House chaplain forced out by Ryan

justabubba said:

Why is there a designated chaplain for the Congress?

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That is a very very good question. I have no idea why there should be a House Chaplain. However if there is going to be one, why Ryan would be unhappy about a prayer that basically espoused the perspective upon which Ryan said the Tax Bill was based seems to me to be more about Ryan having lied about this tax bill in the first place. Why wasn't Ryan telling the Chaplain he really liked his prayer and that he was happy the Chaplain understood the perspective driving that particular piece of legislation?

Now the "hunt" for a new House Chaplain is on and all indications are that this is going to be a ridiculously politicized effort.

Stop already. There should not be a House Chaplain. If you want to have a Minister, go to a church or synagogue or Mosque or wherever.

Who does he want, Pat Robertson?

Gaius46 said:

That's a quite a stretch. Expressing a desire that class disparities not be exacerbated by the legislation is hardly a fire-eating political sentiment. I'd think it's a sentiment that most people would share - even those who'd want to see taxes cut. I think you'd be hard pressed to find people who want class disparities to increase.

It's a dick move on Ryan's part.

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It's typically portrayed as a political position, not a spiritual one. Lots of people on this board talk about income disparity as a political, but I don't recall ever seeing it portrayed in spiritual terms, except maybe as a dig against their political opposition.

I don't agree with what Ryan did, but the Chaplain mostly certainly made it political.

Moon said:

I'd say the Chaplain is the one doing the politicizing.

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Actually if you read what he said about the tax plan and what the GOP said about the tax plan it was almost exactly the same.

Moon said:

It's typically portrayed as a political position, not a spiritual one. Lots of people on this board talk about income disparity as a political, but I don't recall ever seeing it portrayed in spiritual terms, except maybe as a dig against their political opposition.

I don't agree with what Ryan did, but the Chaplain mostly certainly made it political.

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If you read my other post I said that what the Chaplain prayed for and what the GOP said about their tax plan when they submitted it to the public was almost exactly the same. Basically that it was balanced and that there would not be winners and losers and that everyone would win. I think that the head of the congress that picks the chaplain gave another reason, he wants a married man with children. Kind of lets the Catholics out of the equation doesn't it. So called Evangelical Christians don't see Catholics as a religion but a cult and especially southern ones hate Catholics. Surprisingly the Catholic religion is the single largest single religion in the USA at 22% of the population.

Actually this speaks volumes about the so called current Republican 'Christians'. They're hypocrites, all of them.

A man prays for the poor and gets fired. That's 180 degrees from what Jesus would do, and what he taught. But the current GOP is all about making the rich richer, and screw the poor.

hello franklin graham

Gaius46 said:

I think you'd be hard pressed to find people who want class disparities to increase.

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Apparently we have: the House leadership.

Moon said:

I'd say the Chaplain is the one doing the politicizing.

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Agreed. I imagine Jesus would never say anything about being fair, considering the poor, etc.

But wait! Jesus was criticized by the Romans for what they interpreted as political messages. Pontius Ryan sentenced Him, so the story goes.

Its about time we cracked down on all this praying. How do we know what people are praying for? What if its for the wrong things? Thanks, Rep. Ryan for ensuring that prayers are monitored. Perhaps some regulation at the federal level would be in order.

Ryan just wants a hypocrite Evangelical to bless his shameful House legislation.

**** you, Eddie Munster. may history remember you accurately.