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The Trump Campaign and Bribery (Title 18 United States Code section 201)

ludin said:
No they were pretty evident about it. Clinton and DNC > Fusion > Steele > Russians.
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Which criminal investigation is chasing all politicians for all participating in opposition research?
None.

Keep trying to distract, it's embarrassing for you, and you deserve to wear that shame out in the open (or anonymously as it were).
 
Mach said:
Which criminal investigation is chasing all politicians for all participating in opposition research?
None.

Keep trying to distract, it's embarrassing for you, and you deserve to wear that shame out in the open (or anonymously as it were).
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Not trying to distract i am pointing out fact.
The fact that Mueller whose job was to investigate russian meddling is not investigating a group that it is known fact used russian agents
to try and influence the election shows how much of a sham investigation this really is.

there is no deflection about it

what is embarrassing is the fact you can't admit that the DNC and hillary clinton used russia to influence the election and that they should be investigated just like trump is.
 
ludin said:
what is embarrassing is the fact you can't admit that the DNC and hillary clinton used russia to influence the election and that they should be investigated just like trump is.
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What does that have to do with the OP (Bribery as related to the Trump campaign v Russia)?

Why aren't they investigating the people you so desperately wish they would? It's Republican controlled government, are you saying they are all democrats in hiding? lol. Or maybe they know the absolutely stupid rhetoric that they push (hannity, dobbs, tucker, brietbart, daily caller, etc.), is 100% b.s. to keep their poorly informed base busy, while they change government to benefit their biggest donors (Wealth and big corporations).? Gee I wonder.
 
Mach said:
What does that have to do with the OP (Bribery as related to the Trump campaign v Russia)?

Why aren't they investigating the people you so desperately wish they would? It's Republican controlled government, are you saying they are all democrats in hiding? lol. Or maybe they know the absolutely stupid rhetoric that they push (hannity, dobbs, tucker, brietbart, daily caller, etc.), is 100% b.s. to keep their poorly informed base busy, while they change government to benefit their biggest donors (Wealth and big corporations).? Gee I wonder.
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They aren't investigating them because the majority of muellers team is clinton supporters.
there is a conflict of interest.

There is no bribery attempt the article is another TDS liberal rant while ignoring facts.

Do you or do you not support the fact that clinton and the DNC used russia to try and influence the election?
stop deflectingg and answer the question. I want to see how hypocritical you are.

if you are so concerned with russia meddling then you should be outraged but i don't see it.
 
ludin said:
They aren't investigating them because the majority of muellers team is clinton supporters.
there is a conflict of interest.
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Conspiracy theory nonsense.
DOJ and congress can initiate special counsel investigations, Mueller...a Republican appointed by a Republican, didn't initiate his own investigation. Fact is there is no big Hillary investigation because Republicans in power know that's nonsense, and that only a portion of their ill-informed base actually believes that crap.

How are you so misinformed?

There is no bribery attempt the article is another TDS liberal rant while ignoring facts.
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Might as well pick the next lottery winner if you are omniscient.

Do you or do you not support the fact that clinton and the DNC used russia to try and influence the election?
stop deflectingg and answer the question. I want to see how hypocritical you are.
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Still off-topic. Also, influencing an election legally, is legal. Hence no one cares.

But now we have not only the Muller investigation, but the SD NY attorney's office feeling up Trumps right-hand man Cohen for crimes :) Enjoy the show.
 
RedFishBlueFish said:
The Trump Campaign and Bribery (Title 18 United States Code section 201)

There are a number of crimes that have been discussed that Trump and his campaign and associates could be charged with in the Mueller investigation. Some of the possibilities are; Obstruction of Justice, Providing False Statements to the FBI, Conspiracy to Violate the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, Conspiracy Against the U.S., Conspiracy to Defraud the U.S. by Interfering in an Election, Violation of Campaign Finance Laws, Klein Conspiracy, Honest Services Fraud, and Foreign Agent Registration Act Failures.

One crime that has received very little attention is Bribery. Good ole common everyday Bribery.

Trump or others who worked on the Trump campaign could have committed Bribery. Bribery can go back to campaigns and isn’t restricted to those in office. Perhaps the best chance for a bribery charge is in relation to the Trump Tower Meeting in which Don Junior, Manafort, Kushner and a bunch of Russians met. In the lead up to this meeting the possibility of the Russians having dirt on Hillary Clinton was discussed as well as the lessening of sanctions on Russia. This involves a quid pro quo.

What would the Trump Campaign get? Help in getting Trump elected both by release of the “dirt” on Clinton and the cyber attack that took place. What would the Russians get? Relief from the sanctions imposed by Obama with respect to the invasion of the Ukraine, sanctions relative to the inference in the election and sanctions regarding the Magnitsky Act (and possible future sanctions). If this or a similar quid pro quo could be proven that would be Bribery and could carry a 15 year sentence. (Title 18 United States Code section 201) The below cited article, the basis for much of this post, says that bribery is a much easier crime to prosecute and that it is something that most Federal prosecutors are familiar with and comfortable in executing.

Partial Timeline
June 9, 2016 Trump Tower Meeting
July 22, 2016 Hacked DNC emails released
August 23, 2016 Roger Stone communicates with Guccifer 2.0
Sept. 22 and Oct 3, 2016 Wikileaks contacts Donald Trump Jr.
October 11, 2016 Genius Junior speaks to Pro-Russia Group

Another arrow in Mueller?s quiver: The special counsel would be wise to focus on a criminal law few people have so far discussed
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Did you forget the Hillery campaign got dirt on Trump from Russia in the dossier, that sounds like the same thing doesn’t it? Or does it only count if it was Trumps campaign. I mean y’all wouldn’t be hypocrites would you?


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Parrish said:
Don't count on it. My question remains. Do YOU have reference to case law and ANY legal precedence? If not, your post is just more BS.
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I got precedence, Clinton did it to, is that BS


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MrShangles said:
I got precedence, Clinton did it to, is that BS


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Please cite your information re:title 18 US code section 201
 
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