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James Clapper did NOT say what Donald Trump keeps saying he said

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James Clapper did NOT say what Donald Trump keeps saying he said

5/24/18

On Tuesday, James Clapper, the former Director of National Intelligence, went on "The View" -- weird, right? -- to talk about President Donald Trump and the intelligence community. During that interview, this exchange happened between Clapper and co-host Joy Behar:


BEHAR: "So I ask you, was the FBI spying on Trump's campaign?"

CLAPPER: "No, they were not. They were spying on, a term I don't particularly like, but on what the Russians were doing. Trying to understand were the Russians infiltrating, trying to gain access, trying to gain leverage or influence which is what they do."

BEHAR: "Well, why doesn't [Trump] like that? He should be happy."

CLAPPER: "He should be."​

Seems pretty straightforward, right? Clapper makes crystal clear that the FBI was not spying on the Trump campaign. And he also makes clear that while he doesn't like the word "spying" -- because we are talking about the use of a confidential source -- that, to the extent there was any information gathering happening in conversations between the FBI's informant and members of the Trump campaign, it was entirely designed to shed light on Russian meddling efforts related to the 2016 election. In the hands of Trump, however, Clapper's words have become anything but straightforward. Early Wednesday morning, Trump tweeted this about the Clapper interview:

"'Trump should be happy that the FBI was SPYING on his campaign' No, James Clapper, I am not happy. Spying on a campaign would be illegal, and a scandal to boot!"​

Then, answering reporters' question on Wednesday afternoon, Trump said this: "I mean if you look at Clapper ... he sort of admitted that they had spies in the campaign yesterday inadvertently. I hope it's not true, but it looks like it is."

NO. HE. DIDN'T.
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For the record here. No Donnie, Mr. Clapper said the exact opposite of what you claim. If you read more Donnie, you would understand sentence construction and context.

This is simply additional Trump CT fodder for Hannity to rile-up to the base flying monkeys. As is his custom, Trump is again lying on someone that called out yet another Trump conspiracy.

Related: Fact Check: No, Clapper Has Not 'Admitted That There Was Spying' On Trump Campaign
 
Rogue Valley said:
James Clapper did NOT say what Donald Trump keeps saying he said



For the record here. No Donnie, Mr. Clapper said the exact opposite of what you claim. If you read more Donnie, you would understand sentence construction and context.

This is simply additional Trump CT fodder for Hannity to rile-up to the base flying monkeys. As is his custom, Trump is again lying on someone that called out yet another Trump conspiracy.

Related: Fact Check: No, Clapper Has Not 'Admitted That There Was Spying' On Trump Campaign
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Clapper admits that they embedded spies in his campaghin. Why they were put there is in dispute but it is a fact that they placed spies in his camp.

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Rogue Valley said:
James Clapper did NOT say what Donald Trump keeps saying he said



For the record here. No Donnie, Mr. Clapper said the exact opposite of what you claim. If you read more Donnie, you would understand sentence construction and context.

This is simply additional Trump CT fodder for Hannity to rile-up to the base flying monkeys. As is his custom, Trump is again lying on someone that called out yet another Trump conspiracy.

Related: Fact Check: No, Clapper Has Not 'Admitted That There Was Spying' On Trump Campaign
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Did Clapper notify Trump or his people that the FBI, CIA, NSA or any other agency was embedding a CI in his campaign for the purpose of spying on the Russians? If not, and if they weren't spying on Trump, then why not notify him?


I'll give you a hint, it's because they were spying on Trump.
 
My take, in general:

"If Trump says it, it's likely a lie"

Which of course implies he should not be in office ...
 
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Lutherf said:
Did Clapper notify Trump or his people that the FBI, CIA, NSA or any other agency was embedding a CI in his campaign for the purpose of spying on the Russians? If not, and if they weren't spying on Trump, then why not notify him?


I'll give you a hint, it's because they were spying on Trump.
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The FBI is under no obligation to inform the subjects of their investigation. Nor should they be. This is nonsense.
 
How many spies were in clintons camp protecting her?

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Chomsky said:
The FBI is under no obligation to inform the subjects of their investigation. Nor should they be. This is nonsense.
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According to Clapper, the FBI was investigating Russians, not Trump. If that's the case then they SHOULD have informed him.
 
