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Arre Trump's lawyers right about trump's unlimited ability to pardon?

hanger4 said:
Your words mean nothing, my words are grounded in the public record, sound logic and the opinions of attorneys who know infinitely more about the subject thank you do.

Toodles :2wave:
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My previous post 350 leaves you with nothing to say except repeat what has already been crushed and flushed over and over and over again.
 
independentusa said:
I am trying to follow Trump's lawyers opinions, not about their belief that the president can't commit obstruction of justice, but about his unlimited ability to pardon. So I ask this question, if Trump said to those in prison, pay me a million dollars and I will pardon you, which he can do, has he committed a crime or violated the law? If you follow the interpretation of the constitution by his lawyers it would seem not. His ability to pardon according to them is unlimited and not open to question, but do you believe this is true?
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When Congress learns the President does something grossly wrong and unethical and contrary to our laws and traditions, like accepting a lot of money for a pardon, or obstructing justice in a hugely important way, or whatever, it's time for them to consider impeachment. Other lesser measures, like the DOJ indicting their own boss, and other nonsense like that, would be ridiculous and inappropriate, which is why Trump pardoning himself is a non-issue. The power to pardon may belong to the President, but impeachment of the President is a power given to the Congress, and the President can't tell them how to do that, or what he can be impeached for, or excuse himself from it.

Having said that, I think we all know that this is going to depend entirely on politics. If the Democrats win Congress they are going to impeach Trump. It doesn't matter for what reason; if there's no real reason they'll just make something up just like they've been doing all along.

The people may well drag them out of their cubby holes and hang them from the lamp posts the next day, but they will impeach Trump in the meantime.
 
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