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Joy is back

apdst said:
Amazing how the Libbos are giving her a free pass. :lamo
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I hate how some on the right try to make everything wrong seem equally wrong. Shoplifting a candy bar and armed bank robbery are both wrong but they’re not equally wrong.

Ted Cruz was at a rally where Phil Robertson said homosexuality was evil. That’s not the same as some gay jokes.

And very few people on the left believe in freaking out over every little comment. Bragging about molesting women is no trivial comment.


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lurchadams said:
Oh, sure. Give me a break!

Al Franken (accused of groping and kissing adult women) - GONE! Roy Moore, accused pedophile, racist, and birther, kicked out of office twice almost gets elected to the US Senate. It's not about hatred at all, it's about doing the right thing.. Not only do you guys forgive anyone with an "R" after their name of their sins, you end up electing the scumbags to high office.

But the folks on the left are the hypocrites - whatever gets you to sleep at night.
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I think you are missing the point.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I think you are missing the point.
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No. You claimed that we're so "unjustifiably" eager to destroy Trump. You guys were calling for Franken's head even before he had the chance to defend himself.

Again you have no right to accuse anyone of hypocrisy.

I understood your "point" - misguided as it was.
 
lurchadams said:
No. You claimed that we're so "unjustifiably" eager to destroy Trump. You guys were calling for Franken's head even before he had the chance to defend himself.

Again you have no right to accuse anyone of hypocrisy.

I understood your "point" - misguided as it was.
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I dont see the Left objecting to how these #METOO accused are being treated, generally having their lives either wrecked or ruined at warp speed while never seeing the inside of a courtroom because we can be bothered with justice.

I am suggesting a case of crocodile tears.
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
I dont see the Left objecting to how these #METOO accused are being treated, generally having their lives either wrecked or ruined at warp speed while never seeing the inside of a courtroom because we can be bothered with justice.

I am suggesting a case of crocodile tears.
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First of all. I wasn't addressing you. Secondly, you're making absolutely no sense. Not everyone accused of sexual harassment goes to court. Many cases are handled internally, by H/R departments. Even then, justice is not always done, or is unjustifiably delayed. Taking Bill O'Reilly for example, Faux was content to keep paying millions to women to keep them quiet and fired O'Reilly only when his mistreatment of women became public.

I know you'd rather still live in a world where abused women stay silent, but unfortunately for you, times have changed.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Did they? Most of those on the right could care less what anybody opined about 10 years ago. What they believe/do now is what is important. We might point out something somebody said 10 years ago, and point out the hypocrisy when the left treats that differently for a leftist than they do for somebody on the right.

The latter was pretty much the case when it came to Joy.
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That is not really true, but I am sure you believe it.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I dont see the Left objecting to how these #METOO accused are being treated, generally having their lives either wrecked or ruined at warp speed while never seeing the inside of a courtroom because we can be bothered with justice.

I am suggesting a case of crocodile tears.
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The #METOO movement has taken down just as many liberals as conservatives. But of course a huge creep like Trump remains.

Do you believe Trump when he says he didn’t have an affair with Stormy Daniels? Of course you don’t. So why would you believe him about anything else. He has no respect for you his supporters.

And the Trump Access Hollywood tapes are more about how what he said corroborates the claims of his accusers.

Be honest with yourself. Imagine Obama saying the same things while dozens of women leveling accusations. Imagine Obama with the same personal life as Trump.


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lurchadams said:
No. You claimed that we're so "unjustifiably" eager to destroy Trump. You guys were calling for Franken's head even before he had the chance to defend himself.

Again you have no right to accuse anyone of hypocrisy.

I understood your "point" - misguided as it was.
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No, the left was calling for Frankens head, not the right. It was the intolerant left that drove him from office, not the right. Seriously dude, this just happened a year ago. How can you have already forgotten how this went down? My guess, TDS affects more than just the reasoning function of the mind, it also decimates the memory.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
The #METOO movement has taken down just as many liberals as conservatives. But of course a huge creep like Trump remains.

Do you believe Trump when he says he didn’t have an affair with Stormy Daniels? Of course you don’t. So why would you believe him about anything else. He has no respect for you his supporters.

And the Trump Access Hollywood tapes are more about how what he said corroborates the claims of his accusers.

Be honest with yourself. Imagine Obama saying the same things while dozens of women leveling accusations. Imagine Obama with the same personal life as Trump.


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The media hid much of the questionable things in obamas past.

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SonOfDaedalus said:
I hate how some on the right try to make everything wrong seem equally wrong. Shoplifting a candy bar and armed bank robbery are both wrong but they’re not equally wrong.

Ted Cruz was at a rally where Phil Robertson said homosexuality was evil. That’s not the same as some gay jokes.

And very few people on the left believe in freaking out over every little comment. Bragging about molesting women is no trivial comment.


