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List Of Things Trump Has Done Wrong Or Bad

Vetplus40 said:
Once lying was off limits, I was struggling to come up with something positive to say. I guess that I could have listed screwing porn stars and wife cheating as positive tRump attributes, but that would be a bit disingenuous. It appears that most of his DP supporters are either supportive or jealous of tRrump's extraneous "extra marital" activities, but I really don't consider those positive attributes.
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Even without including lies, there is plenty to criticize Trump for beginning with

pardoning Libby and Arpaio, calling white nationalists fine people, agreeing to meet with the North Koreans, doing nothing in response when russian soldiers attacked US soldiers in Syria, appointing a foriegn agent to be his National Security Officer, cancelling DACA, and the list goes on and on
 
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sangha said:
Even without including lies, there is plenty to criticize Trump for beginning with

pardoning Libby and Arpaio, calling white nationalists fine people, agreeing to meet with the North Koreans, doing nothing in response when russian soldiers attacked US soldiers in Syria, appointing a foriegn agent to be his National Security Officer, and the list goes on and on
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Let us not forget (which, sadly, I did) screwing up and politicizing the recovery efforts in Puerto Rico.

And discussing classified documents and military strategy in the dining room of Mar-A-Lago, in full sight and sound of hundreds of citizens who did not have any clearance whatsoever.

And didn't the White House have to fire some dude for inappropriate activities, only to have him hired immediately by the campaign?

And.... :mrgreen:
 
rocket88 said:
One thing he's done wromg, but...you're not actually allowed to criticize him.

How about the tariffs. Those are backfiring.
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we better support getting China under control or else we're going to have real problems down the road. did you not see the post with article about the Chinese communist party starting to "influence" the foreign corporations to give up secret info the other day and run business behind the scenes?
 
Moderate Right said:
That's not really all that uncommon is it? Wasn't it Nancy Pelosi who famously said on Obamacare that we have to pass the bill to find out what's in it? I'm guessing that if she didn't know what was in it, Obama didn't either.
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I didn't like it when they did it either.

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Hypothetical said:
we better support getting China under control or else we're going to have real problems down the road. did you not see the post with article about the Chinese communist party starting to "influence" the foreign corporations to give up secret info the other day and run business behind the scenes?
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That's hardly new, but the reaction against the tariffs would point to it being a bad idea. Nobody wins a trade war.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
:lamo :lamo :lamo :lamo My viewpoints are centered right compared to some of the other liberals on this forum, but what we share is that we recognize that Trump is bad for the country. The corruption in his administration, his lies (i know you don't like to talk about them), his stupid twitter habit, his often wrong information when he isn't lying, his love of cable news over the job, the idiotic people he surrounds himself with. His conspiracy theories. His lack of empathy or care. His crappy attitude/lawsuits. His tough guy douchebag attitude. His relationships with even worse seedy/shady/greedy/paranoid sex freaks outside of the administration. How he sexualizes his daughter. His conman-like/selfish behavior, his poor business/deal making skills etc... I could go on and on and on about all that trump has done wrong and I do in my sigy, but you'll continue to bury your head in the sand. Being against this stuff isn't what I would consider "liberal."

Can you list the good things you think Trump has done. I listed two of them before.
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So let me hear you say that you want Pence president.
 
trouble13 said:
I didn't like it when they did it either.

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Both are great examples of one party rushing to fulfill their agenda before it can be derailed. Time is of the essence.
 
Moderate Right said:
He didn't repeal Obamacare.

Obamacare was rushed through, not thought out, and will have severe long term effects.

Infrastructure has not been done yet but you have no proof that it won't be. A president can't do everything in one year.

Voters knew Trump's character and style before they voted for him. Voters got what they wanted.

Liberals don't want a wall built because they're afraid it will work. Liberals don't care about spending billions.

I never said you lied about your lean. I'm moderate right and slightly conservative because I'm not a far right extremist. I don't watch Fox News and the like. I vote for a mix of Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. I voted for Obama in 2012. I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries or in the general. But, I will defend Trump from the resistance nonsense and that makes me look farther right than I am because I am far right from the far left.
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Trump did everything he could to repeal Obamacare. (He is crazy driven to undo anything that Obama accomplished) He was furious with the Congress who did not go along. What are the severe effects of Obamacare? That people actually have health insurance?

