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The Five Eyes. I'm surprised you don't know.
I dont. Are planning on telling me?
The Five Eyes. I'm surprised you don't know.
Real exchange between me and another poster earlier today:
Poster: "There are serious concerns that the Department of Justice influenced the US elections. We know that the Clinton campaign was investigated. Nobody would dispute that. New information is coming to light that not only was the Trump campaign being investigated, a DOJ spy actually infiltrated the Trump campaign. This is very, very concerning that the DOJ would use tools that often require help from other countries to spy on a major Presidential Political Campaign, and it's even more concerning when you realize they were investigating both of the major party's campaigns. This is exactly what people mean when they talk about a corrupt Deep State. This doesn't mean the DOJ tried to pick a winner, but it's easy to see how they were in the situation to pick a winner. I'm very concerned by what the DOJ has gotten away with up to this point, and it has nothing to do with the last election, but everything to do with future elections."
Me: "So the FBI should have stood by and watched as Russians infiltrated a Presidential candidate's campaign?"
Poster: "From what has been brought forward so far? Yes."
And another exchange:
Me: "We're pretty much only a few weeks away from Republicans arguing that Mueller has a conflict of interest in that he couldn't possibly be expected to conduct a fair investigation of somebody he's investigating."
Poster: "He can't really."
The overt belief that trump is above the law is becoming increasingly mainstream among Republicans. At this rate, in a couple months the regular narrative coming out of Fox News will be that it is perfectly legal for the President to commit crimes and that investigating him is unAmerican.
What’s behind Trump’s FBI spy theory?
Short answers ... supposition, speculation, and plain old conspiracy theory.
I read those exchanges, and you are editing them to fit your narrative.
What I do know is that as POTUS, he unilaterally has the authority to put forth documentation that unequivocally supports his assertion, and I know he's not done so. Indeed, were there any legitimacy to his claims about having been spied upon, he'd have presented that documentary support at the same time he made the claim.
What’s behind Trump’s FBI spy theory?
Short answers ... supposition, speculation, and plain old conspiracy theory.
Deflection. They nailed his attorney.
You're more than free to add the missing context that changes the meaning of my exchange.
I don't care that much, just calling you out on dishonesty. Probably why you didn't do direct quotes with links.
Wow, the FBI uses informants. That's a revelation?
Sorry, but there can be spies without collusion. Funny how you believe every conspiracy theory out there when it comes to Trump, but the idea that people in positions of government power would do something bad? You dismiss them out of hand.
Lol. Try to be objective here, in spite of your hatred for Trump.
1. The use of an FBI government informant (spy) sent to monitor or entrap members of a political campaign is the kind of draconian crap that J Edgar Hoover's FBI engaged in. It's deeply embarrassing for the Bureau to have their informants outed anyway.
2. If the FBI had sent agents to infiltrate Gary Johnson's campaign, would you be this apathetic? No, of course not.
What’s behind Trump’s FBI spy theory?
Short answers ... supposition, speculation, and plain old conspiracy theory.
The FBI has and as likely, continues as we type, used informants and what's really called undercover agents to entrap anybody they can get to go along with the FBI's conspiracy.
One defendant was hit with 250 counts after the FBI clearly entrapped a young man and was convicted on 1 count of conspiracy. Of course not a single
one of his 'associate conspirators' were even charged...they were FBI.
Lol. Try to be objective here, in spite of your hatred for Trump.
1. The use of an FBI government informant (spy) sent to monitor or entrap members of a political campaign is the kind of draconian crap that J Edgar Hoover's FBI engaged in. It's deeply embarrassing for the Bureau to have their informants outed anyway.
2. If the FBI had sent agents to infiltrate Gary Johnson's campaign, would you be this apathetic? No, of course not.