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Disturbing Audio Of Detention Center

Sampson Simpson said:
No, Trump won because dumb POS redneck racist were scared because they lost their right to discriminate and crap all over minorities.

And the entire illegals are the cause of all our problems is complete nonsense. People are complete idiots. Republicans "Hey, look, those brown people are to blame for all our problems, please don't look while we let our rich friends rob the treasury, pollute the environment and screw workers
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No. Nothing you posted is correct and barely rises to the level of opinion.
 
SoCal said:
As I pointed out, it's not a tangent.

Regarding the daily practice of ignoring questions and points brought up here, seriously? Very few of mine are ever addressed.

"I am shocked—shocked—to find that gambling is going on in here!"...
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Sorry, NO, Slavery, concentration camps, apartheid nor the legality of the Iraq war have any relationship to my question, what do we do with the children of the parents in detention ?? I've noticed that you too have ignored the question ................. imagine that.
 
As a father of a 3 year old daughter that was incredibly hard to listen to. Why is our immigration policy like this? We have the data that shows illegal immigrants are no more violent than average Americans, but we still have to sit and watch a party consumed by conspiracy, and yes white nationalism, paint these people as murders and criminals. How can some people accept the idea that if a family crosses the border seeking a better life it is okay to rip their children out of their arms? It is a complete moral failing. I don't care what cherry picked bible verse you use to defend it.
 
MrPeanut said:
As a father of a 3 year old daughter that was incredibly hard to listen to. Why is our immigration policy like this? We have the data that shows illegal immigrants are no more violent than average Americans, but we still have to sit and watch a party consumed by conspiracy, and yes white nationalism, paint these people as murders and criminals. How can some people accept the idea that if a family crosses the border seeking a better life it is okay to rip their children out of their arms? It is a complete moral failing. I don't care what cherry picked bible verse you use to defend it.
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So what should happen to people who enter this country illegally and drag along their minor children when they do so?
 
Fletch said:
So what should happen to people who enter this country illegally and drag along their minor children when they do so?
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They should go through a humane process that involves keeping them together. Allot more money to immigration so that we have the power to process immigrants more quickly. If you have committed no serious offenses there should be a path to citizenship eventually. Stealing people's children to try and scare off other families is disgusting. History has shown that locking innocent people up in cages is always a bad idea.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
Really? Because this treatment of Mexican and Central American immigrants hits two out of four of those in direct relevancy and congruence..
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Nonsense.

"Internment Camps" may be the closest to describe the situation, but the 4 you mentioned are nonsense.
 
hanger4 said:
Sorry, NO, Slavery, concentration camps, apartheid nor the legality of the Iraq war have any relationship to my question, what do we do with the children of the parents in detention ?? I've noticed that you too have ignored the question ................. imagine that.
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Children should not be separated in the first place. I would continue with the procedure in place before Trump decided to start abusing children. Even Republicans are outraged at his new policy decision.

At least a handful of moral Republicans will stoop only so low, imagine that. I don't know the details yet, but Cruz's proposal sounds like a good place to start overturning this outrage...
 
SoCal said:
Children should not be separated in the first place. I would continue with the procedure in place before Trump decided to start abusing children. Even Republicans are outraged at his new policy decision. At least a handful of moral Republicans will stoop only so low, imagine that.

I don't know the details yet, but Cruz's proposal sounds like a good place to start overturning this outrage...
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The big problem is the volume of people coming here illegally. It's more then we can handle, so it's all being done on the fly. No preparedness to handle the numbers, so it's all a confusing mess on what to do with them.
 
Roadvirus said:
The big problem is the volume of people coming here illegally. It's more then we can handle, so it's all being done on the fly. No preparedness to handle the numbers, so it's all a confusing mess on what to do with them.
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No, this is a policy that the administration stated was going to be instituted as a deterrent. They are trying to sugar coat it now that most Americans are rightly disgusted by the policy, but this isn't anything other than a clear conscience decision by the Trump administration.
 
MrPeanut said:
They should go through a humane process that involves keeping them together. Allot more money to immigration so that we have the power to process immigrants more quickly. If you have committed no serious offenses there should be a path to citizenship eventually. Stealing people's children to try and scare off other families is disgusting. History has shown that locking innocent people up in cages is always a bad idea.
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But it was a good idea when Obama did it I guess. But I dont disagree with much of what you said. However, anyone who seeks asylum by jumping our border should be booted out of the country without a hearing. You want to apply for asylum? Follow the rules
 
Fletch said:
But it was a good idea when Obama did it I guess. But I dont disagree with much of what you said. However, anyone who seeks asylum by jumping our border should be booted out of the country without a hearing. You want to apply for asylum? Follow the rules
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When did Obama do it? I have been seeing this lie spread far and wide recently and all I can think is that you must be reading the same far right crap everybody else is. Separation has been optional for years, but was never enforced. It is now mandatory to separate kids from their parents. There is a big difference between how it works now and how it worked under Obama. I believe that border security is important for any nation, but I also accept the reality that desperate people will do desperate things to protect themselves and their families. It's easy for us to argue on the internet about how illegal immigrants need to "follow the rules" because we aren't the ones traveling hundreds of miles to avoid horrific conditions in our home country. I think we can be secure without being evil.
 
Roadvirus said:
The big problem is the volume of people coming here illegally. It's more then we can handle, so it's all being done on the fly. No preparedness to handle the numbers, so it's all a confusing mess on what to do with them.
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Wow, a reasonable sounding conservative, awesome!