The one item that was an easy accomplishment when Trump took office was infrastructure. The democrats were fully on board with that, many Republicans also, and Trump claimed it was his goal. Instead he decided to build a wall, repeal Obamacare, insist on having a tax cut for his Christmas present, begin wars with all government agencies, and tell an average of 4 lies per day. What proof would I need to say infrastructure is not on his radar?

Correction about the voters got what they wanted....A large majority voted for other candidates...including 3 million more for Clinton. Most people who read knew he was a slime, but were convinced he would turn "presidential" It was unheard of before this character showed up that the man elected to the presidency would not at least TRY to live up to its honor.

Liberals don't want a wall built because it won't work, and it is a waste of money, and it is an affront to our neighboring ally who is not going to pay for it. Another Trumpian LIE. Liberals care about spending billions on programs that aid citizens, not parades for Presidential egos, and walls that satisfy MAGA's.
Most people here illegally have overstayed a legal visa. Maybe you should consider building walls around all the airports and harbors?

As far as lean, you introduced this thread with a statement that people on the left lie about their lean. I was clarifying for you that I do not. I'm actually just a bit left of moderate on just about anything but TRUMP...who is a national disgrace, and I do not intend to ever stop resisting. This "go with the flow attitude" you seem to advocate is gonna make you look bad in the end. Just My Opinion.
 
Moderate Right said:
.... Trump has done absolutely nothing wrong other than not being for your ideology.
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Wow.

Does this forum have a "favorite member quotes" thread?

This is the kind of statement which needs to be quoted for posterity.
 
Moderate Right said:
I'd like DP'rs on the left (that includes those of you who lie about your lean) to make a list of what Trump has done that is wrong or bad. You have to be specific, not generalizing.

You cannot include:

1. tweets

2. things Trump has said including calling names and vulgar language

3. any proven moral shortcomings prior to becoming president which means nothing connected to Karen McDougal or Stormy Daniels or Access Hollywood tapes, and unproven accusations against him.

4. Russian collusion because there is no evidence Trump has colluded with the Russians. There is also no evidence that he is doing Putin's bidding, other than opinions.

5. obstruction of justice because he hasn't been charged with obstruction of justice, let alone been found guilty

6. anything Jim Comey has said

7. anything you are unhappy about due solely to partisanship such as liberal policies being stopped or not done

8. anything you claim is a lie


Basically, the president is responsible for the economy and national security. Social programs don't count because they are pretty much all partisan.

Example: High turn over rate for his cabinet and other government positions.

Remember, you have to be specific and not generalizing.
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Well, if I am forced to tie my hand behind my back and not include his extraordinary crudeness and undignified lack of gravitas, here is the worst thing I can say about Donald Trump. And this does not include mistakes, missteps, or failures in judgment that any President is subject to. Donald Trump is a colossal hypocrite. I mean, if he publicly condemns something, it is pretty much a given he is going to commit that same action some time down the road. He golfs constantly, despite complaining about President Obama's constant outings to the golf course. He complained about the electoral college until it granted him victory. He attacked Hillary Clinton for her use of an illegal private email server for receipt of government emails, but then discussed national security matters on an unsecured Android phone at Mar-a-Lago last year. So that would be what he did wrong, from my personal perspective.

If you are going to sin, at least do not pretend to hold yourself to any kind of high moral standards. Better to be a Bill Clinton than a John Edwards. Of course, hypocrisy might be considered a "moral" shortcoming more than a political shortcoming, so what do I know?
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
Pence will never see a day as POTUS. He's neck deep in the affairs involved in the Russia probe.
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In other words, you are just a partisan rabid lefty who doesn't want any Republican as president. It has nothing to do with Trump.
 
JMR said:
Trump did everything he could to repeal Obamacare. (He is crazy driven to undo anything that Obama accomplished) He was furious with the Congress who did not go along. What are the severe effects of Obamacare? That people actually have health insurance?

The one item that was an easy accomplishment when Trump took office was infrastructure. The democrats were fully on board with that, many Republicans also, and Trump claimed it was his goal. Instead he decided to build a wall, repeal Obamacare, insist on having a tax cut for his Christmas present, begin wars with all government agencies, and tell an average of 4 lies per day. What proof would I need to say infrastructure is not on his radar?

