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Laura Bush: Separating families at border is 'cruel' and 'immoral'

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Laura Bush: Separating families at border is 'cruel' and 'immoral'

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Former First Lady Laura Bush

6/18/18
In an unusual break from her political retirement, former first lady Laura Bush condemned the Trump administration’s practice of separating parents and children while their parents are prosecuted for illegally entering the country. “I live in a border state. I appreciate the need to enforce and protect our international boundaries, but this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart,” she wrote in a Washington Post article published on Sunday. While the president has falsely claimed that he does not have a choice on breaking up families and says it is because of a law passed by Democrats, Bush laid the blame squarely with the president’s policies — namely, the Department of Justice’s “zero tolerance” policy with which it began. In her Op-Ed, Bush appealed to Americans’ sense of morality and painted the policy as a dark stain on the nation’s history that she compared to the HIV/AIDS crisis and Japanese internment.

"These images are eerily reminiscent of the Japanese American internment camps of World War II, now considered to have been one of the most shameful episodes in U.S. history. We also know that this treatment inflicts trauma; interned Japanese have been two times as likely to suffer cardiovascular disease or die prematurely than those who were not interned," she wrote. Bush left the White House nearly a decade ago as a very popular figure; she had maintained that popularity through husband George W. Bush's two terms, too. She is more popular than current first lady Melania Trump, who also issued a statement on Sunday, noting that she "hates" to see the separation of children from their parents and and calling for "both sides" to come together for immigration reform. Bush in her piece concluded: "In 2018, can we not as a nation find a kinder, more compassionate and more moral answer to this current crisis? I, for one, believe we can."
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When so many people of various political/religious persuasion condemn the Trump/Sessions order to separate migrant families, it speaks volumes about the unethical and morally bankrupt Trump administration.

Related: Laura Bush pens scathing column on child separation as part of immigration policy

Trump says US policy separating migrant families is law. It's not.
 
In the alternate reality that is occupied by Trump and his adoring Trumpkin cult - there is no such policy. :shock:

So never mind. :doh:roll:
 
haymarket said:
In the alternate reality that is occupied by Trump and his adoring Trumpkin cult - there is no such policy. :shock:

So never mind. :doh:roll:
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Even more bizarre, the DHS secretary says it’s not happening:

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This differs from the other positions of the Trump administration:

1) its all the Democrats fault (Trump)

2) it’s a deterrence policy (Sessions, Kelly).

It’s such a bizarre spectacle, you have to wonder about the mental stability of anyone who defends this administration anymore.
 
Threegoofs said:
Even more bizarre, the DHS secretary says it’s not happening:

Twitter

This differs from the other positions of the Trump administration:

1) its all the Democrats fault (Trump)

2) it’s a deterrence policy (Sessions, Kelly).

It’s such a bizarre spectacle, you have to wonder about the mental stability of anyone who defends this administration anymore.
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True enough. The ethical health of the Trump administration flat-lined a long time ago.
 
Rogue Valley said:
True enough. The ethical health of the Trump administration flat-lined a long time ago.
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Another explanation can be found in Orwell’s 1984:

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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Rogue Valley said:
Laura Bush: Separating families at border is 'cruel' and 'immoral'

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Former First Lady Laura Bush



When so many people of various political/religious persuasion condemn the Trump/Sessions order to separate migrant families, it speaks volumes about the unethical and morally bankrupt Trump administration.

Related: Laura Bush pens scathing column on child separation as part of immigration policy

Trump says US policy separating migrant families is law. It's not.
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You should look at the threads in the other section on this subject. The citizens of Trump Fan Nation disagree with you and Laura. In fact, a few of them were proud to admit the kids should just go back to where they came from and they didn't care what happened to them.

It's an eye opening subject for sure. The compassion from the alt-right only extends to children in the womb. Or should I say entities in the womb who will eventually become children but are not today. Bonus points if you're in a white woman's womb and your sperm came from a white man.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Laura Bush: Separating families at border is 'cruel' and 'immoral'

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Former First Lady Laura Bush



When so many people of various political/religious persuasion condemn the Trump/Sessions order to separate migrant families, it speaks volumes about the unethical and morally bankrupt Trump administration.

Related: Laura Bush pens scathing column on child separation as part of immigration policy

Trump says US policy separating migrant families is law. It's not.
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As the separation pertains and occurs in regards to a subject arrested for a crime of illegal border crossing, subsequently charged and held, the kid/child cannot accompany the arrested subject to jail.
 
Add in Jeb's statement as well.

I said it over and over again, I like the Bush family.

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tres borrachos said:
You should look at the threads in the other section on this subject. The citizens of Trump Fan Nation disagree with you and Laura. In fact, a few of them were proud to admit the kids should just go back to where they came from and they didn't care what happened to them.

It's an eye opening subject for sure. The compassion from the alt-right only extends to children in the womb. Or should I say entities in the womb who will eventually become children but are not today. Bonus points if you're in a white woman's womb and your sperm came from a white man.
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I'm sure they'd also cheer this:

A family was separated at the Texas border, and the distraught father took his own life

A Honduran father separated from his wife and child suffered a breakdown at a Texas jail and killed himself in a padded cell last month, according to Border Patrol agents and an incident report filed by sheriff's deputies.​

I already know their response. Get mad at the dead man and point fingers at him for being wrong about trying to help his family escape Honduran gang violence.
 
poweRob said:
I'm sure they'd also cheer this:

A family was separated at the Texas border, and the distraught father took his own life

A Honduran father separated from his wife and child suffered a breakdown at a Texas jail and killed himself in a padded cell last month, according to Border Patrol agents and an incident report filed by sheriff's deputies.​