Chomsky said:
The FBI is under no obligation to inform the subjects of their investigation. Nor should they be. This is nonsense.
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Trumpers always conveniently attempt to obfuscate the record. "Alternate-truths". No doubt why they gravitate to Trump.

Clapper clearly and concisely stated the opposite; "No, they were not."
 
Rogue Valley said:
James Clapper did NOT say what Donald Trump keeps saying he said



For the record here. No Donnie, Mr. Clapper said the exact opposite of what you claim. If you read more Donnie, you would understand sentence construction and context.

This is simply additional Trump CT fodder for Hannity to rile-up to the base flying monkeys. As is his custom, Trump is again lying on someone that called out yet another Trump conspiracy.

Related: Fact Check: No, Clapper Has Not 'Admitted That There Was Spying' On Trump Campaign
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ROTFLOL... Clapper has lied under oath, and after the NYT let the cat out of the bag, Comey, Brennan and Clapper have been scurrying.

I like it.

They spied.*

It’s laughable it was for Trump’s “protection.” I almost fell out of my chair laughing when Joy Behar said (paraphrasing) “Trump should be happy”... followed by Lying Clapper’s agreement. That was great comedy.

If it was for his protection, what about Hillary? She doesn’t need protection?

They couldn’t have warned Trump about potential threats to the campaign? They didn’t, though they should have if Russia was a threat.

The Obama Clowns are ****ed... of their own nefarious doing.

Obama and his 3rd World Banana Republic ****hole behavior has made Nixon look like a Saint.

PS. Clapper did admit it... ROTFLOL... and we know who the first spy is.

*And Trump is going to crush them. They tried to destroy the wrong guy.
 
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Lutherf said:
According to Clapper, the FBI was investigating Russians, not Trump. If that's the case then they SHOULD have informed him.
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I don't see it, nor do I agree.

They were investigating Russian involvement & contact, not "Russians". And for all we know they were/are investigating Trump too, or at least had to be cognizant Russian involvement may lead to him. And it still may!
 
Rogue Valley said:
James Clapper did NOT say what Donald Trump keeps saying he said



For the record here. No Donnie, Mr. Clapper said the exact opposite of what you claim. If you read more Donnie, you would understand sentence construction and context.

This is simply additional Trump CT fodder for Hannity to rile-up to the base flying monkeys. As is his custom, Trump is again lying on someone that called out yet another Trump conspiracy.

Related: Fact Check: No, Clapper Has Not 'Admitted That There Was Spying' On Trump Campaign
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So Trump is LYING about what somebody else said about him?!!!!!????????!!?? :shock:

And millions of adoring Trumpkins lap it up like mothers milk. :doh:roll:
 
Chomsky said:
I don't see it, nor do I agree.

They were investigating Russian involvement & contact, not "Russians". And for all we know they were/are investigating Trump too, or at least had to be cognizant Russian involvement may lead to him. And it still may!
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So here's the deal; if you put a "confidential informant" in the organization you are investigating then you are, by definition, spying on them. If you are not investigating the organization you are placing a CI in then you have no reason whatsoever to NOT inform them of that fact.
 
Chomsky said:
The FBI is under no obligation to inform the subjects of their investigation. Nor should they be. This is nonsense.
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If Trump is going to be president, and the FBI or CIA have information early in the campaign that Russians are trying to turn people associated with his campaign, they needed to warn him.

They didn’t. And they had zero on Trump colluding, and it seems they had started this not long after his announcing. The timeline keeps moving back, back, back.

Clapper said they were “protecting” Trump. ROTFLOL...

What about Hillary?
 
Lutherf said:
So here's the deal; if you put a "confidential informant" in the organization you are investigating then you are, by definition, spying on them. If you are not investigating the organization you are placing a CI in then you have no reason whatsoever to NOT inform them of that fact.
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Unless informing them about it could alter the investigation they wish to make. They were looking for Russian attacks and attempts to gain influence, if the Trump organization knew that was going on they may augment whom they were meeting with.

I'm not 100% sure what was going down, but I don't think we can say there is "no reason whatsoever to NOT inform them" because there may, in fact, be good reasons for not informing them.
 
