually yes they have been... Japan especially.

Yet their policies are much less compassionate than Usa has ever been in recent history.
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What are their policies.. do you know? Do they kidnap children, and put people in real jail?

Its so bigoted and uneducated.
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Yes you are.
 
TobyMeyers said:
We hate seeing our country turn into a high crime and high welfare state just like the 3rd world is.

Big coincidence.. We let 3rd worlders in.. then our country turns into places like they came from.

Hmm big coincidence right?
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Interesting. So in the 1800's we were like Germany and Ireland? Or were we our own country then?
 
PeteEU said:
1) Mexico does let refugees in. Just not many that want to go there. And all countries put asylum seekers in detention at least in the beginning. But there is a damn big difference between a detention centre and a freaking prison.



Which is it.. you say they let no one in, and yet you say 99% of refugees are refused... that means 1% get accepted, which is more than "no one".



Muslim countries have the most refugees on the planet. Jordan has 2.7 million, Turkey 2.5 million, Pakistan 1.6 million and Lebanon 1.5 million. That does not include internally displaced of course, which also runs in the millions in Syria and Iraq and Afghanistan. All those countries are... Muslim for the most part. Care to refine your attitude a bit?



Lets see.. Mexico gets a pass because getting there as a refugee is hard, since most refugees come from the middle eastern areas or Africa.. that big blue thing called the Atlantic ocean is a great barrier, not to mention it is hardly the first place they want to go. Japan gets a reluctant pass because they make up for it by pumping billions into helping refugees around the world... it is a reluctant pass, but again most refugees dont want to go there and the distance is an issue. As for Muslim countries... as I pointed out, most refugees are in them.

Did you know the US does not take in many refugees? Odd no? You are allowing in total only 45k refugees into the US this year... and as of last month, only 14k have been allowed in and only 46 of them were Syrian. Hell you allowed in 1 South African refguee.. wtf?



Actually yes they have been... Japan especially.



What are their policies.. do you know? Do they kidnap children, and put people in real jail?



Yes you are.
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It seems like perhaps toby is just making things up?
 
TobyMeyers said:
We hate seeing our country turn into a high crime and high welfare state just like the 3rd world is.

Big coincidence.. We let 3rd worlders in.. then our country turns into places like they came from.

Hmm big coincidence right?
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People said the same about Italians and the Irish. Same story, different idiots claiming it about different immigrants.
 
TobyMeyers said:
We are much better.

But yeh so why do u never call Mexicans racist though?
when they are super oppossed to immigration.. but you dont call them out ever do you?
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Why do you think you are racist?
 
<alt>doxygen said:
His threads seem to be tirades based on bad/false information.
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I don't understand. Fox is supposed to be the real news while everyone else is fake news. How could he possibly be misinformed?
 
The wife and I have actually studied the process of becoming American immigrants in Mexico (also known as "expats") and the process is actually pretty straightforward UNLIKE OUR OWN system here in the United States.

The process of becoming a legal resident alien in Mexico isn't complicated, and it isn't even expensive.
One could accuse it of being rather lengthy; you might have to wait five or even ten years and jump through a few hoops to become a Mexican citizen but it is possible and accessible.

If you're an American or a Brit, you're even allowed to maintain dual citizenship.

There are a few things which Mexico does that I support us doing here in this country, one of them is learning the dominant language. In Mexico, you must demonstrate functional ability in Spanish in order to become a citizen.

When I was in first grade in Maryland in 1962, we got a new arrival named Guillermo.
He didn't speak a word of English, something our teacher interpreted as a challenge. She took it.
For about twenty minutes every day, the entire class HELPED Guillermo learn the basics, and we learned a few words of Spanish at the same time. Guillermo also received a bit of extracurricular tutoring, and of course we all made use of our spare time, because we had a natural incentive as kids, so lunchtime and recess were also Guillermo's language lab.
Guillermo took to it like ducks to water.

In three months, Guillermo was functional enough in English that he could ask and answer questions in class.
In six months it was as if he'd been speaking the language all his life.

So I am an enthusiastic supporter of basic functionality in English being a requirement for residency in the United States, it's common sense.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
His threads seem to be tirades based on bad/false information.
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That plus trying to imply that a person is "scared cuz they don't get into YouTube politics".
Has anyone else ever looked at the comments section on most YouTube videos?
It's an eye opener!
It's almost like the breeding ground for every alt-Right domestic terrorist you're ever going to see in the newspapers.
 
TobyMeyers said:
Yes your right of course.

Liberals are the people on welfare on average.

Republicans have higher average iq's and better jobs and make more money and pay for all the 3rd worlders.. the truth
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As with all of your posts in this thread this is incorrect as well...

- 22 of the top 30 wealthiest counties in the U.S. are majority Democrat
- 9 of the top 10 wealthiest zip codes voted Democrat
- Study shows the more educated lean left a-wider-ideological-gap-between-more-and-less-educated-adults/
- GOP base benefit most from Gov't Programs gop-base-benefits most from government programs