Correction about the voters got what they wanted....A large majority voted for other candidates...including 3 million more for Clinton. Most people who read knew he was a slime, but were convinced he would turn "presidential" It was unheard of before this character showed up that the man elected to the presidency would not at least TRY to live up to its honor.

Liberals don't want a wall built because it won't work, and it is a waste of money, and it is an affront to our neighboring ally who is not going to pay for it. Another Trumpian LIE. Liberals care about spending billions on programs that aid citizens, not parades for Presidential egos, and walls that satisfy MAGA's.
Most people here illegally have overstayed a legal visa. Maybe you should consider building walls around all the airports and harbors?

As far as lean, you introduced this thread with a statement that people on the left lie about their lean. I was clarifying for you that I do not. I'm actually just a bit left of moderate on just about anything but TRUMP...who is a national disgrace, and I do not intend to ever stop resisting. This "go with the flow attitude" you seem to advocate is gonna make you look bad in the end. Just My Opinion.
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Trump did not repeal Obamacare. You have your facts mixed up.

No president can do everything in his first year of office. You have no idea that he isn't going to do anything on infrastructure.

Voters voted Trump president. That's why he's president.

Mexico does nothing to prevent illegals from crossing the border. In fact, it helps Mexico out to have illegals cross the border. So, who cares if it is an affront to Mexico? That's why we need a wall. Mexico won't stop any of it and Sanctuary cities won't stop any of it and now we have a sanctuary state.

I only said that lefties, including those who lie about their lean, should answer the OP. That only refers to lefties who lie about their lean. If you don't lie about it then it doesn't apply to you.
 
Amelia said:
Wow.

Does this forum have a "favorite member quotes" thread?

This is the kind of statement which needs to be quoted for posterity.
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I must have missed your post where you say what Trump has done wrong. Remember the rules laid out.
 
Moderate Right said:
In other words, you are just a partisan rabid lefty who doesn't want any Republican as president. It has nothing to do with Trump.
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Newp. Marxists like you can never seem to get facts straight.

This has everything to do with Pence being involved in the Russia probe.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Newp. Marxists like you can never seem to get facts straight.

This has everything to do with Pence being involved in the Russia probe.
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OK. So, since both Trump and Pence are tainted, which Republican do you want as president? Paul Ryan is currently second in line, how about him?
 
Moderate Right said:
OK. So, since both Trump and Pence are tainted, which Republican do you want as president? Paul Ryan is currently second in line, how about him?
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He won't be around. He's leaving after this term, remember? And he's a weak-willed, spineless lickspittle.
 
Moderate Right said:
I must have missed your post where you say what Trump has done wrong. Remember the rules laid out.
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LOL @ your contrived rules.

But you did turn this thread from nonsense into priceless with your declaration that Trump has done absolutely nothing wrong.

That was a thing of beauty.


Two thumbs up.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
He won't be around. He's leaving after this term, remember? And he's a weak-willed, spineless lickspittle.
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Dodging the question, are we? Who do you want as Republican president?
 
Amelia said:
LOL @ your contrived rules.

But you did turn this thread from nonsense into priceless with your declaration that Trump has done absolutely nothing wrong.

That was a thing of beauty.


Two thumbs up.
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In other words, Trump has done nothing wrong other than the conditions I laid out. You didn't even try.
 
Moderate Right said:
Dodging the question, are we? Who do you want as Republican president?
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That assumes that I want a Republican (or Democrat) POTUS. I want a competent, non-corrupt individual who's not a religious zealot or social conservative.

Why do you reject such a theoretical candidate?
 
u2smilemaga said:
LOVE THE DON ! he has the lefty in tears all the evil ones in fears. He is the wild card no one dare guess what he will do . His only flaw not having half of DC taken out and shot dead. I laugh the left want Don gone then they get hard hard hard right bible Pence. HE will have them taken out and shot
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Finally! Someone with the guts to put it out there!
I don't think the Constitution would actually allow us to take people out and shoot them but it would be gratifying to put together a short list, kind of like fantasy football.
Who do you think should be shot?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
That assumes that I want a Republican (or Democrat) POTUS. I want a competent, non-corrupt individual who's not a religious zealot or social conservative.

Why do you reject such a theoretical candidate?
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Just proving that Trump has nothing to do with your ire. You don't want any Republican as president so your hatred of Trump is nothing but rabid partisanship. You would treat Mother Theresa the same way if she were president.
 
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