Lutherf said:
So here's the deal; if you put a "confidential informant" in the organization you are investigating then you are, by definition, spying on them. If you are not investigating the organization you are placing a CI in then you have no reason whatsoever to NOT inform them of that fact.
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Uh, the informant interviewed a suspected Drumpf campaign worker while in England to find out about his Russian connections....to ultimately protect the campaign FROM foreign influence. The informer was NOT "in" the organization.
 
trouble13 said:
How many spies were in clintons camp protecting her?

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Well since nothing in the Clinton campaign was found to be illegal we will never know since no investigation was necessary, however I have no doubt they were there.

I have no problem with the fbi keeping an eye on our elections.
 
This is just another topic where trump nation pretends to know about Mueller's investigation, where it has gone, is going, and it's intent without knowing a single damn thing about Mueller's investigation, where it has gone, is going, and it's intent.

100% pure speculation spawning faux outrage.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Trumpers always conveniently attempt to obfuscate the record. "Alternate-truths". No doubt why they gravitate to Trump.

Clapper clearly and concisely stated the opposite; "No, they were not."
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It's beyond ridiculous. The guy and his campaign are up to the asses in Russian and criminal activity, including his kid, campaign manager, and other senior family and campaign officials having electronically documented evidence of meeting with the Russian government to conspire to throw the election, and these posters are going to convince us the FBI should NOT be interested? What the hell reality do they live in?
 
trouble13 said:
How many spies were in clintons camp protecting her?

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Oh dear God... are you actually going to pretend like the FBI was never looking at Clinton? After all the "LOCK HER UP! BUT HER EMAILZZZZ#!!!!!!" chants?
 
zimmer said:
If Trump is going to be president, and the FBI or CIA have information early in the campaign that Russians are trying to turn people associated with his campaign, they needed to warn him.

They didn’t. And they had zero on Trump colluding, and it seems they had started this not long after his announcing. The timeline keeps moving back, back, back.

Clapper said they were “protecting” Trump. ROTFLOL...

What about Hillary?
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The reason the timeline keeps moving back is that trump has been involved with Russian mafia since 79 and they are the only country that will give him a loan. I still can not figure out why more people are not very concerned that we have a president whose entire business is reliant on financing from the one and same foreign nation the got him elected.

Before trump started talking up Russia the same people who are now cheering Putin would have been cheering if a cia wet work team had assassinated him.
 
Ikari said:
Unless informing them about it could alter the investigation they wish to make. They were looking for Russian attacks and attempts to gain influence, if the Trump organization knew that was going on they may augment whom they were meeting with.

I'm not 100% sure what was going down, but I don't think we can say there is "no reason whatsoever to NOT inform them" because there may, in fact, be good reasons for not informing them.
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I can think of a lot of good reasons to not inform them, and I think more than a few have been borne-out by Mueller's investigation and the subsequent subpoenas, indictments, and criminal pleadings.
 
Lutherf said:
So here's the deal; if you put a "confidential informant" in the organization you are investigating then you are, by definition, spying on them. If you are not investigating the organization you are placing a CI in then you have no reason whatsoever to NOT inform them of that fact.
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You lost me here, but this "spying" term is ridiculous. If that's the case, then all cops are spies.

You lost me in your statement with all respect, because I'm not exactly sure at all what your saying. The cops have no mandate to inform the subjects of an investigation. Period. And when you look at the warrants, indictments, and pleas arising so far, it is very clear the feds were on to something.

I don't know how to be more clear here, but you and some others seem to be in some heightened state of denial, that in my humble opinion borders on delusion.
 
zimmer said:
If Trump is going to be president, and the FBI or CIA have information early in the campaign that Russians are trying to turn people associated with his campaign, they needed to warn him.

They didn’t. And they had zero on Trump colluding, and it seems they had started this not long after his announcing. The timeline keeps moving back, back, back.

Clapper said they were “protecting” Trump. ROTFLOL...

What about Hillary?
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The bolded is patently false. The feds don't have to warn anyone they're under investigation. Nor should they. And Trump is still the subject of the investigation. Your logic is nonsensical.
 
Good grief!

The libs actually believe that Obama's FBI spied on the Trump camp in order to protect them all ... :lamo
 
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