Counties below....
New York, New York $120,790 DEMOCRAT
Loving, Texas $99,593
Pitkin, Colorado $93,465 DEMOCRAT
Marin, California $91,483 DEMOCRAT
Fairfield, Connecticut $81,576 DEMOCRAT
Westchester, New York $74,878 DEMOCRAT
San Mateo, California $71,753 DEMOCRAT
Morris, New Jersey $71,713 DEMOCRAT
San Francisco, California $71,342 DEMOCRAT
Somerset, New Jersey $70,949 DEMOCRAT
Alexandria City, Virginia $70,632 DEMOCRAT
Arlington, Virginia $68,270 DEMOCRAT
Fairfax, Virginia $67,909 DEMOCRAT
Montgomery, Maryland $67,525 DEMOCRAT
Bergen, New Jersey $67,125 DEMOCRAT
Hunterdon, New Jersey $66,449 DEMOCRAT
Sully, North Dakota $64,352
Blaine, Idaho $64,207
Collier, Florida $63,276
Nassau, New York $62,981 DEMOCRAT
District of Columbia $62,484 DEMOCRAT
Norfolk, Massachusetts $62,129 DEMOCRAT
Montgomery, Pennsylvania $62,086 DEMOCRAT
Martin, Florida $61,868
Sublette, Wyoming $61,411
Monroe, Florida $61,216 DEMOCRAT
Santa Clara, California $60,107 DEMOCRAT
Ozaukee, Wisconsin $60,059
Indian River, Florida $59,419
 
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TobyMeyers said:
Why do u give Mexico a pass on their laws?
They let nobody in ever.
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Estimates of how many Central Americans are living in Mexico are hard to come by, in part because some, like Zaldivar, have obtained forged Mexican identity documents. But statistics show more and more are staying legally by seeking political asylum or humanitarian visas.

Asylum applications in Mexico nearly tripled over three years, hitting 3,424 in 2015. Asylum requests this year are poised to be twice that, human rights advocates say, with most filed by Hondurans and Salvadorans.
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read more here
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
The wife and I have actually studied the process of becoming American immigrants in Mexico (also known as "expats") and the process is actually pretty straightforward UNLIKE OUR OWN system here in the United States.

The process of becoming a legal resident alien in Mexico isn't complicated, and it isn't even expensive.
One could accuse it of being rather lengthy; you might have to wait five or even ten years and jump through a few hoops to become a Mexican citizen but it is possible and accessible.

If you're an American or a Brit, you're even allowed to maintain dual citizenship.

There are a few things which Mexico does that I support us doing here in this country, one of them is learning the dominant language. In Mexico, you must demonstrate functional ability in Spanish in order to become a citizen.

When I was in first grade in Maryland in 1962, we got a new arrival named Guillermo.
He didn't speak a word of English, something our teacher interpreted as a challenge. She took it.
For about twenty minutes every day, the entire class HELPED Guillermo learn the basics, and we learned a few words of Spanish at the same time. Guillermo also received a bit of extracurricular tutoring, and of course we all made use of our spare time, because we had a natural incentive as kids, so lunchtime and recess were also Guillermo's language lab.
Guillermo took to it like ducks to water.

In three months, Guillermo was functional enough in English that he could ask and answer questions in class.
In six months it was as if he'd been speaking the language all his life.

So I am an enthusiastic supporter of basic functionality in English being a requirement for residency in the United States, it's common sense.
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I've thought of that, too. Hubs and I. And if it's 5 to 10 years before they allow you to become a citizen, I could learn the language in plenty of time by then. I speak enough to find a bathroom. Maybe a little more. :lol: But full immersion is the best way to learn.
 
Praxas said:
So you want to be like Mexico huh?
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I don't, but it's fair to make the comparison between the US and other countries.

No country treat border invaders better than the US. The exception is the EU, which is having problems with unvetted border crossing residents. We should learn from the EU. Not attempt to emulate it.
 
TobyMeyers said:
Mexico lets nobody into their country... they put you in jail if you try to come and claim asylum.
Japan lets nobody in. Japan refuses over 99% of refugees that apply.
Muslim countries let nobody in as they dont want diversity of culture.

WHY DO LEFTISTS GIVE THESE PLACE A PASS? AND NEVER TALK ABOUT THEIR POLICIES WHICH ARE SUPER NONCOMPASSIONATE COMPARED TO USA?


They also have the advantage that their culture and countries are very backwards and poor though compared to western/ white countries if honest.

Why do all these places and other get free passes by the left?
They are not accussed of being racist , etc are they?

Yet their policies are much less compassionate than Usa has ever been in recent history.

Its so bigoted and uneducated.
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You are wrong. I can walk into Mexico at a border checkpoint within 3 hours from my house and no one will ask to see jack****.

Next!
 
iliveonramen said:
People said the same about Italians and the Irish. Same story, different idiots claiming it about different immigrants.
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I don’t think Italians and Irish got welfare! It hadn’t been invented yet.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
That plus trying to imply that a person is "scared cuz they don't get into YouTube politics".
Has anyone else ever looked at the comments section on most YouTube videos?
It's an eye opener!
It's almost like the breeding ground for every alt-Right domestic terrorist you're ever going to see in the newspapers.
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I can't read a single Youtube comment section on politics without being put into a bad mood. I've taught myself to refrain for the sake of my sanity.
 
Crystal said:
So? Does that prove you love America? Did Timothy McVeigh love America?
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Nope. It doesn't appear that right-winger loved America very much. I do. Care to prove I don't since you accused me of not liking America and all?
 
poweRob said:
Nope. It doesn't appear that right-winger loved America very much. I do. Care to prove I don't since you accused me of not liking America and all?
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If you love America why don’t you defend her right to a secure border?
 
If I were a leftist living in Japan I would object. Ditto if I lived in Mexico, etc. Mexico tolerated thousands of Guatemalans who took shelter there in the 80s in a shorter migration than the current one but due to similar reasons. And of course, Mexico didn’t support death squads or Contras in Central America as the US did. US proclaimed C. A. As our “back yard” or “front yard” depending on which country we were invading or interfering with. The Third World is repaying the favor of European and US invasions, interference and colonization. We should be flattered by the imitation.
 
Crystal said:
If you love America why don’t you defend her right to a secure border?
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1: I do not think he has said America cannot or should not defend her borders.

2: Why do you define “loving America” as agreeing with you politically?
 
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