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Kathy Griffin’s profanity-laced rant at Melania Trump: 'F--- you, Melanie'

Hawkeye10 said:
You continue to fail point out the lie you claim exists.

There is nothing that is in that quote that is wrong even, much less a lie.

You made a charge against me, now you are honor bound to present your evidence.
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I copied it twice. Later.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
I copied it twice. Later.
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You have posted a quote claiming that it contains a lie someplace, and refused to point out which words you are considering to be a lie. Almost certainly the problem is that you have failed to comprehend something that should have been easy for you to comprehend, but since you refuse to do anything but drive-by insult we cant nail down the problem.
 
Rob Larrikin said:
Liberal comedian Kathy Griffin, who famously posed with a fake severed head of President Trump, took a vicious new swing at the first lady over the immigration controversy on Sunday.

The first lady had weighed in earlier in the day. “Mrs. Trump hates to see children separated from their families & hopes both sides of the aisle can finally come together to achieve successful immigration reform. She believes we need to be a country that follows all laws but also a country that governs w/heart,” her office told Fox News.

Griffin then tweeted: “F--- you, Melanie. You know damn well your husband can end this immediately...you feckless complicit piece of s---.”

More:

Kathy Griffin unleashes profanity-laced tirade at Melania Trump: 'F--- you, Melanie' | Fox News​
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Of course this comes as no surprise. The bitter Left love using ad hominem and abuse in place of debate.
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Truth hurts
 
Hawkeye10 said:
You have posted a quote claiming that it contains a lie someplace, and refused to point out which words you are considering to be a lie. Almost certainly the problem is that you have failed to comprehend something that should have been easy for you to comprehend, but since you refuse to do anything but drive-by insult we cant nail down the problem.
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You claimed that the law had to be changed and that the lawless days of the US are over because the shower drain clog who lives in the WH told you to say so. You lied and you can't even deal with it like an adult. These are the days in which we live. Pathetic.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
You claimed that the law had to be changed and that the lawless days of the US are over because the shower drain clog who lives in the WH told you to say so. You lied and you can't even deal with it like an adult. These are the days in which we live. Pathetic.
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I sad that the law should be changed (not has to) if folks are not happy with what the law allows, and I made a call for getting the law right ("has to be over" is a call to action) , which comes from me...I do not speak for Trump nor does he control either my mind or my mouth.

You are wrong in so many ways that I must conclude that your ignorance is willful.
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
I sad that the law should be changed (not has to) if folks are not happy with what the law allows, and I made a call for getting the law right ("has to be over" is a call to action) , which comes from me...I do not speak for Trump nor does he control either my mind or my mouth.

You are wrong in so many ways that I must conclude that your ignorance is willful.
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Mmhmm. But the law didn't change. 45 just undid everything all of the morons have been reciting as gospel for weeks. And you pretend like your posts come from the straight face of a serious person who can discuss these topics with any credibility. You should apply for press secretary. I hear there will be an opening soon.
 
lurchadams said:
LOL - you call the left bitter, but engage in calling out the entire left as, "bitter".
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The use of ‘entire’ was yours. I said, “The bitter Left love using ad hominem and abuse in place of debate.’

‘The Left’ refers to the Left’s leaders mostly. Not my cleaning lady, who may vote for the Left but doesn’t really understand politics. She’s not bitter – she’s just following her parent’s advice in voting for the Left.
 
Rob Larrikin said:
The use of ‘entire’ was yours. I said, “The bitter Left love using ad hominem and abuse in place of debate.’

‘The Left’ refers to the Left’s leaders mostly. Not my cleaning lady, who may vote for the Left but doesn’t really understand politics. She’s not bitter – she’s just following her parent’s advice in voting for the Left.
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Well, that makes sense and I'll take your word for it. FYI - next time try saying, "some on the left", instead might clear up misunderstandings.

For example, "some on the left don't watch football", or "some on the right enjoy getting spanked by transvestite prostitutes".

Both are reasonable, and most likely true statements.
 
lurchadams said:
Well, that makes sense and I'll take your word for it. FYI - next time try saying, "some on the left", instead might clear up misunderstandings.

For example, "some on the left don't watch football", or "some on the right enjoy getting spanked by transvestite prostitutes".

Both are reasonable, and most likely true statements.
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When you refer to the Left you're talking about a group or party favoring liberal or socialist views, not individuals.
 
Rob Larrikin said:
When you refer to the Left you're talking about a group or party favoring liberal or socialist views, not individuals.
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I'm curious - what are you talking about when you refer to the right?
 
lurchadams said:
I'm curious - what are you talking about when you refer to the right?
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Conservatives. Now, I know that because of Fake News telling you for 73 years that Adolf was right winged, you think 'Right' means Nazi. That's a popular and much loved myth. Adolf was a National Socialist. So yes, he was a Leftie.
 
