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The Trump Bottom Line- A Prediction

My prediction

With Trump's new legal team, I predict there will not be some long drawn out interview with Mueller.

If Mueller attempts to subpoena Trump, this thing will be headed to the Supreme Court.

While tied up in court battles,

Horowitz will have released his report, Congress will be finished with their reports and we are going to learn just how weaponized and politicized the leadership in the Obama administration of intel agencies, FBI, DOJ and the State Department became. And if it is as bad as some are claiming then there are several people who will be facing charges. And if that is the case, it is going to validate Trump's claim of a witch hunt.
 
vesper said:
My prediction

With Trump's new legal team, I predict there will not be some long drawn out interview with Mueller.

If Mueller attempts to subpoena Trump, this thing will be headed to the Supreme Court.

While tied up in court battles,

Horowitz will have released his report, Congress will be finished with their reports and we are going to learn just how weaponized and politicized the leadership in the Obama administration of intel agencies, FBI, DOJ and the State Department became. And if it is as bad as some are claiming then there are several people who will be facing charges. And if that is the case, it is going to validate Trump's claim of a witch hunt.
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Good luck with that.

Mueller does not need Trump either in front of the grand jury or in interview to bury these lightweights. He will take Trump under a subpoena. But he does not need him. By the time Mueller and Avenatti are done with this crowd, Trump will be squealing, looking for a way out.

More THE DEEEEP STAAATE nonsense. You go ahead and hang your hopes on that.
 
Something that people forget is that a Senate trial would be televised. There would be public opinion polls. Public opinion will be even more important than the Senators.

When lie after lie is revealed public opinion will turn against this conman.

Trump won’t survive an impeachment vote. His only hope is that the GOP keep the House.


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vesper said:
My prediction

With Trump's new legal team, I predict there will not be some long drawn out interview with Mueller.

If Mueller attempts to subpoena Trump, this thing will be headed to the Supreme Court.

While tied up in court battles,

Horowitz will have released his report, Congress will be finished with their reports and we are going to learn just how weaponized and politicized the leadership in the Obama administration of intel agencies, FBI, DOJ and the State Department became. And if it is as bad as some are claiming then there are several people who will be facing charges. And if that is the case, it is going to validate Trump's claim of a witch hunt.
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Wow.

Beliefs like yours are truly a testament to the power and influence of the conservative fake new media in this country.

No sane, rational American honestly believes that nonsense.

Geez..:roll:
 
I think there’s an even chance he will resign before his term is up.
 
haymarket said:
Two things have been made abundantly clear as to where the entire political controversy with Trump and Russia will end up:


1- Trump will throw every single person under the bus who is necessary to save his own skin from legal jeopardy. This includes everyone who works for him or did work for him and includes his own children and family members.

2- Trump will bet that he can win a Senate conviction vote after House impeachment by securing the votes of at least 34 GOP Senators in his favor.

If he has to admit lies, he will do that.
If he has to change every story he ever told, he will do that.
If he has to sacrifice everyone around him to save his own sorry hide, he will do that.
If he has to admit he was a wide eyed political virgin who did not know his ass from a hole in the ground, he will do that.
And if doing all that stops the nation dead in its tracks and makes the current tribal climate even worse, he will do that too.

In the end, the only thing that matters to Trump is that Trump survive.

And then two other things will happen:

1 - Pardons will be given after Trump secures his acquittal before the Senate. At least to those who remained loyal and did not turn on him.

2 - Trump will not run again in 2020 after securing his acquittal before the Senate so he can claim he won his last battle and left on his own terms as president.

Mark it down. Bet on it.
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An accurate predication, maybe. I will wait until Nov 2018, there may be some major political power shifts after, who knows. I did not think the Fornicator in Chief would win 2016, but Dems sat on there duffs along with lazy ass campaigner Hilldog, both took it for granted. The one person who did not was Bill, he told her to get her ass to Wisconsin and Ohio that last week, she should have listened to her husband. One thing is for sure, the Dems will not make that make that fatal error this year or in 2020.
 
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ultmd said:
My predictions:

1. Donald Trump will NOT finish his first term in office.

2. Trump will grant so many outrageously egregious pardons on his way out the door that it will prompt serious consideration of a 21st century Constitutional Convention to reform several things, including pardon power, Executive Authority and campaign finance reform.

3. Before Trump leaves office, we will see a large faction of the GOP/conservative movement (including some prominent elected officials) begin to openly embrace Putin and other leading examples of authoritarianism, in rhetoric, if not in deeds as well.

4. Upon Trump's exit, we will (once again, like clockwork) see another explosion of the various Sovereign Citizen/Nativist/Nationalist/alt-right movements in the U.S.

5. The next elected American president will have to deal with a new Republican Party.

6. Five years from now, half of the Trump acolytes will have re-written their own personal history to deny that they ever really supported him or his views (much as the pro-segregation/anti-civil rights crowd did in the years after the civil rights acts of '64 and '68)....while the other half will be spending their time trying to equate every new current event into a "worse than Trumpgate" fake-scandal.

Feel free to quote me on these. I won't be afraid to defend them.
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i agree with these two predictions the most. I feel the next president will likely be a Democrat, who will deal with a Republican party hell bent on destroying he or she, even worse than the GOP acted during the Obama years. Trump will also be a horrible ex president who will do nothing but fan the flames, and undoubtedly attack the next Democrat president any way he can.

