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China vows to retaliate after Trump threatens new tariffs on $100 billion in goods

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China vows to retaliate after Trump threatens new tariffs on $100 billion in goods in rapidly escalating trade battle

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April 6, 2018

President Donald Trump on Thursday night threatened another escalation in a rapidly escalating trade battle with China, which then vowed to retaliate. The White House said in a statement that Trump was considering new tariffs on $100 billion worth of annual imports from China. That follows the Office of the US Trade Representative's announcement earlier this week of plans for tariffs on $50 billion in Chinese products. "In light of China's unfair retaliation, I have instructed the USTR to consider whether $100 billion of additional tariffs would be appropriate under section 301 and, if so, to identify the products under which to impose such tariffs," the White House statement said. On Tuesday, the US trade representative announced a list of roughly 1,300 Chinese goods worth $50 billion annually that would be subject to new US tariffs, which function as taxes on imports. The US also previously announced tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum.

China responded to this week's plans by announcing tariffs on $50 billion worth of American goods, including soybeans, the largest agricultural export to China from the US. The tariffs will have consequences for a wide swath of American consumers and businesses. The USTR has said the measures are retaliation for Chinese intellectual property theft. But they could also have serious consequences for businesses that use the goods from China — as well as consumers who buy those goods.Responding on Friday, China's ministry of commerce said it would immediately retaliate if the US imposed the sanctions. It said the country would not rule out any options.

US pork/soybean farmers are already reeling in pain due to market price drops. What will be the next sector of the US economy Trump can put the hurt on?
 
I bet Walmart is pissing their pants right now and every family owned mom and pops store is celebrating. (if there is even any left)
 
China vows to retaliate after Trump threatens new tariffs on $100 billion in goods in rapidly escalating trade battle

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US pork/soybean farmers are already reeling in pain due to market price drops. What will be the next sector of the US economy Trump can put the hurt on?

Trump is attempting to solve internal problems with external solutions. Not much hope for that. One of these days he'll have an epiphany and decide the solution is a Big War. Big profits. Big banks. Big because billionaires are Trump's idea of the backbone of the US economy. Actually, they are the parasites.
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I'm no economist, so can't predict how this will go, but it does seem like China has more to lose than we do in this, though U.S. consumers will likely end up eating the difference.

Question if anyone knows:

What does China use our soybeans for, primarily? Are they feeding their people, or using them to produce products that are then exported?

If these steps are directly contributing to privation of the Chinese people, then that's a moral angle we need to consider, though of course it does increase the pressure on the Chinese government to back down.

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NVM, Googled it. Apparently a non-issue, and the soybeans are just the handiest commodity for them to deal in.
 
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I'm no economist, so can't predict how this will go, but it does seem like China has more to lose than we do in this, though U.S. consumers will likely end up eating the difference.

Question if anyone knows:

What does China use our soybeans for, primarily? Are they feeding their people, or using them to produce products that are then exported?

If these steps are directly contributing to privation of the Chinese people, then that's a moral angle we need to consider, though of course it does increase the pressure on the Chinese government to back down.

Actually China has already begun the process of sourcing its soybeans from countries that have no IP issues to protect which is why WTO is too large an organization to use to try to address the actual issues we have with China. US producers are not going to just lose some business from their products being higher priced in China. They are going to lose all the business they have in China.

Trump hates multilateral trade agreements. But bilateral agreements don't solve or even begin to approach IP issues. Having left TPP which is multilateral, trump now thinks he can go to WTO which is too large. Never should have left TPP if he really intended trying to resolve the real issues that we have with China trade. He is making such a fool of himself that a world of industrial nations that should have wholly supported our efforts with regard to China are swinging their support over to China! You have try really hard to have screwed up this badly.
 
Just remember: Trade wars are good and easy to win. Why? because our resident "Stable Genius" says so...........:)

And yes, tRump is the textbook definition of a parasite.
 
As pointed out on another thread, trade wars with China is not new.
 
Actually China has already begun the process of sourcing its soybeans from countries that have no IP issues to protect which is why WTO is too large an organization to use to try to address the actual issues we have with China. US producers are not going to just lose some business from their products being higher priced in China. They are going to lose all the business they have in China.

Trump hates multilateral trade agreements. But bilateral agreements don't solve or even begin to approach IP issues. Having left TPP which is multilateral, trump now thinks he can go to WTO which is too large. Never should have left TPP if he really intended trying to resolve the real issues that we have with China trade. He is making such a fool of himself that a world of industrial nations that should have wholly supported our efforts with regard to China are swinging their support over to China! You have try really hard to have screwed up this badly.

Interesting. Don't now much about the WTO, but I've always gotten the impression the large international bodies lack much in the ability to enforce their rules. Seems like they mostly they end up being cabals of wealthy nations protecting their positions at the expense of poor nations.

I don't think our IP issues have a solution until a global authority appears with the clout to enforce IP law. I don't think many would enjoy the other effects of that, though.
 
Interesting. Don't now much about the WTO, but I've always gotten the impression the large international bodies lack much in the ability to enforce their rules. Seems like they mostly they end up being cabals of wealthy nations protecting their positions at the expense of poor nations.

I don't think our IP issues have a solution until a global authority appears with the clout to enforce IP law. I don't think many would enjoy the other effects of that, though.

WTO (world trade organization) is certainly large. But I would argue too large as there are many WTO members that do not have a dog in the IP fight.

That said, it makes little sense, regardless of what organization Trump might choose to argue his points, to scream tariffs tariffs tariffs when the real issue is IP IP IP.
 
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