Rob Larrikin said:
Conservatives. Now, I know that because of Fake News telling you for 73 years that Adolf was right winged, you think 'Right' means Nazi. That's a popular and much loved myth. Adolf was a National Socialist. So yes, he was a Leftie.
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So you're saying Nazi's are either liberals or socialists? Remember you said that "the left" favor liberal or socialist views.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
You can't be serious.
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In three parts:

Hitler’s National Socialist Worker’s Party (The Nazi Party) nationalized factories, took over companies, dictated production to private corporations, set price and wage controls, destroyed large retail outlets, maintained universal health care, placed limits on stock dividends, controlled capital and the means of production. The Socialist label Hitler picked was very deliberately chosen, for very clear reasons.

For those who say that Hitler hated other socialists; so what? Hating other socialists doesn’t cancel out one’s socialism, just as hating other capitalists doesn’t cancel out one’s capitalism. Also, there are different types of socialists. Stalin killed Trotsky. Because the Nazis killed certain socialists is no argument that they themselves weren't socialists. Who says that socialist A can't kill socialist B? It happens throughout modern history.

As to the "outlawing of labor unions", this is evidence the Nazis were central planners. When a central government bans or outlaws any non-violent activity, it is evidence of central planning, not some free market or unregulated society.

Quite often Socialists purge or murder various groups, minorities and races. Hitler did this with Jews, blacks, gypsies, and others. The Soviet Union did the same with different groups, including Jews. Mao purged various groups too, as did Kim.

“In November 1948, Soviet authorities launched a campaign to liquidate what was left of Jewish culture. The leading members of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee were arrested. They were charged with treason, bourgeois nationalism and planning to set up a Jewish republic in Crimea to serve American interests. The Museum of Environmental Knowledge of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast (established in November 1944) and The Jewish Museum in Vilnius (established at the end of the war) were closed down in 1948. The Historical-Ethnographic Museum of Georgian Jewry, established in 1933, was shut down at the end of 1951.”

Stalin and antisemitism - Wikipedia

Nazis took over the means of production. Some examples include Junkers Flugzeug.

Junkers - Wikipedia

There was the automobile industry:

"Hitler envisioned widespread car ownership as part of the new Germany. He arranged for designer Ferdinand Porsche to draw up plans for the KdF-wagen (Strength Through Joy car), intended to be an automobile that every German citizen could afford."

Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Wage and price controls.

"Göring instituted wage and price controls and restricted the issuance of stock dividends."

Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

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Controlling retail stores

“The Nazis were determined to eliminate the presence of large department stores (many of which were owned by Jews), and began to implement policies to curb their influence and expansion. Strict licensing requirements and temporary bans (all of which became permanent even after their expiry date) were passed which had an immediate effect on retail."

Economy of Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Dictating to industry

Cars and other forms of motorized transport became increasingly attractive to the population, and the German motor industry boomed.[37] However, the government in Berlin banned many types of vehicles and allowed the production of only 19 different models of cars and trucks.[38] This decreased consumer choice and profits, and combined with rubber shortages to create what an American observer called, “drastic restrictions on the use of motor vehicles”.

Economy of Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

From the same link:

The British Marxist historian Timothy Mason, who was a leading expert on the economic history of Nazi Germany, argued that after the 1936 economic crisis, a "primacy of politics" prevailed with business interests being subordinated to the Nazi regime. In a 1966 essay, Mason wrote "that both the domestic and foreign policy of the National Socialist government became, from 1936 onward, increasing independent of the influence of the economic ruling classes, and even in some essential aspects ran contrary to their collective interests" and that "it became possible for the National Socialist state to assume a fully independent role, for the "primacy of politics" to assert itself". Mason used the following to support his thesis:

that after the 1936 economic crisis, German industrialists were increasingly excluded from the decision-making process…

that after 1936, the German state came to play an increasing dominant role in the German economy both through state-owned companies and by placing increasing larger orders.

that the expansion of armament-related production supported by a highly economically interventionist state led to those capitalist enterprises not related to armaments to go into decline.

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the decline in effectiveness in economic lobbying groups in the Third Reich

that though every major German industrialist called for a reduction of working class living standards from 1933 onwards, before 1942 the Nazi regime always ignored such calls, and sought instead to raise working class living standards

Let’s not forget Germany's Universal Health Care, which the Nazis kept.

So the National Socialist Workers’ Party takes over Germany, controls industries either directly (Junkers) or indirectly (automotive), institutes wage controls, instituted price controls, maintained universal health care, punished successful retail outlets (Jewish owned), deficit spent on massive public works projects, put arbitrary limits on stock dividends, (again, controlling capital), then committed mass murder just as other socialist regimes (Stalin, Mao, Kim, Fidel) have, and we’re expected to believe they had nothing to do with socialism!

After WWII, Socialists in the West were very embarrassed by revelations about National Socialist Hitler’s atrocities. They scurried to distance themselves from him, by labelling him a “right winged fascist.” This was to protect the Left from his actions. This was okay as long as the Liberal media were in charge of information, but when the internet came along, the myth was exposed. Today many millions are setting the record straight online. A Bing search for ‘Hitler was a socialist’ brings up millions of entries.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=yes+h...-26&sk=&cvid=44CC89CAE75F4A7C8D7200646D126FB5

That’s the Left for you. Always trying to change history to protect their own lying socialist asses.
 
Projection from the far right denying their heritage is quite pathetic really. Some of them actually believe the wild rationalisations! More to be pitied than scolded.
 
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