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Why is the left so easily capable of ignoring facts in order to push their narrative?

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From the black lives matter movement to illegal immigration, there is so much proof that their narrative is false, yet, they keep pushing them, calling those who point it out "racists" bigots", "xenophobes", etc?
 
I guess I'll answer your question with another question: Why is the right so easily capable of ignoring facts in order to push their narrative?
 
Why is the left so easily capable of ignoring facts in order to push their narrative?
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For precisely the same reasons "the right" is.
 
itsforthekids said:
From the black lives matter movement to illegal immigration, there is so much proof that their narrative is false, yet, they keep pushing them, calling those who point it out "racists" bigots", "xenophobes", etc?
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Agenda notwithstanding, it's fitting to point out the individuals from whom one sees exhibitions of the qualities and behaviors that militate for one's thinking the individual(s) observed/heard may well be a racist, bigot and/or xenophobe.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I guess I'll answer your question with another question: Why is the right so easily capable of ignoring facts in order to push their narrative?
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Okay, fair question. But here you go..."Hand's up, don't shoot!"....FALSE "Black men are shot by white cops at an alarming rate...much higher than white perps!".....FALSE "Illegal immigrants are far less violent and commit far fewer crimes than American citizens!"....FALSE to name a few. Look it up if you don't believe me.
 
itsforthekids said:
From the black lives matter movement to illegal immigration, there is so much proof that their narrative is false, yet, they keep pushing them, calling those who point it out "racists" bigots", "xenophobes", etc?
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Both sides do it. Has nothing to do with political lean, but with their own personality. Either they are open minded and can consider another's point of view, or not. Goes for anything.
 
itsforthekids said:
Okay, fair question. But here you go..."Hand's up, don't shoot!"....FALSE "Black men are shot by white cops at an alarming rate...much higher than white perps!".....FALSE "Illegal immigrants are far less violent and commit far fewer crimes than American citizens!"....FALSE to name a few. Look it up if you don't believe me.
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"Trump is an honest man!"...FALSE "Trump hasn't done anything wrong and should be immune from any and all prosecution!"....FALSE "Fox News is fair and balanced!"....FALSE!

Look it up if you don't believe me.
 
holbritter said:
Both sides do it. Has nothing to do with political lean, but with their own personality. Either they are open minded and can consider another's point of view, or not. Goes for anything.
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Letfies have yet to give an example. That's because the right doesn't use false narratives.
 
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itsforthekids said:
Okay, fair question. But here you go..."Hand's up, don't shoot!"....FALSE "Black men are shot by white cops at an alarming rate...much higher than white perps!".....FALSE "Illegal immigrants are far less violent and commit far fewer crimes than American citizens!"....FALSE to name a few. Look it up if you don't believe me.
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In absolute numbers, more white people are killed by police in the US. But it's fact that Blacks are more likely to be killed by police -- their population numbers are much lower. That's a fact.
 
Middleground said:
In absolute numbers, more white people are killed by police in the US. But it's fact that Blacks are more likely to be killed by police -- their population numbers are much lower. That's a fact.
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That's creative math
 
RabidAlpaca said:
"Trump is an honest man!"...FALSE "Trump hasn't done anything wrong and should be immune from any and all prosecution!"....FALSE "Fox News is fair and balanced!"....FALSE!

Look it up if you don't believe me.
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Those are simply disingenuous examples on your part.

What has to conscious effort to conflate and thus muddy issues. The specifics such as with the Michael Brown case, the hands up dont shoot false meme has been established forensically then decided in court of law to be false. This versus your, for example, "Trump hasn't done anything wrong and should be immune from any and all prosecution!".

What you are attemping is what a lot of the " " fact checkers" " often do. First, yours has two elements instead of the one, both of which have to be right to get a passing score. If only one is right, even 100% right, you get a failing grade of 50%. Subtle, clever, or rather cunning perhaps, tactic.

The Michael Brown one, already proven beyond shadow of doubt, against the two that have not been even properly investigated much less adjudicated one way or the other.

And if the first in your example were to ever be found true the second would be false in the overwhelming majority of cases. I know for myself, have said it plenty, to you even, specifically, that if Trump were ever credibly found to be traitorious that he need get the proper consequences.

Problem is, after 2 years of illegal and legal shennigans there is not a single item in evidence with which to prove that. So, WE argue, on this side, the both which go together with the current set of provable facts.

Not the same, NOT at all the same.

Disingenuously so not the same.
 
