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If Comey is such a liar..

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Which he isn't.

But, if he were such a big liar.

Why wouldn't he just say that not only does the pee tape exist, but, that he has seen it personally, and was deeply offended by it?

Instead you see a rational man, carefully weighing his words with a prescription to accuracy and the truth.

And I'm no big Comey fan, but, his transgressions were against HRC, not Trump.
 
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Winston said:
Which he isn't.

But, if he were such a big liar.

Why wouldn't he just say that not only does the pee tape exist, but, that he has seen it personally, and was deeply offended by it?

Instead you see a rational man, carefully weighing his words with a prescription to accuracy and the truth.

And I'm no big Comey fan, but, his transgressions were against HRC, not Trump.
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A solid point.
 
haymarket said:
A solid point.
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Right? the picture the right paints of Comey: a man hell bent on taking down Trump at all costs, lying his ass off to get the job done, would say he's seen the tape.
 
Winston said:
Right? the picture the right paints of Comey: a man hell bent on taking down Trump at all costs, lying his ass off to get the job done, would say he's seen the tape.
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While I think him saying he saw the tape would be a bridge too far, he could say that he has seen some information which indicates it might exist. It would achieve much the same thing.

I think come has been honest even if he threw the election to Trump with his stupid and self serving late October theatrics.
 
haymarket said:
While I think him saying he saw the tape would be a bridge too far, he could say that he has seen some information which indicates it might exist. It would achieve much the same thing.

I think come has been honest even if he threw the election to Trump with his stupid and self serving late October theatrics.
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The right is painting him as an unhinged, leaking, lying, etc. They're doing character assassination. At this point, I'm like fine, if that's what the right wants to believe, let's just say Comey is a liar and he should play the part then. Because if he's such a liar, he isn't doing much damage with his lies.
 
 
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It's just propaganda, I heard Fox talking about Comey. They're just criticizing for the sake of criticism.

But, the point is, if he was a liar, he would be telling some whoppers. What are his lies, anyway?

Why not tell some whoppers, Lyin' Comey? Eh?
 
Winston said:
Which he isn't.

But, if he were such a big liar.

Why wouldn't he just say that not only does the pee tape exist, but, that he has seen it personally, and was deeply offended by it?

Instead you see a rational man, carefully weighing his words with a prescription to accuracy and the truth.

And I'm no big Comey fan, but, his transgressions were against HRC, not Trump.
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His transgressions were/are against both and the entire American People.
 
code1211 said:
His transgressions were/are against both and the entire American People.
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Yeah, he kinda threw the election to Trump. I'd say he did a great disservice to the American people in that action.
 
Winston said:
Right? the picture the right paints of Comey: a man hell bent on taking down Trump at all costs, lying his ass off to get the job done, would say he's seen the tape.
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A man like that would have used FBI resources to CGI such a tape, then planted it where it could be found.
 
Mr Person said:
A man like that would have used FBI resources to CGI such a tape, then planted it where it could be found.
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yep, if Comey was really doing "secret coup" type stuff, he could do a lot better.
 
Winston said:
It's just propaganda, I heard Fox talking about Comey. They're just criticizing for the sake of criticism.

But, the point is, if he was a liar, he would be telling some whoppers. What are his lies, anyway?

Why not tell some whoppers, Lyin' Comey? Eh?
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Propaganda? From a liberal? Say it isn't so! Who would have thought?

Given Dershowitz's career and credentials, I'm inclined to take his word pretty seriously.

How many congressional testimony statements did Comey have to retract or amend? I thought that there were a significant number of times he had to do that.
 
Winston said:
Which he isn't.

But, if he were such a big liar.

Why wouldn't he just say that not only does the pee tape exist, but, that he has seen it personally, and was deeply offended by it?

Instead you see a rational man, carefully weighing his words with a prescription to accuracy and the truth.

And I'm no big Comey fan, but, his transgressions were against HRC, not Trump.
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Clearly you don't pay attention....the story is that the Russians have a pee tape to blackmail Trump with, which they have not used, so the FBI has had no opportunity to see it.
 
eohrnberger said:
Propaganda? From a liberal? Say it isn't so! Who would have thought?

Given Dershowitz's career and credentials, I'm inclined to take his word pretty seriously.

How many congressional testimony statements did Comey have to retract or amend? I thought that there were a significant number of times he had to do that.
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Fox brings on unlikely guests to do propaganda for them all the time.

And isn't retracting and amending testimonies a sign of honesty?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Clearly you don't pay attention....the story is that the Russians have a pee tape to blackmail Trump with, which they have not used, so the FBI has had no opportunity to see it.
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Right but, if Comey was a "lying to take down Trump", he would be out there confirming it exists.
 
Winston said:
Fox brings on unlikely guests to do propaganda for them all the time.
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Amazing that you want to dismiss someone's opinion who has such credentials as Dershowitz, in favor of a confirmation bias.

And isn't retracting and amending testimonies a sign of honesty?
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Might be. Might not be. I suppose it depends on why the inaccurate testimony in the first place.

