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Xelor

Xelor

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From the moment Trump entered the political fray, he's been sweating like a whore in church and screaming like a stuck pig about the scrutiny into and discovery of one after another of his life's shady dealings and incessant paltering. Well, I'm sorry, but he should have known long before he became a politician that he and his whole life would be placed under a microscope. That it is is fitting; he wanted to be and became the POTUS. America's citizens deserve a full accounting of the person who not only has the authority to unilaterally make material policy decisions that will affect us and their descendents' daily lives, but who also represents us and our nation to the world.

Trump feels very differently about the nature of disclosure to which the American people are entitled. He's rejected precedent by not releasing his tax returns, so we have no idea of what is the actual nature of his business entanglements. He's had his "fixer" obtain "hush" contracts. Knowing that media outlets discuss what a POTUS discusses, he rarely discusses the actual policy changes his seconds at the various departments, bureaus and agencies, thus reducing scrutiny on the actual policies he's implemented. All that while having also claimed to be a champion for transparency.

Quite simply, I think "the lady" doth protesteth too much. Trump's been considering a run for the presidency since his 1980s interview on Oprah. At the very least he could have cleaned up his act so that at the very least so that when the scrutiny came, it wouldn't find anything. But he didn't do that, so he must now suffer the consequences. I think he should be a man about it, let the scandalous stuff play out and stop all the bitching and moaning about it, and start talking about the various initiatives he's implementing.

He'll he could start by articulating clear and coherent policies that his cabinet and ambassadors can set about bringing to fruition. That'd be useful for everyone for at the very least his "generals" wouldn't say one thing only to have Trump reverse it a day or less later. Of course, to articulate a policy, one must think about a matter and formulate one, which, of course, Trump hasn't time to do because he's too busy tweeting about "palace intrigue" and his status as a supposed victim. The only thing of which he's a victim is his own BS.
 
Xelor said:
From the moment Trump entered the political fray, he's been sweating like a whore in church and screaming like a stuck pig about the scrutiny into and discovery of one after another of his life's shady dealings and incessant paltering. Well, I'm sorry, but he should have known long before he became a politician that he and his whole life would be placed under a microscope. That it is is fitting; he wanted to be and became the POTUS. America's citizens deserve a full accounting of the person who not only has the authority to unilaterally make material policy decisions that will affect us and their descendents' daily lives, but who also represents us and our nation to the world.

Trump feels very differently about the nature of disclosure to which the American people are entitled. He's rejected precedent by not releasing his tax returns, so we have no idea of what is the actual nature of his business entanglements. He's had his "fixer" obtain "hush" contracts. Knowing that media outlets discuss what a POTUS discusses, he rarely discusses the actual policy changes his seconds at the various departments, bureaus and agencies, thus reducing scrutiny on the actual policies he's implemented. All that while having also claimed to be a champion for transparency.

Quite simply, I think "the lady" doth protesteth too much. Trump's been considering a run for the presidency since his 1980s interview on Oprah. At the very least he could have cleaned up his act so that at the very least so that when the scrutiny came, it wouldn't find anything. But he didn't do that, so he must now suffer the consequences. I think he should be a man about it, let the scandalous stuff play out and stop all the bitching and moaning about it, and start talking about the various initiatives he's implementing.

He'll he could start by articulating clear and coherent policies that his cabinet and ambassadors can set about bringing to fruition. That'd be useful for everyone for at the very least his "generals" wouldn't say one thing only to have Trump reverse it a day or less later. Of course, to articulate a policy, one must think about a matter and formulate one, which, of course, Trump hasn't time to do because he's too busy tweeting about "palace intrigue" and his status as a supposed victim. The only thing of which he's a victim is his own BS.
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And yet look at all the very corrupt people who run around lying trying to grab both wealth and power and largely succeeding.....and nobody cares.....Washington as just one of many examples is corrupt through and through, even the dim can see that now.....