Middleground said:
Elaborate, please.
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I know the argument for the "proportionate to how many blacks vs whites in the population", which, imo may work for other circumstances when the whole of each population is participating. Using that as an argument doesn't fit because not all whites are committing crimes and not all blacks are committing crimes.

Of the number of people, black or white, running into police situations, more whites are shot than blacks. That is a fact backed up by real numbers. Not percentages based on population.

If you want to go by percentage of population then you could take into account where most crime and run in with police happens is in inner cities. These areas are typically more populated by blacks that whites. So if more whites are being shot than blacks by the number only and you use percentage of population, it shows the opposite of what you want it to.

I may not be explaining it in technically correct terms, as I'm not a statistical scholar. But I think you get what I mean.
 
itsforthekids said:
See, that's the false narrative that I'm talking about...

https://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler
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False narrative; from the right? Let's talk immigration:

Undocumented Americans pay $11.64 billion annually in state and local taxes.

Undocumented Americans pay $12 billion annually to the Social Security Trust Fund.

Immigration has an overall positive impact on long-run economic growth in the U.S.

Immigrants are more likely to start businesses than native-born Americans.

There are approximately 11 million undocumented Americans living in the United States today. (down from over 12 million in 2007)

140,000 more people have left the United States for Mexico between 2009 to 2014

US Undocumented Population Drops Below 11 Million in 2014, with Continued Declines in the Mexican Undocumented Population
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We don't have an immigration problem that requires a 20 Trillion dollar wall to solve. <--period

The Right would bankrupt our Country to keep people from coming here to wash our cloths, harvest and cook our food, clean our houses and hotels and generally do **** we don't want to even though we are at full employment.
 
itsforthekids said:
Okay, fair question. But here you go..."Hand's up, don't shoot!"....FALSE "Black men are shot by white cops at an alarming rate...much higher than white perps!".....FALSE "Illegal immigrants are far less violent and commit far fewer crimes than American citizens!"....FALSE to name a few. Look it up if you don't believe me.
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You have two false narratives in this post alone.
1) Black Lives Movement is organized around a false narrative. False: The only numbers we have show black people are 2.5 times more likely to be shot than white. And an unarmed black person is seven times more likely to be shot than an unarmed white person...However, it only gets worst as the percentage of black people in prison compared to white is a complete tragedy.
2) There are stacks of evidence that show immigrants do indeed commit fewer crimes....

Here are more conservative false narratives...Why do Republicans believe so many false narratives?l
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I guess I'll answer your question with another question: Why is the right so easily capable of ignoring facts in order to push their narrative?
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Almost. "Why are the Left and the Right so easily capable of ignoring facts in order to push their narrative?" The NEOCON narrative comes quickly to mind. It is neither right nor left, but an effort for World Domination. It's major ally is Military Offense and the MIC. Money, power and greed working hand in hand and buying lots of media and politicians, both left and right.
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StuPedaso said:
False narrative; from the right? Let's talk immigration:



We don't have an immigration problem that requires a 20 Trillion dollar wall to solve. <--period

The Right would bankrupt our Country to keep people from coming here to wash our cloths, harvest and cook our food, clean our houses and hotels and generally do **** we don't want to even though we are at full employment.
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20 trillion is another false narrative...but I digress. If they are "undocumented", where do those economic figures come from? Another false narrative. No one is looking to ban immigrants from coming here LEGALLY (a word that lefties ignore) to perform that labor...they've been doing it for generations. The difference is, they used to go home after the harvest, or they truly migrated, following the different harvests. They were LEGAL workers. Try to use that word when it's a fact...but you won't...saying that republicans are against immigration is far too juicy and emotional....don't let facts get in the way.
 
Finch said:
You have two false narratives in this post alone.
1) Black Lives Movement is organized around a false narrative. False: The only numbers we have show black people are 2.5 times more likely to be shot than white. And an unarmed black person is seven times more likely to be shot than an unarmed white person...However, it only gets worst as the percentage of black people in prison compared to white is a complete tragedy.
2) There are stacks of evidence that show immigrants do indeed commit fewer crimes....

Here are more conservative false narratives...Why do Republicans believe so many false narratives?l
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The narrative was false to start with...that an innocent unarmed black man was shot in the back by a cop while holding his hands up. That was dirtbag micheal brown, who the media tried to make look like a honor student preparing for college when the big, mean cop shot him for no reason. That was a lie...the autopsy report proved it. Yet, the left still used it as the narrative.
 
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