Everyone is sure to cover the testimony before congress, yet when the retractions or amendments are made, they get not nearly the same coverage, leaving the inaccurate testimony in the public's view and forefront in their minds.

Would be better to have accurate testimony in the first place, but, yes, we are dealing with humans, and have to give them some leeway on faulty memory and such.
 
eohrnberger said:
Amazing that you want to dismiss someone's opinion who has such credentials as Dershowitz, in favor of a confirmation bias.



Might be. Might not be. I suppose it depends on why the inaccurate testimony in the first place.

Everyone is sure to cover the testimony before congress, yet when the retractions or amendments are made, they get not nearly the same coverage, leaving the inaccurate testimony in the public's view and forefront in their minds.

Would be better to have accurate testimony in the first place, but, yes, we are dealing with humans, and have to give them some leeway on faulty memory and such.
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I'll go back and listen to Mr. Dershowitz again but, the pundits slamming Comey on trivialities annoys me.
 
Winston said:
Right but, if Comey was a "lying to take down Trump", he would be out there confirming it exists.
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Not when everyone would know that he was lying.... the Russians are very good about keeping the American spooks out of the loop, no one would believe that the FBI was able to get a copy.
 
Winston said:
Which he isn't.

But, if he were such a big liar.

Why wouldn't he just say that not only does the pee tape exist, but, that he has seen it personally, and was deeply offended by it?

Instead you see a rational man, carefully weighing his words with a prescription to accuracy and the truth.

And I'm no big Comey fan, but, his transgressions were against HRC, not Trump.
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I dont think Comey is as much a liar as he is a partisan hack. His lies are more lies of omission--not telling Trump the dossier was funded by his political opponents and not Telling Trump his conversations with him were inappropriate. Instead he jotted everything down. I had an employer like that once. He would have work related discussions with you, then run to his office, jot down his version of what happened that would paint the employee in the worst possible light and paint him in the best possible light and put it in the employees file. Its a scummy practice.
 
Given a choice between a proven liar and a proven officer who studies and prosecutes lies....I believe the former.
 
Winston said:
Right but, if Comey was a "lying to take down Trump", he would be out there confirming it exists.
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I don't know where to start with this nonsense. If he claimed he saw the video then next question would be "how could you be the only person in the government to see it and show us how you ended up seeing it." Since he couldn't give a credible answer to those questions why would make such a statement?

Also show me all the GOPers saying the book is full of lies? Most of its just his opinions and thoughts on Trump. He's acting like a girlfriend you break up with then she writes a book slamming you. It's not the lies, it's the obvious attempt to make comey the victim with a heart of gold. That's what the right is upset about. Do you understand the difference?

If anything comey comes off like a dummy. He tells Trump about the dossier but fails to tell him it was put together by his political opponents?! Tell me how that makes any sense?
 
JoeTrumps said:
I don't know where to start with this nonsense. If he claimed he saw the video then next question would be "how could you be the only person in the government to see it and show us how you ended up seeing it." Since he couldn't give a credible answer to those questions why would make such a statement?

Also show me all the GOPers saying the book is full of lies? Most of its just his opinions and thoughts on Trump. He's acting like a girlfriend you break up with then she writes a book slamming you. It's not the lies, it's the obvious attempt to make comey the victim with a heart of gold. That's what the right is upset about. Do you understand the difference?

If anything comey comes off like a dummy.
He tells Trump about the dossier but fails to tell him it was put together by his political opponents?! Tell me how that makes any sense?
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Comey was fishing for a particular response from Trump.
 
JoeTrumps said:
I don't know where to start with this nonsense. If he claimed he saw the video then next question would be "how could you be the only person in the government to see it and show us how you ended up seeing it." Since he couldn't give a credible answer to those questions why would make such a statement?
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Because he's a liar, right?! Liars lie about things and get caught up in lies. If he had malicious intent to unseat Trump, as is alleged, he would be lying his ass off. But, he's not. He's telling the truth about your boy Trump.

Also show me all the GOPers saying the book is full of lies? Most of its just his opinions and thoughts on Trump. He's acting like a girlfriend you break up with then she writes a book slamming you. It's not the lies, it's the obvious attempt to make comey the victim with a heart of gold. That's what the right is upset about. Do you understand the difference?

If anything comey comes off like a dummy. He tells Trump about the dossier but fails to tell him it was put together by his political opponents?! Tell me how that makes any sense?
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Isn't there an RNC website called Lyin' Comey?

So, my answer is the RNC. :lol:
 
Winston said:
Which he isn't.

But, if he were such a big liar.

Why wouldn't he just say that not only does the pee tape exist, but, that he has seen it personally, and was deeply offended by it?

Instead you see a rational man, carefully weighing his words with a prescription to accuracy and the truth.

And I'm no big Comey fan, but, his transgressions were against HRC, not Trump.
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LOL. Time to refill the kool-aid jug. You guys have emptied it yet again.
 
Winston said:
Yeah, he kinda threw the election to Trump. I'd say he did a great disservice to the American people in that action.
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So, you are saying that he is a dishonest slime. Please make up your mind.
 
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