I also agree that most of the Trump voters will abandon Trump in the near future. Most of the same GOP voters who voted for Trump also voted for Bush Jr. twice, and yet most of them today pretend they never voted or ever supported Bush for 8 years, even though we know they did. The same will happen with Trump once another GOP politician is elected president. They'll worship that GOP president, all while pretending that they never really supported Trump or his views. The rest will just try to attack the next Dem president, all while pretending how great they had it during the Trump years.
 
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ultmd said:
My predictions:

1. Donald Trump will NOT finish his first term in office.

2. Trump will grant so many outrageously egregious pardons on his way out the door that it will prompt serious consideration of a 21st century Constitutional Convention to reform several things, including pardon power, Executive Authority and campaign finance reform.

3. Before Trump leaves office, we will see a large faction of the GOP/conservative movement (including some prominent elected officials) begin to openly embrace Putin and other leading examples of authoritarianism, in rhetoric, if not in deeds as well.

4. Upon Trump's exit, we will (once again, like clockwork) see another explosion of the various Sovereign Citizen/Nativist/Nationalist/alt-right movements in the U.S.

5. The next elected American president will have to deal with a new Republican Party.

6. Five years from now, half of the Trump acolytes will have re-written their own personal history to deny that they ever really supported him or his views (much as the pro-segregation/anti-civil rights crowd did in the years after the civil rights acts of '64 and '68)....while the other half will be spending their time trying to equate every new current event into a "worse than Trumpgate" fake-scandal.

Feel free to quote me on these. I won't be afraid to defend them.
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Excellent . I really like what you did there. #6 is especially insightful and I can see that happening.
 
haymarket said:
I do not remember saying that. Could you please reproduce that?

Please remember that one need not be correct on every speculative prediction they make to engage in this business.
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Ummmmmmmmmm. Name even one you have been correct on. I'm not going to waste my time searching for the other. For now I'll just take your word that you didn't say that.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
If you want to know why she was first elected in 1990, you have to look up the history of her congressional district and the number of elections she has successfully won.

If you put the same amount of energy into researching history that you spend on bashing liberalism, then this would not be an issue.
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Maybe she wasn't as crazy back then. Could have Alzheimers or some degenerating brain disease.
 
jnug said:
Oh my God. We are such a mess in this country.

Her district CANNOT be out of touch with itself! Maxin's job is to represent her district to the best of her ability.

Are you out of touch with yourself? I would guess you would answer No to that question.

For all we know her district is screaming Impeach Impeach in her ear. If it is, I would suggest to her that it is still politically obtuse for her to take what might be a heartfelt consideration from her district and use the megaphone of the House to build that up to more than what it can possibly be at this point.

It is politically obtuse. But its not more than that.
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I'm not sure what I said that was wrong. I said her district may be out of touch with anything but extreme liberalism, just as a Trump district may be out of touch with anything but extreme Trumpism.
 
haymarket said:
Trying to insult me as part of your duties to defend Trump is a very poor substitute for debate.
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OH, so you can accuse others of "rationalizing" but others can't accuse you of the same thing.
 
haymarket said:
The purpose is the pursuit of justice. And that has nothing to do with politics.
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Investigating Hillary was the pursuit of justice. Investigating Bill Clinton was the pursuit of justice. In both cases, the deep state came to their defense, just as the Republican deep state may come to Trump's defense. But, you will cry foul if that happens when you didn't cry foul when both Hillary and her husband beat the rap.
 
Moderate Right said:
Ummmmmmmmmm. Name even one you have been correct on. I'm not going to waste my time searching for the other. For now I'll just take your word that you didn't say that.
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Nice try attempting to shift the burden of proof but I will not save your ass. Its up to you and only to you to provide the proof of the statement you made.
 
Moderate Right said:
Investigating Hillary was the pursuit of justice. Investigating Bill Clinton was the pursuit of justice. In both cases, the deep state came to their defense, just as the Republican deep state may come to Trump's defense. But, you will cry foul if that happens when you didn't cry foul when both Hillary and her husband beat the rap.
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I have faith that justice will be done in the case of the Russian/Trump campaign crimes.

God Bless America!
 
haymarket said:
Nice try attempting to shift the burden of proof but I will not save your ass. Its up to you and only to you to provide the proof of the statement you made.
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I already threw in the towel on the statement I made and will take your word for it. It is up to you to prove that any prediction you have ever made regarding Trump has come true.
 
haymarket said:
I have faith that justice will be done in the case of the Russian/Trump campaign crimes.

God Bless America!
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Sure. If the House impeaches Trump and the Senate doesn't vote to convict, you will be all over it.
 
Moderate Right said:
I already threw in the towel on the statement I made and will take your word for it. It is up to you to prove that any prediction you have ever made regarding Trump has come true.
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What predictions about Trump did I make that can be tested?
 
Moderate Right said:
Sure. If the House impeaches Trump and the Senate doesn't vote to convict, you will be all over it.
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That would depend on the proceedings and the evidence and what it says.
 
ultmd said:
"A Donald Trump presidency will be the most corrupt and incompetent presidential administration in the history of the republic."

That one was dead solid. And it's the one that counts.

In truth, almost ever prediction of corruption and/or incompetence made about Trump has come true, or in well on the way to being validated.
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You have evidence of that?
 
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