WHAT ABOUT THEM?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
And yet look at all the very corrupt people who run around lying trying to grab both wealth and power and largely succeeding.....and nobody cares.....Washington as just one many examples is corrupt through and through.

WHAT ABOUT THEM?
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Look at them or don't; either way, others' deeds have nothing to do with Trump and his.
 
Xelor said:
From the moment Trump entered the political fray, he's been sweating like a whore in church and screaming like a stuck pig about the scrutiny into and discovery of one after another of his life's shady dealings and incessant paltering. Well, I'm sorry, but he should have known long before he became a politician that he and his whole life would be placed under a microscope. That it is is fitting; he wanted to be and became the POTUS. America's citizens deserve a full accounting of the person who not only has the authority to unilaterally make material policy decisions that will affect us and their descendents' daily lives, but who also represents us and our nation to the world.

Trump feels very differently about the nature of disclosure to which the American people are entitled. He's rejected precedent by not releasing his tax returns, so we have no idea of what is the actual nature of his business entanglements. He's had his "fixer" obtain "hush" contracts. Knowing that media outlets discuss what a POTUS discusses, he rarely discusses the actual policy changes his seconds at the various departments, bureaus and agencies, thus reducing scrutiny on the actual policies he's implemented. All that while having also claimed to be a champion for transparency.

Quite simply, I think "the lady" doth protesteth too much. Trump's been considering a run for the presidency since his 1980s interview on Oprah. At the very least he could have cleaned up his act so that at the very least so that when the scrutiny came, it wouldn't find anything. But he didn't do that, so he must now suffer the consequences. I think he should be a man about it, let the scandalous stuff play out and stop all the bitching and moaning about it, and start talking about the various initiatives he's implementing.

He'll he could start by articulating clear and coherent policies that his cabinet and ambassadors can set about bringing to fruition. That'd be useful for everyone for at the very least his "generals" wouldn't say one thing only to have Trump reverse it a day or less later. Of course, to articulate a policy, one must think about a matter and formulate one, which, of course, Trump hasn't time to do because he's too busy tweeting about "palace intrigue" and his status as a supposed victim. The only thing of which he's a victim is his own BS.
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To support your point, I humbly submit this recent fine Trump 'event'.





And with that, I think we can call it '/end thread' and grab a beer! :2razz:
 
Chomsky said:
To support your point, I humbly submit this recent fine Trump 'event'.





And with that, I think we can call it '/end thread' and grab a beer! :2razz:
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Clearly the pressures of the presidency, as well his mounting legal jeopardy, are causing Trump to have manic episodes.

Anybody that can't see it is either lying, deluded, or simply trying to protect the Republican brand.
 
Xelor said:


Look at them or don't; either way, others' deeds have nothing to do with Trump and his.
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When the system is unjust oh ya you can bet your ass that it does indeed matter.

If you dont know that much///the rest of the post has been omitted to avoid points///
 
Chomsky said:
To support your point, I humbly submit this recent fine Trump 'event'.





And with that, I think we can call it '/end thread' and grab a beer! :2razz:
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I LOVE the photo of trump at the beginning.

Either really old or very photoshopped.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
And yet look at all the very corrupt people who run around lying trying to grab both wealth and power and largely succeeding.....and nobody cares.....Washington as just one of many examples is corrupt through and through, even the dim can see that now.....

WHAT ABOUT THEM?
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You mean like:

  • Cohen
  • Flynn
  • Carson
  • Tillerson
  • Dubke
  • Spicer
  • Priebus
  • Mooch
  • Cohen-Watnick
  • Bannon
  • Gorka
  • Icahn
  • Price
  • Manigault (Omarosa)
  • Porter
  • Raffel
  • Hicks
  • Pruitt
  • Zinke
  • Mulvaney
  • Ryan
  • Kushner

We don't like them much either.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
You mean like:

  • Cohen
  • Flynn
  • Carson
  • Tillerson
  • Dubke
  • Spicer
  • Priebus
  • Mooch
  • Cohen-Watnick
  • Bannon
  • Gorka
  • Icahn
  • Price
  • Manigault (Omarosa)
  • Porter
  • Raffel
  • Hicks
  • Pruitt
  • Zinke
  • Mulvaney
  • Ryan
  • Kushner

We don't like them much either.
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But are you willing to deploy that same so-called justice against the other tribes in this very corrupt city?

