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Clinton Charitable Foundation is NOT Being Sued for Fraud - Why Not?

Sampson Simpson said:
Yup, Republican president, Republican house, republican senate, yet its a conspiracy to protect Hillary after 20 years of trying to take here down. These people have to be trolls,that many people can't be that stupid, can they?
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Imho, it's only tangentially related to intelligence.
Intelligence is not much of a defense against rational irrationality
Though, a lack of knowledge can make one more susceptible.

But it's a human race thing.
We're all affected.

There really isn't a Them.
It's all US.
 
MrWonderful said:
While the Trump Derangement Syndrome crowd goes crazier than ever about the lawsuit brought against the Donald J. Trump Foundation, why is there no similar outrage and litigation against the Clinton Charitable Foundation? ("Charitable" does not appear in DJTF)

Hillary and Bubba raked in some $184,000,000 in 2014 ALONE, and paid out just over $5 million to charities.
Crickets chirping. No litigation. No prosecution for fraud. Democrats seem to be untouchable. Republicans are harassed, attacked, and sued for saying "Good morning," "God bless you," or "Merry Christmas."

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Why don't you just use Google to find out how the Clinton Foundation is structured and how it spends its money.

What Bill and Hillary Clinton's Controversial Foundation Actually Does

Since 2005, according to CGI, it has spawned initiatives that:

Raised $313 million for R&D into new vaccines and medicines;

Helped provide better maternal and child survival care to more than 110 million people, and;

Provided treatment for more than 36 million people with tropical diseases.
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MrWonderful said:
While the Trump Derangement Syndrome crowd goes crazier than ever about the lawsuit brought against the Donald J. Trump Foundation, why is there no similar outrage and litigation against the Clinton Charitable Foundation?
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Probably the same reason the IG report concluded there was no evidence to support the Republican claims that political bias affected important FBI decisions.
Similar to how 7+ investigations into Benghazi found no evidence that Hillary was responsible for what occurred.
Similar to how after 2 investigations into the IRS, that the inspectors concluded no political bias was responsible for the choices in the IRS targeting scandal.

The opposite of how Trump's national security directory, campaign chairman, and 3 other campaign members, are all indicted with real evidence that passed a grand jury.

Are you seeing pattern?
 
MrWonderful said:
While the Trump Derangement Syndrome crowd goes crazier than ever about the lawsuit brought against the Donald J. Trump Foundation, why is there no similar outrage and litigation against the Clinton Charitable Foundation? ("Charitable" does not appear in DJTF)

Hillary and Bubba raked in some $184,000,000 in 2014 ALONE, and paid out just over $5 million to charities.
Crickets chirping. No litigation. No prosecution for fraud. Democrats seem to be untouchable. Republicans are harassed, attacked, and sued for saying "Good morning," "God bless you," or "Merry Christmas."
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The Clinton Foundation does most of its charity directly rather than just writing checks to other charities. Hopes this clears it up for you, have a nice day!
 
MrWonderful said:
Brilliant. Really.
Monica Lewinsky, giving President Clinton blowjobs in the Oval Office. Democrats yawn.
Hillary giving away 20% of America's uranium to Russia. Democrats yawn.
Four men dead at Benghazzi, followed by coverup. You could care less.
Clinton Charitable Foundation - fraudulent play for pay scheme, covered up by destroying 30,000 emails on an illegal server.
Destruction of evidence sought by congress in that matter? Oh look at Trump's small hands.
Hillary given debate questions, and having NOTHING to show for her time as senator or secretary of state? "Most qualified" by YOUR *standards*
The DNC should be prosecuted under the RICO Act.
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I knew Sean Smith and you right wingers need to shut the **** up about Benghazi because you don't know anything other than what that horse**** propaganda told you.
 
Sampson Simpson said:
Indictments in all the cases brought up against Hillary= 0

Investigation into Trump= 21 indictments, guilty pleas.

Just stop with the dumb right wingers, you are embarrasing yourself
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SHHHHHH!!!! Quiet, you fool! You'll absolutely RUIN the manufactured outrage and false narrative!!!
 
Deuce said:
I knew Sean Smith and you right wingers need to shut the **** up about Benghazi because you don't know anything other than what that horse**** propaganda told you.
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Seeing the canned replies that selectively quote irrelevant text from the IG report, while ignoring the surrounding conclusions, over and over...today I'm of the mind that these posters are literally spam trolls for the party. How can it be otherwise? Tomorrow I will go back to thinking they are just muck dwellers I'm sure, but the coordinated "Push" of a narrative that is too stupid for words....normal humans just don't do that. Do they!?! It's unimaginably stupid and obvious.
 
