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Well, It took all of about five minutes!!

And... ? He also knew that Steele had originally been hired by republican primary opponents, prior to Trump securing the nomination. What Comey did not know until early 2017 was that the dossier was going to be made public; that is why he briefed the president on it, to prepare him. So, tell me again why briefing the president on a matter that was soon to be public was such a terrible thing for Comey to do?

Never mind. I don't even want to read it. Believe what you want. I'm done with this silliness.

I didn't say that briefing the President on the dossier was a terrible thing to do. I was only pointing out that, contrary to your statement..."That information was not available early in 2017"...that information WAS available, even as early as Oct. 2016, and that Comey knew that information.
 
Comey knew that Clinton and the DNC hired Steele way back in Oct. 2016. That's when the FBI was using the dossier for their FISA application on Page.

Political opposition hires a foreign national with contacts in Russian intelligence for dirt on a presidential campaign, through an intermediary.

DOJ / FBI leadership use materials from that source for a FISA warrant to surveil members of the opposing political campaign.

Fair to say its questionable judgment that DOJ / FBI leadership used those materials for the FISA court warrant, considering its source, clearly given its political beginnings and its political contents.

And at the same time some are saying that Obama's DOJ / FBI leadership aren't rank political hacks? As already demonstrated in their handling of the Hillary email scandal?

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You implied that the FACT that Steele was contracted after Clinton hired Fusion was SIGNIFICANT. I asked how. He is a respected investigator. So why would this sequence of events somehow taint his findings? I believe the findings would be the same regardless of who had hired him. Do you disagree?

You haven't been following my conversation with others, have you? Look, I don't care if you are up to speed or not. That's your problem and it's easily remedied...read the thread. Then you'll understand why getting the facts straight is significant.

As to the rest..."respected investigator", "taint", "the findings"...all that has nothing to do with anything I've been saying. It's irrelevant...and dismissed.
 
You haven't been following my conversation with others, have you? Look, I don't care if you are up to speed or not. That's your problem and it's easily remedied...read the thread. Then you'll understand why getting the facts straight is significant.

As to the rest..."respected investigator", "taint", "the findings"...all that has nothing to do with anything I've been saying. It's irrelevant...and dismissed.

In posts #20 and #21 you make much of the fact that Steele was hired after Clinton campaign hired fusion. Read your own posts to get up to speed. You can dismiss whatever you'd like in an attempt to make it look as if you have a point.
 
You are wrong. Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush and other republican presidential candidates during the primary race initially went to a republican deep pocket donor, who hired GPS for opposition research; GPS hired Steel. After Trump secured the nomination, the DNC bought the same opposition research that had been previously purchased on behalf of those republican candidates.

FFS. GPS Fusion did not employ Steele until after the contract with Perkins Coie. You are peddling complete disinformation.
 
So the dossier existed before Steele was hired, right? Fusion GPS had the file, had been working on it before they hired Steele.

No. They didn't. The dossier was Steele and only Steele's work product. You are parroting a long debunked narrative. Check the link a few posts up.
 
What a pile of bullsh**. The FBi never puts out such info during an ongoing investigation. That is why they tried not to do so. And that is why the GOPers in the house did this. Later they will probably say, we can't use this as it has been leaked to the public. I wonder if people ever actually know how our legal system works, especially the FBI.

That is the whole idea behind this mess. To confuse the already dazed about our most important safeguard...the rule of law. This another Trump "hail mary pass" and Rudy is in the end zone. The circus is in town tonight. :lol:
 
No. They didn't. The dossier was Steele and only Steele's work product. You are parroting a long debunked narrative. Check the link a few posts up.

And don't forget that Steele could be the most qualified person alive to handle such an investigation. His credentials are impeccable and would never risk losing them for one job for Fusion.
 
Before Congress obtained the memos, CNN's Jake Tapper asked Comey on Thursday if he thought the Justice Department was right to turn them over. "I don't know, because I don't know what considerations the department has taken into account — it's fine by me," he said. (In a letter accompany the memos, Assistant Attorney General Stephen Boyd said that after consulting "the relevant parties," the Justice Department had concluded that giving Congress the memos would not adversely affect any ongoing investigation.)

"I'm totally fine with transparency," Comey said. "I've tried to be transparent throughout this, and I think what folks will see, if they get to see the memos, is I've been consistent since the very beginning, right after my encounters with President Trump, and I'm consistent in the book and try to be transparent in the book as well."

James Comey says he's 'totally fine' with the public reading his Trump memos


+1 2 Comey.
 
In posts #20 and #21 you make much of the fact that Steele was hired after Clinton campaign hired fusion. Read your own posts to get up to speed. You can dismiss whatever you'd like in an attempt to make it look as if you have a point.

Do you know WHY I am saying this?
 
