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I hereby demand... the Department of Justice look into... the FBI/DOJ

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I hereby demand, and will do so officially tomorrow, that the Department of Justice look into whether or not the FBI/DOJ infiltrated or surveilled the Trump Campaign for Political Purposes - and if any such demands or requests were made by people within the Obama Administration!
7:37 PM · May 20, 2018


https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/998256454590193665
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Of course... Democrats will be 100% eager to learn if the government previous to Trump had used police state tactics on their political opponent during a presidential election.

We thank them for what we know will be their full support in discovering the truth about this serious matter.
 
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This really required a new thread...Seriously...MODERATORS PLEASE!
 
Trump, irony challenged as usual, makes a political demand of the Department of Justice to investigate whether his predecessor used the Department of Justice for political purposes....

Of course there is no evidence they did, other than the claims of a known pathological liar and all around despicable human being, our President Trump.

Well good luck with it.
 
Not sure this will go very far but...
 
zimmer said:
Of course... Democrats will be 100% eager to learn if the government previous to Trump had used police state tactics on their political opponent during a presidential election.

We thank them for what we know will be their full support in discovering the truth about this serious matter.
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Do you think there's any possible way they could demonstrate that they didn't, to the satisfaction of Trump and his fans? What would it take to exonerate them, in your mind, Zim? And mind you, it's not so much whether or not they investigated him, but whether or not the motivation was political or legitimately because Trump is shady AF. Cuz we know Trump is shady AF, right Zim? Whether or not he did what he is specifically being accused of, he is shady in general.

If there was a way to actually investigate this, I'd say do it. But it's pretty tough to investigate intention. Which, of course, everyone knows, if they think about it, and I would bet my last dollar Trump has. Ah well, this is the American government at the moment, guess nothing should be surprising or out of bounds...
 
zimmer said:
Of course... Democrats will be 100% eager to learn if the government previous to Trump had used police state tactics on their political opponent during a presidential election.

We thank them for what we know will be their full support in discovering the truth about this serious matter.
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The facts on the ground at this time look like they colluded. A lot more to it than Trump and Russian collusion. I liked your sarcasm, but Trump is stlll a butthead.
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OlNate said:
Do you think there's any possible way they could demonstrate that they didn't, to the satisfaction of Trump and his fans? What would it take to exonerate them, in your mind, Zim? And mind you, it's not so much whether or not they investigated him, but whether or not the motivation was political or legitimately because Trump is shady AF. Cuz we know Trump is shady AF, right Zim? Whether or not he did what he is specifically being accused of, he is shady in general.

If there was a way to actually investigate this, I'd say do it. But it's pretty tough to investigate intention. Which, of course, everyone knows, if they think about it, and I would bet my last dollar Trump has. Ah well, this is the American government at the moment, guess nothing should be surprising or out of bounds...
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Are you saying that Mueller really cant investigate obstruction against Trump as he would have to prove intention? Not sure there is a crime called collusion, thus we can shut Mueller down, correct!
 
washunut said:
Are you saying that Mueller really cant investigate obstruction against Trump as he would have to prove intention? Not sure there is a crime called collusion, thus we can shut Mueller down, correct!
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No, that's not at all what I'm saying. I was responding to the OP. What are you talking about?
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Trump, irony challenged as usual, makes a political demand of the Department of Justice to investigate whether his predecessor used the Department of Justice for political purposes....

Of course there is no evidence they did, other than the claims of a known pathological liar and all around despicable human being, our President Trump.

Well good luck with it.
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Oh, there is evidence...though I would call it thin, myself. The evidence is statements made to the media by unnamed sources.

Now, you may say that's not enough to start an investigation. Maybe. But we do have a case where an investigation was started...and is still going...because of something a drunk guy said in a bar. So, perhaps these unnamed sources, who are current and former government officials, actually is enough.
 
OlNate said:
No, that's not at all what I'm saying. I was responding to the OP. What are you talking about?
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Check paragraph 2 of your post #5. Sounds like you were kidding.
 
zimmer said:
Of course... Democrats will be 100% eager to learn if the government previous to Trump had used police state tactics on their political opponent during a presidential election.

We thank them for what we know will be their full support in discovering the truth about this serious matter.
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But I thought tweets weren't news. Especially feckless demands by a troll.
 
washunut said:
Check paragraph 2 of your post #5. Sounds like you were kidding.
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Nope, wasn't kidding. Sorry, man, if you want to talk about something, you're going to have to go a different tack than vague and cryptic, as it's still early where I'm at, and it's a long weekend up here, which means last night was spent partying.
 
DaveFagan said:
The facts on the ground at this time look like they colluded. A lot more to it than Trump and Russian collusion. I liked your sarcasm, but Trump is stlll a butthead.
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Would you tell us just what those facts on the ground are?
 
Floridafan said:
Would you tell us just what those facts on the ground are?
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Collusion by Comey, McCabe, Clinton, Lynch, Brennan, etc. Surveillance within Trump campaign.
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Mycroft said:
Oh, there is evidence...though I would call it thin, myself. The evidence is statements made to the media by unnamed sources.