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Gay jokes aren't as wrong when a black, Liberal woman says them? :lamo

You proved my point for me.
 
Gondwanaland said:
But she didn't. She tried to make up a story about a hacker, and then when it was shown she was full of it on that, gave a vague statement that she "believes" she never wrote the things she very clearly did write, and then brought in a bunch of gay folks to try to pad her image.
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Perhaps you should pay attention.

You left out part of it, why don't I feel surprised.
 
Fletch said:
No, the left was calling for Frankens head, not the right. It was the intolerant left that drove him from office, not the right. Seriously dude, this just happened a year ago. How can you have already forgotten how this went down? My guess, TDS affects more than just the reasoning function of the mind, it also decimates the memory.
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Ah, my favorite left-bashing friend. I missed you so!
 
apdst said:
Gay jokes aren't as wrong when a black, Liberal woman says them?

You proved my point for me.
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No, you've proven what I suspected, that you accept that hypocrisy.

As was the case with Blacks, people had to apologise, and change their view.

Except those that didn't, and remain bigoted opponents of human rights.
 
Saladin4 said:
Ah?.....It was an all out assault on essentially a minor media figure...But she is a unashamed Liberal so she was targeted by the Alt Right...Welcome to the culture wars 2018
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She has been protected by the mountainous hypocrisy of the left.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
The #METOO movement has taken down just as many liberals as conservatives. But of course a huge creep like Trump remains.

Do you believe Trump when he says he didn’t have an affair with Stormy Daniels? Of course you don’t. So why would you believe him about anything else. He has no respect for you his supporters.

And the Trump Access Hollywood tapes are more about how what he said corroborates the claims of his accusers.

Be honest with yourself. Imagine Obama saying the same things while dozens of women leveling accusations. Imagine Obama with the same personal life as Trump.


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Trump does not believe in respect in most cases, he is all about the winning, which we knew when we elected him.
 
Saladin4 said:
Strange the crazed Alt Right targeted her for statements made 10 years back
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NO! Say it ain't so! Better tell the Left that Access Hollywood tape should be ignored!!
Shoot, they made an entire march about ******s based on that tape!
 
AlbqOwl said:
Did they? Most of those on the right could care less what anybody opined about 10 years ago. What they believe/do now is what is important. We might point out something somebody said 10 years ago, and point out the hypocrisy when the left treats that differently for a leftist than they do for somebody on the right.

The latter was pretty much the case when it came to Joy.
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Exactly. It's how Reid handled being CAUGHT in her homophobic attacks which rankles. Her facile excuse was both insulting and embarrassing. As a journalist, the fact that she peddled a lie in order be escape being held responsible for her horrible actions in the past tells me that she hasn't changed one damn bit.
If Laura Ingraham had done this, the Left would be once again calling for her head on a stick and a rock tied around her waist.
 
late said:
Exactly, and a point made repeatedly by the panel members. That the people doing the smearing were far worse than Joy, who has evolved along with everyone else.

Well, most everyone.
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"Evovled". What a joke. Reid tried her best to avoid being held responsible. She apologized, then denied she even wrote what she wrote. Reid offered a ridiculous excuse akin to "the dog ate my homework". Seriously, I'd be disappointed in a 6-year old who tried to pull this stunt.
Then, when her lies didn't gain any traction, she apologized and the Left is all forgiving.
 
AlbqOwl said:
And we were not those out to destroy Joy for something she said years ago either. It isn't a matter of forgiveness but simply a matter of what is important.

Now to instruct you on what is hypocrisy:

What Trump said 10 years ago is unimportant now. What Joy said 10 years ago is unimportant now. But you on the left were more than eager to destroy Trump for anything criticizable that he ever did however long ago it was. But you don't apply the same degree of hatred on somebody like Joy who is on your side. And therein is the hypocrisy.
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Plus, Trump apologized! But, that means absolutely nothing to the Left. They are hypocrites and so holier than thou. Apparently, they are the only ones who can "evolve".
If "evolve" means, "Yeah, you said something really hurtful and horrible but I forgive you because you're not a Republican or Trump supporter."
 
Fletch said:
No, the left was calling for Frankens head, not the right. It was the intolerant left that drove him from office, not the right. Seriously dude, this just happened a year ago. How can you have already forgotten how this went down? My guess, TDS affects more than just the reasoning function of the mind, it also decimates the memory.
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The Left sacrificed Franken at the altar of political expediency. They chose to coyote ugly Franken in hopes it would pay off in votes.
 
apdst said:
Gay jokes aren't as wrong when a black, Liberal woman says them? :lamo

You proved my point for me.
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Neither are calls for Trump's assassination.
 
late said:
No, you've proven what I suspected, that you accept that hypocrisy.

As was the case with Blacks, people had to apologise, and change their view.

Except those that didn't, and remain bigoted opponents of human rights.
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Why do you hate gays?
 
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