The GOP House members forced the FBI to turn over the Comey Memo's to them. It took them about five minutes to leak them to the country. I think that they feel that in somehow they will be helpful to Trump. either in what they say or by making it more difficult for Trump to be convicted. I have to laugh at the GOP as they constantly complain about leaks and it seems that they and their staffs, including the Whitehouse staff, are the biggest leakers. I think that this goes to show you can't trust this bunch. I also think that the GOP has been upset about how leak proof the Mueller investigation has been. They, the GOP, I am sure were thinking that they could use such leaking to stop the investigation. That isn't going to happpen. Trump will have to fire himself out of this mess and then we will see if the GOP puts the country or party first.

The people have a right to know. Making them public was the whole reason Congress wanted the memos. They never made any bones about that.

This is their job: representing the people.
 
That information was not available early in 2017, although we now know it was originally funded as opposition research by a republican deep-pocket donor working on behalf of some republican opponents of Trump, primarily Ted Cruz and perhaps Jeb Bush, and was taken over by the DNC, also as opposition research, after Trump secured the republican nomination.

Good try, but nothing nefarious by Comey there.

Don't get me wrong, I think Comey is a showboater with an ego the size of Montana, but I don't think he's a partisan. He cares only about the reputation of the FBI; his mistake was his hubris in believing that he was the FBI.

Wow. This is the best, most precise, and most succinct summation of this entire thing that I've seen on here or elsewhere. You nailed it squarely on the head.

Comey isn't a partisan. He's arrogant, and he believed he was the FBI, and all he wanted to do was protect the FBI.
 
And don't forget that Steele could be the most qualified person alive to handle such an investigation. His credentials are impeccable and would never risk losing them for one job for Fusion.

You don't seem to get it. Foreign nationals are prohibited from interfering in US elections. You want collusion, that is straight up collusion. He paid Russians for opposition research on Donald Trump and then shopped it to media and the FBI. Who then used that unverified info for surveillance on the opposition party. How can none of that stink to hell to you?
 
You don't seem to get it. Foreign nationals are prohibited from interfering in US elections. You want collusion, that is straight up collusion. He paid Russians for opposition research on Donald Trump and then shopped it to media and the FBI. Who then used that unverified info for surveillance on the opposition party. How can none of that stink to hell to you?

Different conditioning.

Both side salivates when their bells are rung.

The most comprehensively manipulated society in history.
 
Mueller doen't need points. He's a functionary. Your beef is with the A-G's office.

Mueller is quite partisan to Comey. As we can see, Comey hates Trump. Mueller was turned down as director of the FBI to replace Comey just before being appointed to head the independent council. Think there are a WHOLE lot of conflicts of interest, here, bub.
 
Different conditioning.

Both side salivates when their bells are rung.

The most comprehensively manipulated society in history.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Trump is a saint and he picked some skeevy bastards like Manafort and Gates---I hate lobbyists, but it sure does look like Brennan, Rice, Clapper, McCabe, Comey, Page, Powers, Strozk all played parts in this debacle, some probably unaware of what the others were doing, just following partisan instincts to slam the other side and took it entirely too far. Possibly into illegal territory as McCabe is learning.
 
That information was not available early in 2017, although we now know it was originally funded as opposition research by a republican deep-pocket donor working on behalf of some republican opponents of Trump, primarily Ted Cruz and perhaps Jeb Bush, and was taken over by the DNC, also as opposition research, after Trump secured the republican nomination.

Good try, but nothing nefarious by Comey there.

Don't get me wrong, I think Comey is a showboater with an ego the size of Montana, but I don't think he's a partisan. He cares only about the reputation of the FBI; his mistake was his hubris in believing that he was the FBI.

That and his complete trust in McCabe...and his willingness to have complete trust in the dossier. I wonder if his wife and children wanting Hillary as the first woman president colored his investigation?:lol:
 
You don't seem to get it. Foreign nationals are prohibited from interfering in US elections. You want collusion, that is straight up collusion. He paid Russians for opposition research on Donald Trump and then shopped it to media and the FBI. Who then used that unverified info for surveillance on the opposition party. How can none of that stink to hell to you?

Yes. The Steele dossier was the one actual example of collusion with foreigners in the lead up to the 2016...that has been verified.
 
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Different conditioning.

Both side salivates when their bells are rung.

The most comprehensively manipulated society in history.

Your argument is it's OK because both sides do it? First, when has that axiom ever been proper and secondly, when did the other side 'commit' collusion?
 
Wow. This is the best, most precise, and most succinct summation of this entire thing that I've seen on here or elsewhere. You nailed it squarely on the head.

Comey isn't a partisan. He's arrogant, and he believed he was the FBI, and all he wanted to do was protect the FBI.

But it's not true. The Washington Free Beacon stopped funding Fusion GPS after it became apparent Trump would win the primaries. The DNC/Clinton campaign picked up funding, it was then Fusion GPS hired Steele to investigate the public knowledge of Trumps Russian business connections. All of this has been publicly stated by countless publications left and right.
 
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