Now, you may say that's not enough to start an investigation. Maybe. But we do have a case where an investigation was started...and is still going...because of something a drunk guy said in a bar. So, perhaps these unnamed sources, who are current and former government officials, actually is enough.
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I am fine with the Justice Department looking into it. I was just pointing out the irony of it.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
I am fine with the Justice Department looking into it. I was just pointing out the irony of it.
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I was responding to this, from you: "Of course there is no evidence they did, other than the claims of a known pathological liar and all around despicable human being, our President Trump. "
 
this thread is exactly what happens to your mind with the Conservative media. Trump deflects and all the itty bitty Conservative lambs flock to it. And not to long later the Parrots start squawking the same sediment. BORING
 
Floridafan said:
I asked you for facts, not names. Do you have FACTS?
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No facts that wouldn't instantly be revealed by a google search using the names and collusion. Lazy is your problem, not mine.
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DaveFagan said:
No facts that wouldn't instantly be revealed by a google search using the names and collusion. Lazy is your problem, not mine.
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What you have are innuendos, and gossip- not a single fact, simply because there aren't any. its just another feeble attempt to get the spotlight off of this administrations total and complete corruption.
 
jnug said:
This really required a new thread...Seriously...MODERATORS PLEASE!
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It’s BN right from the account of the office of the world’s most powerful man... calling for an investigation into investigators.

If that ain’t worthy of a new thread... what is? ROTFLOL.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Trump, irony challenged as usual, makes a political demand of the Department of Justice to investigate whether his predecessor used the Department of Justice for political purposes....

Of course there is no evidence they did, other than the claims of a known pathological liar and all around despicable human being, our President Trump.

Well good luck with it.
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There is ample evidence they did.

Strzok-Page left a long trail indicating it.

Lynch/Clinton’s private meeting on the tarmac indicates it.

Comey going through the litany of Clinton crimes and then exonerating her in the manner he did is fishy.

The DoJ slow walking documents is fishy.

Spying on Trump and not Clinton (who had lots of Russian contacts and a server that was compromised... meaning she could be blackmailed) is fishy.

Rosenstein recommending Comey’s firing, Trump following his suggestion and then having Rosenstein having Trump investigated because Comey leaked memo’s is beyond bizarre.

The FISA warrants used to spy on Trump, based on a political document created by a foreign spy and Russians?

Oh... the truth will come out, much has... and it does not look good for Obama and his administration’s Banana Republic behavior.
 
OlNate said:
Do you think there's any possible way they could demonstrate that they didn't, to the satisfaction of Trump and his fans? What would it take to exonerate them, in your mind, Zim? And mind you, it's not so much whether or not they investigated him, but whether or not the motivation was political or legitimately because Trump is shady AF. Cuz we know Trump is shady AF, right Zim? Whether or not he did what he is specifically being accused of, he is shady in general.

If there was a way to actually investigate this, I'd say do it. But it's pretty tough to investigate intention. Which, of course, everyone knows, if they think about it, and I would bet my last dollar Trump has. Ah well, this is the American government at the moment, guess nothing should be surprising or out of bounds...
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Clapper claimed on TV they spied on Trump because of Russian infiltration.

Hillary had:

1. A Dossier created by a foreign agent which used Russians.

2. They used that dossier to get a FISA warrant.

3. Hillary and Obama gave Putin a sweetest deal on Uranium.

4. Hillary’s server was compromised, and she was therefore subject to possible blackmail.

Yet... nobody spied on Hillary’s campaign????

ROTFLOL...

Yates, Brennan, Clapper, Lynch, Obama, Rosenstein, Comey should lawyer up but good.

PS. You folks called Trump nuts when he claimed he was wiretapped... now we find out he was spied upon and the setup for it was slimy. There could be orange jump suits handed out, but not to those you folks were hoping for.

Not only is Obama’s legacy shot, he will also go down as America’s first president to use the government to spy on a political opponent, infiltrating it with spies as the Soviets did.

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zimmer said:
There is ample evidence they did.

Strzok-Page left a long trail indicating it.

Lynch/Clinton’s private meeting on the tarmac indicates it.

Comey going through the litany of Clinton crimes and then exonerating her in the manner he did is fishy.

The DoJ slow walking documents is fishy.

Spying on Trump and not Clinton (who had lots of Russian contacts and a server that was compromised... meaning she could be blackmailed) is fishy.

Rosenstein recommending Comey’s firing, Trump following his suggestion and then having Rosenstein having Trump investigated because Comey leaked memo’s is beyond bizarre.

The FISA warrants used to spy on Trump, based on a political document created by a foreign spy and Russians?

Oh... the truth will come out, much has... and it does not look good for Obama and his administration’s Banana Republic behavior.
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So how come Trump hasn't hereby demanded an investigation into all of these crimes?
 
tres borrachos said:
So how come Trump hasn't hereby demanded an investigation into all of these crimes?
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They have been/are being investigated.

What do you think Horowitz has been doing for over a year? What do you think the team in Little Rock has been doing? What do you think Huber...in Utah...is doing?
 
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