MrWonderful said:
While the Trump Derangement Syndrome crowd goes crazier than ever about the lawsuit brought against the Donald J. Trump Foundation, why is there no similar outrage and litigation against the Clinton Charitable Foundation?
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Hillary Clinton is not the President of the United States. She does not have access to nuclear weapons. She is not starting trade wars. She is not running a massive deficit for no reason. She is no attacking our allies while praising the strong leadership of a murderous dictator.
 
MrWonderful said:
While the Trump Derangement Syndrome crowd goes crazier than ever about the lawsuit brought against the Donald J. Trump Foundation, why is there no similar outrage and litigation against the Clinton Charitable Foundation? ("Charitable" does not appear in DJTF)

Hillary and Bubba raked in some $184,000,000 in 2014 ALONE, and paid out just over $5 million to charities.
Crickets chirping. No litigation. No prosecution for fraud. Democrats seem to be untouchable. Republicans are harassed, attacked, and sued for saying "Good morning," "God bless you," or "Merry Christmas."
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CF is NOT a foundation whose primary function is to donate to other charities.

CF IS THE CHARITY DOING THE CHARITABLE WORK. CF employers 2000 people worldwide

Trump foundation, however, is a criminal foundation and just an empty shell, there are no people, no buildings, nothing, it's Trump's private slush fund where he uses donors money for private benefit.

Not ONE CENT of CF funds go to the Clintons.

Trump foundation is nothing but a scam. THAT is why CF and Clintons are not being sued, or prosecuted.

QUIT LYING.

Trump IS A CRIMINAL. We now have SMOKING GUN evidence.

WTFU
 
What if...? said:
Boy, thats a stupid post.

What the **** are you trying to say?

That the Clinton's not donating enough to charity is some ****ing how the same as the trump family abusing their charity?

That's some boss level stupid right there.
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There isn t a silver bullet pill that automatically informs you of at least the minimum, however...

If youve got the least bit of intellectual gumption, watch this with an open ( to some: Mission Impossible ) mind. It variously hits the Bushs, gives some very tantilizing tidbits re: Comedy & the Muel, gives a bit of a primer on the requirements, minimum mind you, of charitable foundations, etc.

The instructor for this class is one Charles Ortel, the tenacious independent investigator that figured out the complexities that exposed General Electric. He has since turned his adept focus to charity fraud ...and guess where that led him?

A Harvard MBA Guy Is Out to Bring Down the Clintons


 
MrWonderful said:
While the Trump Derangement Syndrome crowd goes crazier than ever about the lawsuit brought against the Donald J. Trump Foundation, why is there no similar outrage and litigation against the Clinton Charitable Foundation? ("Charitable" does not appear in DJTF)

Hillary and Bubba raked in some $184,000,000 in 2014 ALONE, and paid out just over $5 million to charities.
Crickets chirping. No litigation. No prosecution for fraud. Democrats seem to be untouchable. Republicans are harassed, attacked, and sued for saying "Good morning," "God bless you," or "Merry Christmas."

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Did the Clintons use their foundation to purchase a portrait of Bill? Do they use the money to pay off lawsuits won against them for their fraudulent schemes? Is the Clinton Foundation being sued for misuse of funds?

No, because 89% of Clinton Foundation money is used for charity.
 
MovingPictures said:
It's comedic to watch them accuse others of Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS), when for over two decades conservatives have cooked up dozens of allegations against the Clinton's.

Whitewater, TravelGate, TrooperGate, FileGate, Monica, Bengazzi, Emails, and their foundations. No matter how many times republicans lead investigations clear them, they continue in their lies and propaganda anyways - hoping someday, they'll finally "get" the Clinton's, and realize their wet dream of jailing their opposition.

That's not derangement, that's a full on mental illness.
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All of those gates you mention are manufactured by the right. After wasting millions of taxpayer dollars chasing ghosts on the Clintons, what have they found they can prosecute them with?

NOTHING.

And they have been pursuing them for 25 years, and they are still standing.


What have they found regarding the Mueller investigation, the first real investigation on Trump?


22 indictments, 5 guilty please, and Mueller hasn't gotten to Trump yet.


Dems aren't suffering from anything, repubs are lemmings Following their pied piper right over the cliff.



My gawd you guys are mindbogglingly deluded.
 
I don't know if the Clinton's will ever be prosecuted for their crimes. It would appear that one of their highest skills is getting away with it. They are well connected and are never quite so overt as to push charges.

That being said, this is just another "Clinton's Did It" deflection thread. The Trumps were running a scam posing as a charitable foundation. The possibility of the Clinton's having done something similar doesn't some how make what the Trump's did OK or even legal. It seems to me that the Trumpeteer Defense Syndrome kicks in and the only real thing these TDSers can offer up is deflection since the actual acts cannot be defended.
 
MrWonderful said:
While the Trump Derangement Syndrome crowd goes crazier than ever about the lawsuit brought against the Donald J. Trump Foundation, why is there no similar outrage and litigation against the Clinton Charitable Foundation? ("Charitable" does not appear in DJTF)

Hillary and Bubba raked in some $184,000,000 in 2014 ALONE, and paid out just over $5 million to charities.
Crickets chirping. No litigation. No prosecution for fraud. Democrats seem to be untouchable. Republicans are harassed, attacked, and sued for saying "Good morning," "God bless you," or "Merry Christmas."

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Because Hillary Clinton didn't pay her private bills with charity money. She didn't conduct business out of it. The Clinton Foundation is one of the most well known and highly regarded charitable organizations in the world. Quit making stuff up.
 
Oborosen said:
We are going to get nothing but cricket when it comes to this, especially from the left. They don't really care and any of them that speak up in support of the notion that the Clintons aren't who they pretend to be. Will either be shouted down from their position, or tucked away so no one can hear, or see them for a long time.

The Clinton foundation is nothing but a slush fund and even with Trump being put under a microscope, they most likely wont find anything. Which also means they wont see the literal billboard of "we are ****ing criminals" bolted to the top of the Clinton foundation reps foreheads.

Got to love the left with all the creeps they fight to protect, these days especially.
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Please provide evidence of CF being a "slush fund".


Most likely won't find anything?

How Big A Deal Is New York State's Lawsuit Against The Trump Foundation? - Digg
At one point, during a deposition, a New York state investigator asked Allen Weisselberg — a Trump Organization employee who was also listed as treasurer for the Trump Foundation — whether the foundation had a policy for determining which specific payments the foundation was allowed to make.


"There's no policy, just so you understand," Weisselberg said. The interviewer asked whether Weisselberg had understood that he was actually on the board of the Trump Foundation, and had been for more than a decade.


"I did not," Weisselberg replied.
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And,

A piece of smoking gun evidence supplied to the NY AG Barbara Underwood in a lawsuit against Trump which a note in Trump's handwriting instructing the foundation to pay $100,000 to a charity as ordered in a settlement with the city of Palm Beach over the placement of a flag pole at Mar-a-Lago

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Note that the lawsuit required Trump to pay $100,000 in a settlement, and he paid it using Trump foundation funds, not out of his pocket.

YOu can't use your foundation's funds to pay your legal fines. His foundation wasn't being sued, Trump was being sued. This is just the tip of the ICE BERG.


For starters.
 
Sampson Simpson said:
Indictments in all the cases brought up against Hillary= 0

Investigation into Trump= 21 indictments, guilty pleas.

Just stop with the dumb right wingers, you are embarrasing yourself
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Whitewater had no indictmets? Everybody around the Clintfelons, the Hillbillarys, went to jail, including their Lt Gov. The people that had the real goods shut their mouths and went to jail protecting them. No doubt a life affirming move. I think there were 95 indictments?

Thats just the tip of the iceberg, paying out $800k in settlement to Paula Jones, Blue dressDNAgate, wherein Billy boy himself committed perjury twice and also subornbed perjury, got only a slap on the wrist. You surely cannot count the now disgraced FBI investigation/false exoneration into a clearly identified guilty Hillary in the emails scandal by a complicit Slendermans DOJ as being free from the future indictments balance sheet, right?

You should be ashamed, but apparently liberals are born lacking such capacities.
 
Ikari said:
I don't know if the Clinton's will ever be prosecuted for their crimes. It would appear that one of their highest skills is getting away with it. They are well connected and are never quite so overt as to push charges.

That being said, this is just another "Clinton's Did It" deflection thread. The Trumps were running a scam posing as a charitable foundation. The possibility of the Clinton's having done something similar doesn't some how make what the Trump's did OK or even legal. It seems to me that the Trumpeteer Defense Syndrome kicks in and the only real thing these TDSers can offer up is deflection since the actual acts cannot be defended.
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Trump Defense Syndrome, hey, I like that.
 
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OscarLevant said:
Because the Clinton's haven't committed any crimes that a prosecutor is willing to put his or her John Hancock to the charge.

