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Rudy Giuliani admits 'Spygate' is Trump PR tactic against Robert Mueller

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Rudy Giuliani admits 'Spygate' is Trump PR tactic against Robert Mueller

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Rudy Guiliani — a/k/a The Nutty Professor

5/27/18

Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani said on Sunday that his repeated imputations of a supposed scandal at the heart of the Robert Mueller investigation – which Donald Trump calls “Spygate” – amounted to a tactic to sway public opinion and limit the risk of the president being impeached. “Of course we have to do it to defend the president,” Trump’s lawyer told CNN State of the Union host Dana Bash, who accused him of being part of a campaign to undermine the Mueller investigation. “It is for public opinion,” Giuliani said of his public campaign of dissimulation. “Because eventually the decision here is going to be impeach or not impeach. Members of Congress, Democrats and Republicans, are going to be informed a lot by their constituents. And so our jury – and it should be – is the American people.

Arizona senator Jeff Flake, a rare Republican critic of Trump, told NBC’s Meet the Press the “Spygate” claims were a “diversion tactic, obviously”. He added: “There is concern that the president is laying the groundwork to [fire] Bob Mueller or [deputy attorney general Rod] Rosenstein. If that were to happen, obviously, that would cause a constitutional crisis.” Michael Hayden, another former director of the CIA, told ABC that Trump was “simply trying to delegitimize Mueller … and he’s willing to throw anything against the wall. “From the outside looking in, from everything I know, everyone has handled this just about the way it should have been handled.” Giuliani’s month-old job as a spokesman for the president has been marked by confusion, contradiction and scandal. He began by saying money used to seal a 2016 hush agreement with the porn actor Stormy Daniels had come from Trump, who had earlier flatly denied, on camera, any knowledge of the $130,000.

In other words, a total fabrication strictly for propaganda purposes. Trump and Guiliani are embracing the RT/Sputnik modality of dispensing lies, and damned lies.

Related: Rudy Giuliani Admits White House Is Trying To Discredit Russia Investigation
 
Rudy Giuliani admits 'Spygate' is Trump PR tactic against Robert Mueller

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Rudy Guiliani — a/k/a The Nutty Professor



In other words, a total fabrication strictly for propaganda purposes. Trump and Guiliani are embracing the RT/Sputnik modality of dispensing lies, and damned lies.

Related: Rudy Giuliani Admits White House Is Trying To Discredit Russia Investigation

IIRC he was stating this was a pure political game as it would be impeachment that Trump could face.
That said, if Mueller lays out a boat load of Felonies, and I think he will, that changes the equation
Then we have the case where Mueller name Trump as an unindicted co conspirator.
 
I was watching MSNBC this afternoon and there was a ‘republican strategist’ named Rick Wilson on the show. He stated that if Devin Nunes had gotten anything damaging from the briefings last week, he would have “come out like a monkey with his ass on fire” to report the findings. Struck me as spot on and humorous........so far nothing from Nunes?
 
I was watching MSNBC this afternoon and there was a ‘republican strategist’ named Rick Wilson on the show. He stated that if Devin Nunes had gotten anything damaging from the briefings last week, he would have “come out like a monkey with his ass on fire” to report the findings. Struck me as spot on and humorous........so far nothing from Nunes?

True, we would have had leaks within the hour or so after Nunes attending. I think that as the Spanksters like to say, he found a nothingburger
 
Uninvited White House lawyer Emmet Flood was also at the Thursday classified briefing.

::crickets::
 
Uninvited White House lawyer Emmet Flood was also at the Thursday classified briefing.

::crickets::

was there ever a stated reason for his presence?

ditto for general kelly
 
Giuliani admitted this is all taking it to the public since impeachment is based on a political vote and that is what they will fight in the end.

The man is a perfect fit for Trump - a craven power hungry authoritarian who only cares about what he can get away with to further his own interests and the truth and objective facts be damned.
 
was there ever a stated reason for his presence?

ditto for general kelly

The reason for their presence was the same as gang bangers sitting in the courtroom when a witness testifies against their leader in court.
 
Trump's only possible defence is to reframe the very real legal investigations into his criminality as mere political machinations. He appears to be having some success among the gullible and the credulous.
 
was there ever a stated reason for his presence?

ditto for general kelly

Yes there was. He gave his talk concerning the President's thoughts then left before the meeting started.
 
Rudy Giuliani admits 'Spygate' is Trump PR tactic against Robert Mueller

well, duh.

more "innocent" behavior.
 
Yes there was. He gave his talk concerning the President's thoughts then left before the meeting started.

i heard that. supposedly, flood conveyed tRump's desire for transparency. however, that was not the forum for the president's personal attorney nor the chief of staff to be present immediately prior to the meeting by members of the congressional oversight committees

and even less so for the initial meeting where the democratic representatives were excluded from participation


visually and ethically, this was at least as bad as the ill advised private tarmac meeting of bill clinton boarding the attorney general's plane while hillary was under active investigation
 
Rudy Giuliani admits 'Spygate' is Trump PR tactic against Robert Mueller

526x297-0f0.jpg

Rudy Guiliani — a/k/a The Nutty Professor



In other words, a total fabrication strictly for propaganda purposes. Trump and Guiliani are embracing the RT/Sputnik modality of dispensing lies, and damned lies.

Related: Rudy Giuliani Admits White House Is Trying To Discredit Russia Investigation

Isn't this great? Rudy said, that he knows the Mueller investigation is illegitimate because of what he had learned about in spygate. Giuliani is blatantly lying to the American people. Then he says this is a PR tactic. Should we hold the media accountable for having these traitors on TV??
 
Yes there was. He gave his talk concerning the President's thoughts then left before the meeting started.

According to Sarah Sanders he shared thoughts on the President's desire for transparency, but left before meeting started. She was not able to answer the question of whether or not he or Kelly received any papers, etc. during their brief attendance.
 
According to Sarah Sanders he shared thoughts on the President's desire for transparency, but left before meeting started. She was not able to answer the question of whether or not he or Kelly received any papers, etc. during their brief attendance.

That's the way I heard it.


May 24, 2018

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WASHINGTON — President Trump’s chief of staff and a White House lawyer representing the president in the Russia investigation were present on Thursday at the start of two classified meetings requested by members of Congress to review sensitive material about the F.B.I.’s use of an informant in the inquiry.

"The two men left both meetings after sharing introductory remarks “to relay the president’s desire for as much openness as possible under the law” and before officials began to brief the lawmakers, the White House said in a statement."

The first report I read stated the two sneaked in, then posted a pic of them walking in with the rest of the crowd.
 
I believe it was Renato Mariotti who first observed that what Giuliani is doing is PR campaign and not in the least bit a legal one.
 
Trump's only possible defence is to reframe the very real legal investigations into his criminality as mere political machinations. He appears to be having some success among the gullible and the credulous.

It gained him back all the supporters he lost in the aftermath of the Comey firing. The strategy doesn't appear to have attracted the Independents over to him.
 
That's the way I heard it.


May 24, 2018

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WASHINGTON — President Trump’s chief of staff and a White House lawyer representing the president in the Russia investigation were present on Thursday at the start of two classified meetings requested by members of Congress to review sensitive material about the F.B.I.’s use of an informant in the inquiry.

"The two men left both meetings after sharing introductory remarks “to relay the president’s desire for as much openness as possible under the law” and before officials began to brief the lawmakers, the White House said in a statement."

The first report I read stated the two sneaked in, then posted a pic of them walking in with the rest of the crowd.

i still fail to the purpose of those white house officials being present prior to the congressional oversight committee members meeting. what were they expected to accomplish by their unprecedented presence?
 
That's the way I heard it.


May 24, 2018

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WASHINGTON — President Trump’s chief of staff and a White House lawyer representing the president in the Russia investigation were present on Thursday at the start of two classified meetings requested by members of Congress to review sensitive material about the F.B.I.’s use of an informant in the inquiry.

"The two men left both meetings after sharing introductory remarks “to relay the president’s desire for as much openness as possible under the law” and before officials began to brief the lawmakers, the White House said in a statement."

The first report I read stated the two sneaked in, then posted a pic of them walking in with the rest of the crowd.

They should not have been there in any form. We are still left to consider whether or not they left with any information that was later discussed.
 
i still fail to the purpose of those white house officials being present prior to the congressional oversight committee members meeting. what were they expected to accomplish by their unprecedented presence?

Apparently it didn't bother the official attendees of the meeting. They all came in, sat down, listened, sent the two on their way, then started the meeting.
 
They should not have been there in any form. We are still left to consider whether or not they left with any information that was later discussed.

So consider.

No one at the meeting complained. Seems like another nothing to me.
 
Apparently it didn't bother the official attendees of the meeting. They all came in, sat down, listened, sent the two on their way, then started the meeting.

what documentation exists to prove that was which was said and done and seen during the meeting where no democrats were present?
 
So consider.

No one at the meeting complained. Seems like another nothing to me.

did bill clinton or the attorney general complain after their inappropriate meeting on the flightline tarmac? would not expect the republicans to in this instance, either
 
So consider.

No one at the meeting complained. Seems like another nothing to me.

There were two meetings. The first was Repubs only, so no complaint there naturally. The second on Capital Hill:

The first meeting included Rep. Trey Gowdy, Speaker Paul Ryan, Rep. Adam Schiff, Rep. Devin Nunes, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, Rod Rosenstein, and Chris Wray, as well as brief appearances from Kelly and Flood. The second included the Congressional “Gang of Eight,” the leaders of both parties from both chambers, as well as the heads of the intelligence committees.

Flood and Kelly left soon after appearing in the Capitol Hill meeting. More than one participant in that meeting told Flood his appearance was inappropriate, according to a Congressional official familiar with the meeting.
 
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