I already know their response. Get mad at the dead man and point fingers at him for being wrong about trying to help his family escape Honduran gang violence.
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Read for yourself. Not only were some cheering at that news, some actually said they wanted to see more of this happening.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news-non-msm/321443-honduran-man-killed-himself-after-border-patrol-separated-him-his-family.html

I've always been involved in animal charities and not people charities. Just my choice. But I'm also not a monster. Trump Nation is its own particular island, and people with brains (and hearts) want no part of it.
 
poweRob said:
I'm sure they'd also cheer this:

A family was separated at the Texas border, and the distraught father took his own life

A Honduran father separated from his wife and child suffered a breakdown at a Texas jail and killed himself in a padded cell last month, according to Border Patrol agents and an incident report filed by sheriff's deputies.​

I already know their response. Get mad at the dead man and point fingers at him for being wrong about trying to help his family escape Honduran gang violence.
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This is an unfortunate outcome but apparently, he committed a crime by illegally entering the U.S., there was probable cause to believe he had illegally entered into the U.S., and he was being arrested for the crime of unlawful entry into the U.S. His family cannot join him in jail, especially not his kids.
 
NotreDame said:
This is an unfortunate outcome but apparently, he committed a crime by illegally entering the U.S., there was probable cause to believe he had illegally entered into the U.S., and he was being arrested for the crime of unlawful entry into the U.S. His family cannot join him in jail, especially not his kids.
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Oh noes!

What can we do?

The administration’s hands are tied!


It’s the Democrats fault for not fixing this!
 
Threegoofs said:
Oh noes!

What can we do?

The administration’s hands are tied!


It’s the Democrats fault for not fixing this!
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I could not care less who is to blame for not fixing it, needing to fix it, etcetera.

The fact is illegally crossing the border is a crime and a person arrested for this offense cannot have their children accompanying them to jail.
 
So, if Trump stays true to form, it shouldn't be too long before he calls Mrs. Bush an ugly old hag, or a bitch, or something like that. I mean, that is his usual modus operandi when challenged or criticized. Will the Trumptards get on board with that? I'm thinking they will.
 
Captain America said:
So, if Trump stays true to form, it shouldn't be too long before he calls Mrs. Bush an ugly old hag, or a bitch, or something like that. I mean, that is his usual modus operandi when challenged or criticized. Will the Trumptards get on board with that? I'm thinking they will.
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Of course they will get on board. They do exactly what Trump tells them to do. They think exactly as he instructs them to think. That's what happens in cults.
 
tres borrachos said:
Of course they will get on board. They do exactly what Trump tells them to do. They think exactly as he instructs them to think. That's what happens in cults.
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Perhaps they are waiting for the approval of High Priest Hannity and their marching orders.

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i agree with Laura Bush on this issue.
 
Threegoofs said:
Oh noes!

What can we do?

The administration’s hands are tied!


It’s the Democrats fault for not fixing this!
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Depending on which Republican you ask and when:

1) It's our administrative policy

2) It's the long-standing law

3) The Democrats created this law

4) There is no policy or law

What they all have in common: we don't want to change what's happening.

Profiles in Courage.

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Fiddytree said:
Depending on which Republican you ask and when:

1) It's our administrative policy

2) It's the long-standing law

3) The Democrats created this law

4) There is no policy or law

What they all have in common: we don't want to change what's happening.

Profiles in Courage.

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Everytime I think the Trump Administration can’t go lower....they do.

And everytime I think that Trump supporters surely, THIS TIME, have to see the absurdity and lies and abandon support... they double down.
 
Threegoofs said:
Everytime I think the Trump Administration can’t go lower....they do.

And everytime I think that Trump supporters surely, THIS TIME, have to see the absurdity and lies and abandon support... they double down.
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Moral degenerates and voyeuristic losers can always be depended on to defend the indefensible.

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Threegoofs said:
Even more bizarre, the DHS secretary says it’s not happening:

Twitter

This differs from the other positions of the Trump administration:

1) its all the Democrats fault (Trump)

2) it’s a deterrence policy (Sessions, Kelly).

It’s such a bizarre spectacle, you have to wonder about the mental stability of anyone who defends this administration anymore.
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I have long ago come to that conclusion.
 
NotreDame said:
No, I am not mistaken. The subject is arrested for illegal border crossing and children cannot accompany the arrested subject to jail.
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If the "subject" is seeking asylum s/he and children should not be arrested. Children could accompany parents to camps set up to screen them. US law says asylum can be considered "irrespective of status." The practice violates the spirit and letter of domestic and international law the US is bound by. Also impractical, as some minors may be needed as witnesses in an asylum claim. It is Sessions' zero tolerance policy that brought this about, and the false equation you present. If you were the Thai leader, would you have arrested Vietnamese who fled in the 70s? Should Turkey and other nations arrest Syrian refugees? Or perhaps all the Hondurans should say they are Cubans.
 
Nickyjo said:
If the "subject" is seeking asylum s/he and children should not be arrested. Children could accompany parents to camps set up to screen them. US law says asylum can be considered "irrespective of status." The practice violates the spirit and letter of domestic and international law the US is bound by. Also impractical, as some minors may be needed as witnesses in an asylum claim. It is Sessions' zero tolerance policy that brought this about, and the false equation you present. If you were the Thai leader, would you have arrested Vietnamese who fled in the 70s? Should Turkey and other nations arrest Syrian refugees? Or perhaps all the Hondurans should say they are Cubans.
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Sessions is not to blame. None of this happens without someone someone illegally crossing the border.

If they lawfully present themselves at proper border patrol points or designated points of entry, to have their asylum claims considered, then we aren’t having this dialogue of separating people who illegally enter the country. They have a choice, lawfully present yourself or illegally enter. If they choose to enter illegally, then they’ve committed a crime and are subject to arrest, detainment, charged, and prosecution, all of which is the result of illegal entry.


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