You're absolutely right about the administration not being prepared. But like Trump's approach to negotiating with NK, Trump always knows best. As such he has no need for expert opinions or plans and will continue to make decisions on the fly. It's the way of dictatorships, but no way to run a representative democracy.

Like many conservatives, I don't want completely open borders either. But turning away refugees who're fleeing war or persecution is un-American. Always has been, always should be. If legal immigration results in whites eventually becoming a minority, so be it. Conservatives who have a problem with that can cry me a river...
 
SoCal said:
Children should not be separated in the first place. I would continue with the procedure in place before Trump decided to start abusing children. Even Republicans are outraged at his new policy decision.

At least a handful of moral Republicans will stoop only so low, imagine that. I don't know the details yet, but Cruz's proposal sounds like a good place to start overturning this outrage...
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The Trump administration is enforcing the law, by law the children of detainees are not allowed to be kept in detention with their parents, therefore separation occurs. The previous administrations did the same though not at such a high rate. Until the law is changed what does one do with the children ??
 
hanger4 said:
The Trump administration is enforcing the law, by law the children of detainees are not allowed to be kept in detention with their parents, therefore separation occurs. The previous administrations did the same though not at such a high rate. Until the law is changed what does one do with the children ??
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Click for your answer:

 
hanger4 said:
I didn't say it was previous administrations policy, I said it happened also.
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You obviously didn't read the clicked article. Let me help you:

While the Obama administration's immigration approach was not without controversy, it’s simply untrue to say he had a policy of separating families.
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A good number of these people are adult migrants traveling with children. By law, when adults are detained and criminally prosecuted, their children cannot be housed with them in jail. Instead, kids are placed in a Department of Health and Human Services shelter until they can be released to a legal guardian.
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That's it, right? Not quite. Read on:

Immigration experts we spoke to said Obama-era policies did lead to some family separations, but only relatively rarely, and nowhere near the rate of the Trump administration. (A Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman said the Obama administration did not count the number of families separated at the border.)

"Obama generally refrained from prosecution in cases involving adults who crossed the border with their kids," said Peter Margulies, an immigration law and national security law professor at Roger Williams University School of Law. "In contrast, the current administration has chosen to prosecute adult border-crossers, even when they have kids. That's a choice — one fundamentally different from the choice made by both Obama and previous presidents of both parties."
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For your information, our side was not afraid to criticize Obama when the criticism was reasonable. Why is your side unable to do so with Trump?
 
Phys251 said:
You obviously didn't read the clicked article. Let me help you:





That's it, right? Not quite. Read on:



For your information, our side was not afraid to criticize Obama when the criticism was reasonable. Why is your side unable to do so with Trump?
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Actually you just made my points;

*By law, when adults are detained and criminally prosecuted, their children cannot be housed with them in jail.*

And;

*nowhere near the rate of the Trump administration.*

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hanger4 said:
Actually you just made my points;

*By law, when adults are detained and criminally prosecuted, their children cannot be housed with them in jail.*

And;

*nowhere near the rate of the Trump administration.*

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People are not normally jailed for misdemeanors.
 
hanger4 said:
Actually you just made my points;

*By law, when adults are detained and criminally prosecuted, their children cannot be housed with them in jail.*

And;

*nowhere near the rate of the Trump administration.*

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Nowhere near the rate of the Trump administration! Exactly. Baby steps.
 
Phys251 said:
Nowhere near the rate of the Trump administration! Exactly. Baby steps.
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I take you back to my post you responded to;

hanger4 said:
The Trump administration is enforcing the law, by law the children of detainees are not allowed to be kept in detention with their parents, therefore separation occurs. The previous administrations did the same though not at such a high rate. Until the law is changed what does one do with the children ??
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Your link and C&P from your link verified what I posted. You owned yourself. Stop digging.
 
Phys251 said:
A weekend at Chucky Cheese? Are you ****ing kidding me? If it's so great then why don't you go visit one of these fun places?



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What I do know is a lot of these "families" that cross these borders are fake families. You act like fraud does not exist among illegal immigrants. How many illegal immigrants engage in sham weddings?

Let me tell you what, I have been offered at least 10 times by illegal immigrants to sponsor them as their "landlord" so they can get a driver's license. All I had to do was prepare some fake documentation and I could help them stay in this country.

Out of moral principle I rejected these bribes, even though services were offered to me.
 
Bucky said:
What I do know is a lot of these "families" that cross these borders are fake families.
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You can just stop right there with the deplorable conspiracy theories and the enabling of literal torture. I will not entertain your pathetic lies.
 
hanger4 said:
I take you back to my post you responded to;

Your link and C&P from your link verified what I posted. You owned yourself. Stop digging.
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I see that you have progressed to the stage of lying where a source says something that it categorically does not say.

Clearly nothing that anyone posts that doesn't suit your agenda will be accepted by you.

Your president it a liar and an enabler of torture.
 
Phys251 said:
I see that you have progressed to the stage of lying where a source says something that it categorically does not say.

Clearly nothing that anyone posts that doesn't suit your agenda will be accepted by you.

Your president it a liar and an enabler of torture.
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I haven't and I don't lie. Your link and C&P from your link verified what I posted that you responded to;

hanger4 said:
The Trump administration is enforcing the law, by law the children of detainees are not allowed to be kept in detention with their parents, therefore separation occurs. The previous administrations did the same though not at such a high rate. Until the law is changed what does one do with the children ??
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Show me the lie ??

I suggest you take some reading comprehension courses.
 
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