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Should we make the parents of the shooter partly responsible for school shootings?

minnie616 said:
If the gun was locked the parent most likely would not be found to be criminally negligent even if the lock was the one that the manufacture threw in the box.

Our 4 children are now grown and living in their homes.

But our guns were and currently are locked away and out of sight when not use.

My husband has a concealed handgun ( he has a permit for it and has owned it over 30 years ) and when he is not carrying it , it has the trigger lock on it and if he leaves it in house when he is not here it not only has the trigger lock on it but it is also stored in a lock box.
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Did you ever not trust that your kids wouldn't use your guns to commit a crime?
 
apdst said:
Did you ever not trust that your kids wouldn't use your guns to commit a crime?
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That has nothing to do with criminal negligence.

It’s not just your own minion children a responsible adult needs to keep guns safe from.

I believe in responsible gun ownership.

As I said before my husband sometimes carries a concealed weapon ( a handgun that he has a permit for it ) .

When he’s not carrying it on him it has a trigger lock on it and if he leaves in our home when he is not here it is also in a lock box.

We are pool owners also. Our pool area is fenced in and when not in use the gate is locked.

Our medications have child proof caps and when not in use are kept in locked cabinet.

Also we lock up our up our dangerous pool chemicals other chemicals and household cleaning products.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Cars are not designed for killing...
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That has no bearing on the logic being used. If one's guns are taken and used for a crime and then one holds the owner responsible for the actions that someone else did with their guns, then the same must apply for other things, like cars. At least if one wants to be consistent and not expose their true desire (i.e. just wanting to have control over gun owners)
 
independentusa said:
In almost all of the cases of these school shooters we find that the parents say, we never knew. In this latest school shooting the kid was making bombs and used his father's apparently unlocked guns to do the shooting. In others the parents actually taught the children to shoot, like at Sandy hook. Do you think that the parents at some time should be held partly responsible for their children's killings other students by their actions or in-actions?
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Well it depends, the Sandy Hook shooter was an adult and killed his mother to get access to her guns, so clearly she's beyond any prosecution, also I wonder how legislation would be written to that specific case of someone who's not officially diagnosed with any mental illness, who's not a criminal, and is an adult is not allowed to access firearms from a relative.

in the Santa Fe case, yes I can see charging parents who allowed the kid access to firearms and were willfully blind to his problems.
 
Gondwanaland said:
So, you'll propose knife blocks for the kitchen must come with locks as well?
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Knives are for preparing food...

That has no bearing on the logic being used. If one's guns are taken and used for a crime and then one holds the owner responsible for the actions that someone else did with their guns, then the same must apply for other things, like cars. At least if one wants to be consistent and not expose their true desire (i.e. just wanting to have control over gun owners)
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So, you'll propose knife blocks for the kitchen must come with locks as well?
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Kitchen knives are designed to prepare food...

Gondwanaland said:
That has no bearing on the logic being used. If one's guns are taken and used for a crime and then one holds the owner responsible for the actions that someone else did with their guns, then the same must apply for other things, like cars. At least if one wants to be consistent and not expose their true desire (i.e. just wanting to have control over gun owners)
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You are not using the logic correctly because you are discounting context. The context of what something is designed for makes all the difference. You are trying to make an argument that newborn infants should be confiscated if guns are because I can use my newborn infant to bash a person over the head repeatedly until the person is dead too... that is utterly ridiculous. ANYTHING can be used to kill, for the most part. The VAST MAJORITY of those things are not ever used to kill though because they are not designed to be used for the purpose of hunting and killing people. Context my friend. Context.
 
Gondwanaland said:
Knives are for killing people as much as guns are, hun.
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Not kitchen knives... which is what you said. If you want to post something intelligent like bayonets or swords or K-Bars then you might have a post that sounds less retarded than the one that you just provided.
 
Gondwanaland said:
So it wasn't used to murder that kid? I think that kid would disagree, if they still had a head.....
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Again... the context of what something is designed for matters.

Your idea would lead to the extinction of the human race...
 
Bodhisattva said:
Again... the context of what something is designed for matters.
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No not relly if all one is doing is holding one person accountable for the actions of another done with something that belonged to the first person.

Your idea would lead to the extinction of the human race...[/QUOTE]

How so?
 
Gondwanaland said:
No not relly if all one is doing is holding one person accountable for the actions of another done with something that belonged to the first person.

Your idea would lead to the extinction of the human race...

How so?
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Make s post that makes sense please...
 
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