See most of the FAILED INTELLIGENTSIA! and their apologists say no.










That is a NO-GO
 
MovingPictures said:
Somebody on Trumps legal counsel needs to give him an ultimatum: put down the phone, get off Twitter, or we're gone.
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Trump would respond well to that, he is of course at the end of the day a reasonable guy.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Trump would respond well to that, he is of course at the end of the day a reasonable guy.
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MovingPictures said:
Somebody on Trumps legal counsel needs to give him an ultimatum: put down the phone, get off Twitter, or we're gone.
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I'm sure many have, and many left, and nothing's changed.

Trump might have been forced into a desperate place, where his legal future is only winnable through political over-ride of the criminal justice system. And that's exactly what he's doing here, and it's working well enough with those that matter.

You & I are essentially non-entities only along for the ride ...
 
Chomsky said:
I'm sure many have, and many left, and nothing's changed.

Trump might have been forced into a desperate place, where his legal future is only winnable through political over-ride of the criminal justice system. And that's exactly what he's doing here, and it's working well enough with those that matter.

You & I are essentially non-entities only along for the ride ...
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I think he's come to the realization that whether he want it or not, Mueller's report is coming, and the SDNY is going to proceed with their probe, too. He knows that bad news awaits him in the inquires, so he's doing exactly as you say, playing politics in hopes it immunizes him from any sort of congressional check.

That might work in the end, but the damage to the GOP is going to be enormous.
 
We see it here in Europe too, that far right parties and politicians exploit people’s anger against corruption. That at the same time those far right politicians are themselves very corrupt and also getting away with it because they are able to create a very strong we against them mentality amongt their supporters. While also reducing the freedom of the press if they gain power.

For example, Hungary that have seen an increase in corruption under the Orban government.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-corruption-index-watchdog-says-idUSKCN1G52E6

A Whiff of Corruption in Orbán's Hungary - SPIEGEL ONLINE

While at the same time fallen to a 73:th place on the World Press Freedom Index.

https://rsf.org/en/hungary
 
Hawkeye10 said:
And yet look at all the very corrupt people who run around lying trying to grab both wealth and power and largely succeeding.....and nobody cares.....Washington as just one of many examples is corrupt through and through, even the dim can see that now.....

WHAT ABOUT THEM?
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It's called targeted, hypocritical bias.
 
Mycroft said:
It's called targeted, hypocritical bias.
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Call it what you want...Its still doesn't make it okay. It is fact that at this point in Trumps presidency his turn over rate is doubled that of any other president and is on pace to be one of the most corrupt presidents we have ever had. Hypocrisy? Over half of the things that come from Trumps mouth and twitter posts is hypocrisy at its finest.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
But are you willing to deploy that same so-called justice against the other tribes in this very corrupt city?

See most of the FAILED INTELLIGENTSIA! and their apologists say no.










That is a NO-GO
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Do you realize that there are other things that fit the definition of corruption other than "leaking," memos?

It's like that's the only thing you guys care about. Leaking memos or emails is far from some of the misdeeds and corruption that these other people have committed. But you and your own failed INTELLIGENTSIA refuse to see it.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Do you realize that there are other things that fit the definition of corruption other than "leaking," memos?

It's like that's the only thing you guys care about. Leaking memos or emails is far from some of the misdeeds and corruption that these other people have committed. But you and your own failed INTELLIGENTSIA refuse to see it.
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You really should read some of my work, as you are clearly lost.
 
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