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Poll: 71% Percent of Voters Say Economy Has Improved Under Trump

Let's see if they're still saying that once the trade war has started hitting US workers.
 
Mycroft said:
Since this poll actually has realistic sampling by party, this must be especially concerning to the Democrats.
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Leftists are a miserable bunch, so even if the streets were paved with gold, they would still find something to whinge about. I seem to recall the left's predictions of doom and gloom the moment DJT was sworn in. Fact is, Americans are doing much better now than under the yoke of Obamanomics. As much as the kookers will not acknowledge it, even they are doing better. Good for them. I like it when as many people as possible are prospering.
 
Sam_Troy said:
The only ones who are upset with the strong economy are enemies of America. Strong economy=strong military. Our quest to make America great again and transform this country into a Nationalist nation is happening.


Poll: 71% Percent of Voters Say Economy Has Improved Under Trump | Breitbart
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What has Trump improved? We created more jobs Obama's last year than in Trump's first year. Unemployment has been dropping for over 6 years. We had the longest streak of job growth in history under Obama.

What has changed?
 
Mycroft said:
Since this poll actually has realistic sampling by party, this must be especially concerning to the Democrats.
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Not necessarily. I think the economy has improved under Trump, but that does not mean I think the improvement is necessarily due to Trump. Reading just a couple lines past the headline, it appears that only 44% of voters surveyed think Trump deserves credit for the economy--though that is an improvement of six points over the last year.

Now, I think Trump does deserve a certain amount of credit for the economy, following on the general principle that credit starts accruing to a president about a year after they take office. After about two years, the current president/congress owns it 100%...though that still does not mean that they deserve 100% of the credit. Past governments going back at least as far as Nixon still have something to do with how the economy is doing today.
 
ashurbanipal said:
Not necessarily. I think the economy has improved under Trump, but that does not mean I think the improvement is necessarily due to Trump. Reading just a couple lines past the headline, it appears that only 44% of voters surveyed think Trump deserves credit for the economy--though that is an improvement of six points over the last year.

Now, I think Trump does deserve a certain amount of credit for the economy, following on the general principle that credit starts accruing to a president about a year after they take office. After about two years, the current president/congress owns it 100%...though that still does not mean that they deserve 100% of the credit. Past governments going back at least as far as Nixon still have something to do with how the economy is doing today.
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The guy in office gets the most benefit from a good economy...whether he's responsible or not. Also, a good economy will make it very hard for the Dems to justify attacking Trump on that issue.
 
Another "safe" Breitbart headline.
 
Mycroft said:
The guy in office gets the most benefit from a good economy...whether he's responsible or not. Also, a good economy will make it very hard for the Dems to justify attacking Trump on that issue.
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Generally speaking, I think that's correct. However, it should be pointed out that what you're talking about is voter perception, not the reality underlying that perception. Trump will get the credit whether or not he's done anything to earn it--same went for Obama, Bush II, Clinton, and so on.

But yeah, right now I think the Dems will have a more difficult time on the economy than they should have if there's weren't so wide a gulf between perception and reality.
 
ashurbanipal said:
Generally speaking, I think that's correct. However, it should be pointed out that what you're talking about is voter perception, not the reality underlying that perception. Trump will get the credit whether or not he's done anything to earn it--same went for Obama, Bush II, Clinton, and so on.

But yeah, right now I think the Dems will have a more difficult time on the economy than they should have if there's weren't so wide a gulf between perception and reality.
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And that's why I said this poll number should be very concerning to the Democrats. Especially since a lot of Dems fall within that 71%.
 
Mycroft said:
Since this poll actually has realistic sampling by party, this must be especially concerning to the Democrats.
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Yes, it is concerning because people really are dumb enough to believe Trump is responsible.

And also are dumb enough to think low unemployment means everything is great.
 
Deuce said:
Yes, it is concerning because people really are dumb enough to believe Trump is responsible.

And also are dumb enough to think low unemployment means everything is great.
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Or dumb enough to think Trump has nothing to do with any of it.

But then, there are lots of useful idiots out there.
 
Mycroft said:
And that's why I said this poll number should be very concerning to the Democrats. Especially since a lot of Dems fall within that 71%.
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I think you're missing my original point. It's possible to agree that the economy is doing well under Trump without thinking that he deserves any credit for it. Indeed, I could consistently believe that the economy is doing well under Trump, but that he's horrible for the economy. Presumably, if I thought that, I'd think that his policies, left to run their course, would crash the economy, they just haven't yet--and indeed, I think that's probably what most leftists believe.

The other poll responses are a bit less concerning for Dems. Only 44% think Trump deserves credit for the economy--and if that's the perception come election day, Trump's record on the economy may be, er, Trumped by other concerns.
 
ashurbanipal said:
I think you're missing my original point. It's possible to agree that the economy is doing well under Trump without thinking that he deserves any credit for it. Indeed, I could consistently believe that the economy is doing well under Trump, but that he's horrible for the economy. Presumably, if I thought that, I'd think that his policies, left to run their course, would crash the economy, they just haven't yet--and indeed, I think that's probably what most leftists believe.

The other poll responses are a bit less concerning for Dems. Only 44% think Trump deserves credit for the economy--and if that's the perception come election day, Trump's record on the economy may be, er, Trumped by other concerns.
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Mos people aren't as discerning as you. Especially Dems.
 
Phys251 said:
All conservatives make blanket statements. :2razz:
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So too do liberals, what else is new in the political rhetoric game both sides play? The problem with politics today, is both sides use these blanket statements to tar the other side. Both sides use a divide and conquer strategy trying to put different groups of voters against each other. I suppose the whole idea is to get the voters to hate the other guy more than they hate you. Substance, ideas, possible solutions to our problems, visions of where one wants to take America, doesn't apply in today's politics of destruction, negative personal attacks, basically campaigns full of hate.

I suppose we get what we deserve.
 
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