• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

McCain Irrelevant, 'He's Dying Anyway,' White House Official Reportedly Says

veritas1 said:
It's a rather classless comment by a staffer that was leaked out of a private meeting. I wonder how many things have been said thousands of times in private WH meetings over the years that were never leaked that would have offended someone. I'm not sure what we would have done had we heard them all. Probably the government would have had to shut down.
Click to expand...

This comment leaked. In the real world, people are held accountable for their words and deeds.
 
veritas1 said:
No, they are using McCain and the comment to get after Trump. Everyone knows that.
Click to expand...

That is a possibility. It was an uncalled for comment, no need to defend it. Aren't we all guilty of saying something we came to regret, or are we just perfect in every way?
 
Lovebug said:
That is a possibility. It was an uncalled for comment, no need to defend it. Aren't we all guilty of saying something we came to regret, or are we just perfect in every way?
Click to expand...

It can't be defended. It was awful. The lingering question just remains why that type of behavior is permitted in the WH.
 
veritas1 said:
It's a rather classless comment by a staffer that was leaked out of a private meeting. I wonder how many things have been said thousands of times in private WH meetings over the years that were never leaked that would have offended someone. I'm not sure what we would have done had we heard them all. Probably the government would have had to shut down.
Click to expand...

exactly--I was in a settlement conference with plaintiff's counsel, the other Defendent's counsel, a federal magistrate (one of the best of 9 I had tried civil cases in front of), negotiating a "dead baby" cases where the plaintiffs-two unmarried individuals with a history of drinking and drug abuse wanted millions when their child died shortly after an emergency C-Section. They blamed the hospital and the doctor because the doctor had to wait for the on-call anesthesiologist to get to the hospital. I was representing the doctor since he was acting as a federal employee for reasons not relevant here. When the magistrate took a look at the sworn testimony concerning the plaintiffs his first comments were-this is a low value case, this child, had it survived, was most likely to end up being a burden on society. Now that was upsetting to the parents when they heard it but it was absolutely true-the sort of candor needed in the proceeding.
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
That made me laugh. Except that he's relevant because he is a US senator with enormous power, he isn't relevant.
Click to expand...
Speaking of comical...

Since you dont seem to understand, I will try analogy...it'd be like an escaped loon in a crowded subway car with a live grenade... nothing of real consequence to say... but he does have power.

If still struggling, my condolences.
 
TurtleDude said:
horsecrap the TDS crowd makes mountains out of molehills.
Click to expand...

I think they just need something to keep their hopes up. What with the investigation puttering along as it is.
 
LowDown said:
He's being more diplomatic that I would have been. My response would be, "That's just the tumor talking."

That's all the deference any Republican owes McCain at this point.
Click to expand...

You would fit right in in the Trump Administration. No doubt, he'd love your blind loyalty. You should apply for a job there.
 
Dittohead not! said:
You would fit right in in the Trump Administration. No doubt, he'd love your blind loyalty. You should apply for a job there.
Click to expand...

Sorry, but it's been pretty ugly the way McCain has allowed himself to be consumed by pique. It goes way past his vote on Obamacare.
 
LowDown said:
Sorry, but it's been pretty ugly the way McCain has allowed himself to be consumed by pique. It goes way past his vote on Obamacare.
Click to expand...

McCain had the backbone to oppose Trump. It's really too bad we don't have more Congressmen with backbone. McCain will be missed.
 
LowDown said:
He's being more diplomatic that I would have been. My response would be, "That's just the tumor talking."

That's all the deference any Republican owes McCain at this point.
Click to expand...

lol

GOP Party Faithful
 
MateoMtnClimber said:
I would bet anyone $100 that the president laughed when he heard it. That's why Sadler still has a job and why the conservative movement in this country failed.
Click to expand...

I don't know about the "conservative movement" or what you might perceive it to be but Republicans hold the WH, the House, the Senate and about two thirds of all state houses and state legislatures. If they are failing, what are liberals doing? You can't build a political movement based on hating Trump and whining about your lot in life. That's pretty much all the left has.
 
Dittohead not! said:
McCain had the backbone to oppose Trump. It's really too bad we don't have more Congressmen with backbone. McCain will be missed.
Click to expand...