Why, because all the accusations of alleged crimes are of the ambiguous variety. What does that mean? It means that the Clintons know where the line is, and though they walk right up to it, make it squeal, they don't actually cross it to a degree which is so unambiguous a prosecutor in a high stakes case is going to prosecute. There is no "smoking gun" level evidence, which means, for prosecutorial purposes, there is no evidence, and that is what you need, ....."evidence".
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I don't know about "don't actually cross the line". I think they do oft cross the line, but are careful about doing so. They aren't overt about it, they hide their tracks well enough not to push charges against them. If you go after the Clinton's, you'd better expect a ****storm coming back your way. They are very well connected and quite given to retribution. So not many even want to look into things, because it could backfire in spectacular manners. So unless the "smoking gun" is left sitting on a desk (not unlike Vince Foster) no one's really going after it. There will be some political things, but nothing comes of it because the Clinton's are smart about their crimes, rich, and well connected enough to ensure they don't go anywhere.

OscarLevant said:
But, on Trump, there is smoking gun evidence.
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Well Trump is just not as smart as the Clintons.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Whitewater had no indictmets? Everybody around the Clintfelons, the Hillbillarys, went to jail, including their Lt Gov. The people that had the real goods shut their mouths and went to jail protecting them. No doubt a life affirming move. I think there were 95 indictments?

Thats just the tip of the iceberg, paying out $800k in settlement to Paula Jones, Blue dressDNAgate, wherein Billy boy himself committed perjury twice and also subornbed perjury, got only a slap on the wrist. You surely cannot count the now disgraced FBI investigation/false exoneration into a clearly identified guilty Hillary in the emails scandal by a complicit Slendermans DOJ as being free from the future indictments balance sheet, right?

You should be ashamed, but apparently liberals are born lacking such capacities.
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Yeah, perjury for lying about sex, well, being a man, myself, I can speak on good authority that any man will lie to GOD Himself, let alone Congress, about sex.

No, I know a lot of Dems are very sad about Bill, and he is not being held in a good light. But he wasn't the bloviating blowhard incessant liar that Trump is who destroyed the EPA, ( and tons of other evil crap ) who can't even utter a compound sentence.

Why are Trump's lawyers refusing to let Trump testify? There is only one reason: they KNOW he is a pathological liar and will be unable to tell the truth. It's common knowledge.

And the mountain of Trump's crimes will come to light, and it will make Bill look like a boy scout, by comparison.

You can do the what about thing till kingdom come, noting that Bill was what, how many frickin' years ago? accuse dems of being shameless, yet there you are, not once ounce of shame for the guy you put if office.
 
Ikari said:
I don't know about "don't actually cross the line". I think they do oft cross the line, but are careful about doing so. They aren't overt about it, they hide their tracks well enough not to push charges against them. If you go after the Clinton's, you'd better expect a ****storm coming back your way. They are very well connected and quite given to retribution. So not many even want to look into things, because it could backfire in spectacular manners. So unless the "smoking gun" is left sitting on a desk (not unlike Vince Foster) no one's really going after it. There will be some political things, but nothing comes of it because the Clinton's are smart about their crimes, rich, and well connected enough to ensure they don't go anywhere.



Well Trump is just not as smart as the Clintons.
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Trump, in point of fact, is rather stupid.
 
MrWonderful said:
Brilliant. Really.
Monica Lewinsky, giving President Clinton blowjobs in the Oval Office. Democrats yawn.
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Consential sex, yeah, yawn. No $130,000 to cover it up, either.
Hillary giving away 20% of America's uranium to Russia. Democrats yawn.
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False. Not one gram of America's uranium has been sold to russia by Clinton.
This old meme has been debunked many times. My gawd, if you believe that one, your credibility is zilch.
Four men dead at Benghazzi, followed by coverup. You could care less.
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After 8 investigations, millions of taxpayer dollars wasted did they find that they could nail Hillary with?

Nothing. Zilch, nada, as in ZERO.

Name one prominent Dem who could care less. Heck, the first few months into Trump's presidency, and soldiers died in a failed op (two failed ops) that was hastily ordered by Trump, not one investigation, and to top it off, you could care less.
Clinton Charitable Foundation - fraudulent play for pay scheme,
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Please provide evidence. Ambiguous evidence (which is the best you can produce ) is not evidence that would result in prosecution in a high stakes case. Sorry.
covered up by destroying 30,000 emails on an illegal server.
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Hillary ordered deletion of her private emails long before a subpoena. No evidence of coverup.
Destruction of evidence sought by congress in that matter? Oh look at Trump's small hands.
Hillary given debate questions, and having NOTHING to show for her time as senator or secretary of state? "Most qualified" by YOUR *standards*
The DNC should be prosecuted under the RICO Act.
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No prosecutor, to date, would be willing to put his or her John Hancock to any charge against Hillary, and the reason is you need more than ambiguous evidence for a high stakes prosecution, and that's the best you can produce.

Trump's crimes will come to light, and it will make Hillary look like Mother Theresa, but you don't seem to mind, all you do is "what about" on Hillary, hillary hillary hillary. But if your boy is worse, and he is much worse, you don't mind.


Well, if you don't mind about Trump, why do you mind about Hillary, hmmmm?
 
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ludin said:
actually we have a ton of evidence that she has done something wrong but for whatever reason she has enough people in place to protect her from
anything and everything.
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That makes no sense. They've been investigating Clintons for years, so if they were protecting her, why would they even bother investigating?
No, the real truth is there is no evidence rising above the ambiguous that a prosecutor would be willing to put his/her name on an indictment charge on a high stakes case. They would, if the evidence were black and white. Prosecuting a big fish would be a mighty big prize for any prosecutor, don't think they wouldn't relish the chance, but you need a lot ore than the kinds of stuff floating around on FB memes.
I guess they are worried about their life since it seems a lot people around the Clinton's end up dead as soon as something comes up.
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Oh brother, now you are bringing up the dead bodies trope, that meme is old as the hills.
There is now a lawsuit about how she funded her campaign.
FEC Records Indicate Hillary Campaign Illegally Laundered $84 Million

Clinton's are as dirty as the day is long.
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What a joke, That's not a federal lawsuit, it's a lawsuit by some right wingnut conspiracy group against the FEC, and it's going nowhere. That is the more logical reason why the story isn't getting traction.

That suit won't go far, though:

Did Hillary Clinton launder millions of dollars while she was secretary of state? | PolitiFact


that's just one aspect, I'm sure the other conspiracy theories will pan out to be just that, conspiracy theories.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Like with the now defunct Russian Collusion hoax, there is no there there.

Its another fraud on America by the great projectionists. When they accuse Trump of something be assured, know that you will find gold swept under the Clinton rugs. With slenderman and Kerry WHPOTUS's water, be sure to closely inspect under the Persian ones first.
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All I hear is "I want Hillary prosecuted no matter what, and I want Trump not prosecuted, no matter what!"

ludin said:
actually we have a ton of evidence that she has done something wrong but for whatever reason she has enough people in place to protect her from
anything and everything.

I guess they are worried about their life since it seems a lot people around the Clinton's end up dead as soon as something comes up.

There is now a lawsuit about how she funded her campaign.
FEC Records Indicate Hillary Campaign Illegally Laundered $84 Million

Clinton's are as dirty as the day is long.
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We have tons of "evidence" from conspiracy theory blogs, it must just be the entire justice system and US government is corrupt!
 
ludin said:
actually we have a ton of evidence that she has done something wrong but for whatever reason she has enough people in place to protect her from
anything and everything.
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“for whatever reason”. There it is. Whenever a delusional conservative narrative reaches its eventual dead end, magic presto, out comes another delusion to keep it going. Ludin, the problem with you and every conservative (even the ones that lack the courage to put “conservative” as their lean) is you accept anything as fact if it’s what you want to believe. Of course as an obedient conservative you “know” Hillary is corrupt. But when faced with the actual reality of no charges from your conservative masters you simply create another delusion. Even your dear leader is doing nothing to bring her the justice you “know” she deserves.

And fyi, the lawsuit is from December. Why is Trump’s FEC not prosecuting Hillary or a republican committee investigating this obvious and documented crime? Oh yea I forgot: for whatever reason.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
And Trump and his DoJ better charge her.

Maybe they haven't seen the evidence you have.
You should print it all off and send it certified mail [or hand deliver it].

Or, maybe Trump and his DoJ are in league with Killary and that's why they aren't charging Killary with the vast multitude of crimes.

Is it that Trump's DoJ have not seen the evidence you have?
Or are they secretly in league with that devil Killary?

It's certainly not that the evidence you have is insufficient or deficient in anyway.
We can rule that **** out right away.

Truly a ****ing mystery for the ages.
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That is what investigations are for.
Instead we get hey it's Clinton and even though we have a pile of evidence
well as long as she didn't intend to break the law she is ok.

Your right they should go after her. will they? I doubt it too many snake in the pond.
 
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