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Mulvaney’s Advice to Bankers: Up Campaign Donations to Diminish Consumer Watchdog

Barnacle said:
Can't find a transcript, but at least Axios has a little more on that.

"... Yes, but: That doesn't exactly tell the full story behind Mulvaney's quote, which — when viewed in full — was meant to encourage constituents to take time to visit with their members of Congress. Mulvaney actually said that he'd prioritize a visit from a home district constituent over one from a lobbyist.

The full quote, in context:

“We had a hierarchy in my office in Congress. If you’re a lobbyist who never gave us money, I didn’t talk to you. If you’re a lobbyist who gave us money, I might talk to you. If you came from back home and sat in my lobby, I talk to you without exception, regardless of the financial contributions. People coming from back home, to tell people in Congress what issues are important to them, is one of the fundamental underpinnings of our representative democracy, and you have to continue to do it.

https://www.axios.com/mick-mulvaney...ers-d1eef896-0264-44b7-8587-bba6c790460d.html
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So, he's talking to a room full of banking industry lobbyists, and telling them that the only lobbyists he listens to are those who donate money. The message is pretty damn clear - donate money, and we'll listen. Of course everyone knows that's the case, so it's like pointing out bank robbers rob banks - that's what they do. Congressman spend hours every day on average begging for money, and those giving it know it buys access, which is why they give money.

What's repulsive about Mulvaney is he's been appointed head of an agency and publicly announces to everyone, including his banker buddies, that he's the fox appointed to guard the hen house. His comments and actions from day 1 make it crystal clear who he cares about - his banker buddies - and who he doesn't - consumers they rip off.
 
azgreg said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/us/mulvaney-consumer-financial-protection-bureau.html



Mick Mulvaney just said out loud that he could be bought.

How about that swamp?
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That is what donors do, buy politicians. Especially mega donors. I remember when Trump was asked about all the campaign donations he gave to Democrats and the democratic party once he decided to run as a Republican for the presidency. He stated, "I give, they give back." Trump may have lied about a whole bunch of things, but he was dead on with that statement.

You can bet the ranch when corporations, wall street firms, lobbyists, special interests, mega money donors donate to candidates and political parties, they sure ain't doing it out of civics. They are donating their millions for a good return on their investments. If those I just mentioned didn't get a good return, they're very smart business men, they wouldn't invest in political parties or candidates.

You can bet those politicians on the receiving end sure aren't about to bite the hand that feeds them. If I'm a banker or whatever, if I donate my millions to you and your party, then you make my doing business harder than what it was. You can be sure my millions, my donations are going to the other party, your opponent in the next election. You bit my hand.

I'll give, donate, invest in you if you take care of me and give me a return that warrants my investment. It is that simple.
 
Mycroft said:
I'd say he is an example of a non-swamp dweller and that voters should choose people like him.

1. “If you’re a lobbyist who never gave us money, I didn’t talk to you." Cool...he doesn't like lobbyists.

2. "If you’re a lobbyist who gave us money, I might talk to you.” He still doesn't like lobbyists, but since he accepted money he has an obligation of some kind to talk to them.

3. (the part you left out of your quote, azgreg) “If you came from back home and sat in my lobby, I talked to you without exception, regardless of the financial contributions,” said Mr. Mulvaney. Yes...this is a good thing.
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You forgot the "a)" to 3: "and after you leave I will forget you were ever there."
 
Barnacle said:
Can't find a transcript, but at least Axios has a little more on that.

"... Yes, but: That doesn't exactly tell the full story behind Mulvaney's quote, which — when viewed in full — was meant to encourage constituents to take time to visit with their members of Congress. Mulvaney actually said that he'd prioritize a visit from a home district constituent over one from a lobbyist.


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The full quote, in context:

“We had a hierarchy in my office in Congress. If you’re a lobbyist who never gave us money, I didn’t talk to you. If you’re a lobbyist who gave us money, I might talk to you. If you came from back home and sat in my lobby, I talk to you without exception, regardless of the financial contributions. People coming from back home, to tell people in Congress what issues are important to them, is one of the fundamental underpinnings of our representative democracy, and you have to continue to do it.

https://www.axios.com/mick-mulvaney...ers-d1eef896-0264-44b7-8587-bba6c790460d.html
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Yup. All those people that can afford to come to Washington he'll listen to.

He never said he'd actually do anything for those people.
 
What if...? said:
You forgot the "a)" to 3: "and after you leave I will forget you were ever there."
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shrug...

It's just as likely he'll say the same to the lobbyist.
 
I post of Trump Administration scandals in this forum virtually every day.

By far the most corrupt US government in my lifetime.
 
Mycroft said:
shrug...

It's just as likely he'll say the same to the lobbyist.
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Sure.

Congress doesn't bias towards donors over constituents. Both directions. Money gets what it wants and doesn't get what it doesn't want far more often than voters do.

All those politicians on both sides always do what's best for their constituents when they have to choose between voters and donors.

There isn't a body of research that proves that they do.
 
What if...? said:
Sure.

Congress doesn't bias towards donors over constituents. Both directions. Money gets what it wants and doesn't get what it doesn't want far more often than voters do.

All those politicians on both sides always do what's best for their constituents when they have to choose between voters and donors.

There isn't a body of research that proves that they do.
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LOL!!

So...somehow you went from "Mulvaney" to "Congress".

Champion long jumper, aren't you?
 
Mycroft said:
LOL!!

So...somehow you went from "Mulvaney" to "Congress".

Champion long jumper, aren't you?
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He was talking about when he was a congressperson, was he not?
 
What if...? said:
But he was talking about his time as a legislator, right?
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He is. About HIS time. He's not talking about Congress.

You are talking about Congress.
 
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