It took absolutely no courage at all to oppose Trump during the primaries. People who supported Trump and said he could win were laughed at. McCain went with the general consensus and clutched his pearls along with the rest at Trump's crude remarks. Surely a winning formula for McCain, and time tested.

Then Trump won.
 
LowDown said:
It took absolutely no courage at all to oppose Trump during the primaries. People who supported Trump and said he could win were laughed at. McCain went with the general consensus and clutched his pearls along with the rest at Trump's crude remarks. Surely a winning formula for McCain, and time tested.

Then Trump won.
Click to expand...
And, unlike the spineless wussies who wouldn't endorse Trump until after he had already won, but then put their personal ethics aside and supported him afterward for their own political gain, McCain had the balls to oppose his idiocy after the election.
 
veritas1 said:
I don't know about the "conservative movement" or what you might perceive it to be but Republicans hold the WH, the House, the Senate and about two thirds of all state houses and state legislatures. If they are failing, what are liberals doing? You can't build a political movement based on hating Trump and whining about your lot in life. That's pretty much all the left has.
Click to expand...

You'd think they could accomplish something other than expansion of government, debt, and our wars.

lol

"conservatives".
 
Dittohead not! said:
And, unlike the spineless wussies who wouldn't endorse Trump until after he had already won, but then put their personal ethics aside and supported him afterward for their own political gain, McCain had the balls to oppose his idiocy after the election.
Click to expand...

Oppose? More like have a fit of pique.
 
7b3d5cdf5cd950328ae03c6fea95edf0.jpg
 
LowDown said:
He's being more diplomatic that I would have been. My response would be, "That's just the tumor talking."

That's all the deference any Republican owes McCain at this point.
Click to expand...

....says the Deplorable.
 
This event, the whole McCain dust up is simply more evidence that we are in massive disrepair with certain group constituencies within the country aware that they are themselves ripping it asunder while others simply do not acknowledge or see the signs all around us.

I have rarely sided with McCain on the issues. However I have to acknowledge his bravery in combat and his courage under duress. I literally have no choice or I must admit that I have idea what the words bravery or courage mean.

To have Corporal Bone Spurs disparage McCain as he has over nothing more than political disagreement as if Trump was the all perfect, all knowing always accurate politician and hence completely above reproach or disagreement is tolerable only to the extent that one knows Donald is a complete idiot. However we now have members of congress that are veterans not only willingly disparaging McCain but claiming that "most of the veterans they know" agree that McCain has done nothing to distinguish himself.

Sorry, those members of congress that actually served and adopt this position ARE LYING and through their teeth for that matter.

We think we are a country that was once great and under Trump's leadership will be great again? We are kidding ourselves. The very people that wave and wear this silly MAGA hat are standing in the way of achieving greatness. All we will achieve is worldwide understand of what a fraud we have become. To have gotten to the point where actual veterans are wiling to sell out this hard simply tells you that for however long we are doing this, we are not making progress. Heck we are not even treading water. We are devolving as a country.

Maybe the world will be better off understanding us for what we have become...maybe not. But for us not to even understand where this going is the most discouraging aspect of this entire sorry affair.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Speaking of comical...

Since you dont seem to understand, I will try analogy...it'd be like an escaped loon in a crowded subway car with a live grenade... nothing of real consequence to say... but he does have power.

If still struggling, my condolences.
Click to expand...

No, your word was "relevant". Don't play childish games with me. In your analogy, which is somehow even dumber than the first thing you said, the loon with a grenade on a subway is "irrelevant". Your words. Not mine. Deal with it. Good luck with the irrelevant bird holding live explosives on your commute.
 
veritas1 said:
I don't know about the "conservative movement" or what you might perceive it to be but Republicans hold the WH, the House, the Senate and about two thirds of all state houses and state legislatures. If they are failing, what are liberals doing? You can't build a political movement based on hating Trump and whining about your lot in life. That's pretty much all the left has.
Click to expand...

That will be a very long conversation. I don't think the modern Republican party has anything to do with political conservatism. Republicans hold a lot of offices, but they aren't conservative. The Democratic party is not better than the Republican party in any way, but it tends to espouse philosophical liberalism far more consistently than the Republican party promotes conservatism. This president put that party on a kamikaze mission.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom